The new covenant - fulfilled through the Church

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check out my thread about how Christians should oppose Israel and how Israel of today is doing horrible things in the site of God -- we as Christians have been commissioned to go out and make disciples of men, not to live in fear and self preservation like so many Christians do who support Israel. http://christianchat.com/christian-news-forum/96093-israel-synagogue-satan.html

In this thread I confronted a lot of closed minded Christians who totally missed the point of the gospel.

2000 years ago, Jews were expecting God to send a messiah and restore Israel with military might. It didn't happen, instead God sent Jesus, a suffering servant who showed us that God's true plan was not to glorify Israel, but rather to be reconciled with all nations and all people.

Because we as Christians die to our own selfish desires, we must not let our selfish fears and egos get in the way.

Today, some Christians act like God only cares about Israel and that Israel must be protected under all costs.

But as the bible says, Christians are God's chosen people. The new covenant is with the church and the old covenant with Israel is gone.

We must stand up to the tyranny of Jewish and Christian Zionism, for it shows hatred in everything it does.

Do we trust that God will fulfill his word? Do we trust that he will keep his promises in his own way?

God has commanded us to fight against injustice, not protecting Israel

Protecting Israel is showing God how little faith we have in his ability to keep his promises and protecting Israel is spitting on justice.

In my next few posts I will show how the promises to Israel now belong to the church

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

Hebrews 8:7-13 New International Version (NIV)[SUP]7 [/SUP]For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. [SUP]8 [/SUP]But God found fault with the people and said[SUP][a][/SUP]:
“The days are coming, declares the Lord,
when I will make a new covenant
with the people of Israel
and with the people of Judah.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]It will not be like the covenant
I made with their ancestors
when I took them by the hand
to lead them out of Egypt,
because they did not remain faithful to my covenant,
and I turned away from them,
declares the Lord.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]This is the covenant I will establish with the people of Israel
after that time, declares the Lord.
I will put my laws in their minds
and write them on their hearts.
I will be their God,
and they will be my people.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will forgive their wickedness
and will remember their sins