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With all due respect to you, people who are under the Law of Moses, are slaves to sin and death. That is why there are washing ceremonies and sacrifice offerings for one to become clean again for the day, practiced by the Jews, even during JESUS's time.
Christian born of water and SPIRIT are not slaves to sin and death anymore but have been liberated from sin and death by CHRIST's coming, teachings and sacrifice on the cross. It is just that one can fall back again to sin because their mind and work are according to the things of the flesh and is death. We are all called for our mind and works are according to the things of the SPIRIT and is life. (Romans chapter 8 and Galatians chapter 5)
Even though there is forgiveness for sins in the New Testament but we are called to mature and sin no more, for GOD hates sin and so we must hate it too and forsake it. Or find help by seeking CHRIST, who is able to sympathize and help us in all our weaknesses and further more in the meantime be gloomy and sad..
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.
Christian born of water and SPIRIT are not slaves to sin and death anymore but have been liberated from sin and death by CHRIST's coming, teachings and sacrifice on the cross. It is just that one can fall back again to sin because their mind and work are according to the things of the flesh and is death. We are all called for our mind and works are according to the things of the SPIRIT and is life. (Romans chapter 8 and Galatians chapter 5)
Even though there is forgiveness for sins in the New Testament but we are called to mature and sin no more, for GOD hates sin and so we must hate it too and forsake it. Or find help by seeking CHRIST, who is able to sympathize and help us in all our weaknesses and further more in the meantime be gloomy and sad..
May GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless you with HIS kindness and peace.
and on and on this discussion goes...
Romans 6:2-7 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Romans 6:2-7 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?
Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
For he that is dead is freed from sin.
Are you saying that once we have salvation, and through salvation we crucify sin one day, forever after we need never think of what sin is ever again? What happens if that saved person, wiped clean from sin and forgiven, the next week weakens and falls into sin? Does he never again need to be cleansed, but his salvation made him perfect?
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'Sin no more' is not the gospel of Christ. The gospel of Christ is Jesus Christ and him crucified and that gospel says that your 'sins have been judged and put away' and do you believe that? Do any of you who side with the law actually know and believe what Christ did to sin, the sin of the whole world? HE CRUCIFIED IT AND PUT IT AWAY FOREVER. If you do not believe that then you have another gospel that you are trusting in that has nothing to do with Christ or Yeshua.
B
Let me be a little more specific and very practical. If I was to engage in sinful activity today (and God forbid), that activity of sin was already judged by Christ through death on the cross and was put away before I even committed the very activity of it. I can't be judged for that sin because Christ was already judged for it. That is the finished work of the cross and no one can be judged for the same sin twice for that would be double jeopardy. Christ is our advocate and he will not let us be judged for the sin He was already been judged for.
What happens if I sin, the Holy Spirit convicts me and I have two options. I can confess my sin and God will be faithful and just to forgive me (not judge me) or I can continue in my sin and God will chasten me and continue to do so until I respond to Him. I may reap all kinds of corruption in my flesh and be very unhappy because I am not receiving grace, but when I humble my self through being chastened of the Lord and turn to Him, God will give me grace and restore me back to fellowship with Him. Now that is specific and it is what happens to the believer who sins and it has nothing to do with whether I kept the law or not, it was the sin and lust of the flesh in me that I gave place to. God will make grace abound toward us when we sin but we have to humble ourselves, confess our sin and receive grace to be restored. Oh how wonderful is the mystery of godliness we have through our Lord Jesus Christ, whose glory excels and exceeds that of Moses and the law.
What happens if I sin, the Holy Spirit convicts me and I have two options. I can confess my sin and God will be faithful and just to forgive me (not judge me) or I can continue in my sin and God will chasten me and continue to do so until I respond to Him. I may reap all kinds of corruption in my flesh and be very unhappy because I am not receiving grace, but when I humble my self through being chastened of the Lord and turn to Him, God will give me grace and restore me back to fellowship with Him. Now that is specific and it is what happens to the believer who sins and it has nothing to do with whether I kept the law or not, it was the sin and lust of the flesh in me that I gave place to. God will make grace abound toward us when we sin but we have to humble ourselves, confess our sin and receive grace to be restored. Oh how wonderful is the mystery of godliness we have through our Lord Jesus Christ, whose glory excels and exceeds that of Moses and the law.
The problem with these three words of Jesus comes from our English translations. You loose a lot of the meanings of words when you translate them from the original language to English. Here is where the confusion comes in, you have to go to the original language to get the full meaning of these words. The words, "Sin no more" when you go to the original language means "Don't sin anymore". Do you see the big difference? I can see how the confusion can come into God's people when they don't go to the original language. 
"Sin no more" uses the imperative of the infinitive to sin, while "don't sin anymore" employs the emphatic infinitive to do, but still in the imperative form. Grammatically, I do not sense a difference. Actually, in the second form, utilizing the emphatic, it seems to stress more to sin no more.
I posted these three words aiming to see thoughts and meditations on them, and also to demonstrate just how much we all need the grace of our Maker in order to make it in the Way, the Truth and the Light Who is Life.
I posted these three words aiming to see thoughts and meditations on them, and also to demonstrate just how much we all need the grace of our Maker in order to make it in the Way, the Truth and the Light Who is Life.
The problem with these three words of Jesus comes from our English translations. You loose a lot of the meanings of words when you translate them from the original language to English. Here is where the confusion comes in, you have to go to the original language to get the full meaning of these words. The words, "Sin no more" when you go to the original language means "Don't sin anymore". Do you see the big difference? I can see how the confusion can come into God's people when they don't go to the original language.
It was a wonderful thread. When CC'er only look at scripture as something to argue against, adding such as their personal dislike of hearing any scripture giving them instructions in living, they use blessed holy words to express their thoughts against scripture. Or it gives them opportunity to say that one scripture opposes another, and scripture isn't from one true God with one voice, but many. Scripture isn't used to grow in the Lord, but to find reasons some scripture should not be listened to.
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IT IS A WONDERFUL THREAD!
We know that The Lord Jesus Christ Himself
prays that the peace of God rules in our hearts
and that Spiritual gifts and blessings abound in
our lives.
May we overcome every aspect of the spirit of error,
always walking the Godly path, always thinking in
goodness and purity.
as we say of some horses, 'they have a kind eye',
may the Light of Kindness shine through our eyes
and become brighter and brighter, that it may
illuminate our Spiritual Journey and Destiny
with God Almighty, blessed forever in the realm of Eternity.
We know that The Lord Jesus Christ Himself
prays that the peace of God rules in our hearts
and that Spiritual gifts and blessings abound in
our lives.
May we overcome every aspect of the spirit of error,
always walking the Godly path, always thinking in
goodness and purity.
as we say of some horses, 'they have a kind eye',
may the Light of Kindness shine through our eyes
and become brighter and brighter, that it may
illuminate our Spiritual Journey and Destiny
with God Almighty, blessed forever in the realm of Eternity.
B
The present active imperative of 'sin no more' is the action that she is to take and initiate through the grace of not being condemned, having that sin removed and no more part of her life. She can go in the power of grace without the condemnation of the law. There is no discourse here that she repented or had any remorse for her sin but only an acknowledgment that all of her accusers, who would have condemned her, were gone. That is the beauty of what Christ did right in the temple and it was very intimate being only the woman and the Lord alone. Jesus met her in her sin and had a chance to focus on this woman who had been in bondage to her sin and found only condemnation through the law.
She had no power to overcome her sin and became reckless, but when she was brought to the Lord, she met the master and the first one who had never condemned her for her sin of adultery. Those who lived by the law of Moses condemned her plenty and she probably had given up as a woman having no power over her sin, but for Jesus' precious words. 'neither do I condemn you'. These were words from one who was born under the law but who did not come to condemn. With that we can hear Him say to the woman who He did not condemn, 'go and sin no more', present, active, imperative. It was imperative that she immediately take the grace given to her of the Lord and incorporate that in her life and be free from sinning any more in that area she was accused.
She had no power to overcome her sin and became reckless, but when she was brought to the Lord, she met the master and the first one who had never condemned her for her sin of adultery. Those who lived by the law of Moses condemned her plenty and she probably had given up as a woman having no power over her sin, but for Jesus' precious words. 'neither do I condemn you'. These were words from one who was born under the law but who did not come to condemn. With that we can hear Him say to the woman who He did not condemn, 'go and sin no more', present, active, imperative. It was imperative that she immediately take the grace given to her of the Lord and incorporate that in her life and be free from sinning any more in that area she was accused.
Now you follow me to "improve" upon my grammar? What is wrong with you? The two examples cited are both imperative, that is commands; one using the emphatic, for what? For emphasis. Why do you always have something weird to detract from the meaning of the posts of others? I realize my years of educational formation are a ways behind me, but what I do know about grammar is accurate on this point. I was on the dean's list in college, and my education deals with grammar and linguistics. That and $5 will not get you a cup of mocha java extra cream cappuccino at a Starbuck's, but it is true. Find someone else to hound.
I use transliterations from the Hebrew by preference, and I never use Hebrew only. When I have shared Hebrew word meanings, it has only been when the question arose, or it formed part of the post.
As for "where does it say," I posted in English. Do you understand the difference? I did not post in Hebrew or Greek.
As for "where does it say," I posted in English. Do you understand the difference? I did not post in Hebrew or Greek.
These comparatives have included "sin no more" and "do not sin anymore" translated to the same meaning from the same sources.
Now there are several version with several languages for all sticklers, hecklers, and hair splitters. Enjoy.
Joh 8:11
(ASV)
And she said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn thee: go thy way; from henceforth sin no more.]
(CEV)
"No sir," the woman answered. Then Jesus told her, "I am not going to accuse you either. You may go now, but don't sin anymore."
(Darby)
And she said, No one, sir. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(DRB)
Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more.
(FDB)
Et elle dit: Nul, Seigneur. Et Jésus lui dit: Moi non plus, je ne te condamne pas; va, -dorénavant ne pèche plus.
(FLS)
Elle répondit: Non, Seigneur. Et Jésus lui dit: Je ne te condamne pas non plus: va, et ne pèche plus.
(HNT)
ותאמר לא אחד אדני ויאמר לכן גם־אני לא ארשיעך לכי לדרכך ואל תחטאי עוד׃
(INR)
Ella rispose: "Nessuno, Signore". E Gesù le disse: "Neppure io ti condanno; va' e non peccare più".]
(IRL)
Ed ella rispose: Nessuno, Signore. E Gesù le disse: Neppure io ti condanno; va' e non peccar più.
(ISV)
"No one, sir," she replied. Then Jesus said, "I don't condemn you, either. Go home, and from now on do not sin any more."
(KJV)
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(KJV+)
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[SUP](ROB)
Iar ea a zis: Nici unul, Doamne. Şi Iisus i-a zis: Nu te osândesc nici Eu. Mergi; de acum să nu mai păcătuieşti.
(SSE)
Y ella dijo: Señor, ninguno. Entonces Jesús le dijo: Ni yo te condeno; vete, y no peques más.
(Vulgate)
quae dixit nemo Domine dixit autem Iesus nec ego te condemnabo vade et amplius iam noli peccare
(Webster)
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(WNT)
"No one, Sir," she replied. "And *I* do not condemn you either," said Jesus; "go, and from this time do not sin any more."
[/SUP]
Now there are several version with several languages for all sticklers, hecklers, and hair splitters. Enjoy.
Joh 8:11
(ASV)
And she said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn thee: go thy way; from henceforth sin no more.]
(CEV)
"No sir," the woman answered. Then Jesus told her, "I am not going to accuse you either. You may go now, but don't sin anymore."
(Darby)
And she said, No one, sir. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(DRB)
Who said: No man, Lord. And Jesus said: Neither will I condemn thee. Go, and now sin no more.
(FDB)
Et elle dit: Nul, Seigneur. Et Jésus lui dit: Moi non plus, je ne te condamne pas; va, -dorénavant ne pèche plus.
(FLS)
Elle répondit: Non, Seigneur. Et Jésus lui dit: Je ne te condamne pas non plus: va, et ne pèche plus.
(HNT)
ותאמר לא אחד אדני ויאמר לכן גם־אני לא ארשיעך לכי לדרכך ואל תחטאי עוד׃
(INR)
Ella rispose: "Nessuno, Signore". E Gesù le disse: "Neppure io ti condanno; va' e non peccare più".]
(IRL)
Ed ella rispose: Nessuno, Signore. E Gesù le disse: Neppure io ti condanno; va' e non peccar più.
(ISV)
"No one, sir," she replied. Then Jesus said, "I don't condemn you, either. Go home, and from now on do not sin any more."
(KJV)
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(KJV+)
[SUP](G1161) SheG3588 said,G2036 No man,G3762 Lord.G2962 AndG1161 JesusG2424 saidG2036 unto her,G846 NeitherG3761 do IG1473 condemnG2632 thee:G4571 go,G4198 andG2532 sinG264 no more.G3371[/SUP]
[SUP](ROB)
Iar ea a zis: Nici unul, Doamne. Şi Iisus i-a zis: Nu te osândesc nici Eu. Mergi; de acum să nu mai păcătuieşti.
(SSE)
Y ella dijo: Señor, ninguno. Entonces Jesús le dijo: Ni yo te condeno; vete, y no peques más.
(Vulgate)
quae dixit nemo Domine dixit autem Iesus nec ego te condemnabo vade et amplius iam noli peccare
(Webster)
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.
(WNT)
"No one, Sir," she replied. "And *I* do not condemn you either," said Jesus; "go, and from this time do not sin any more."
[/SUP]
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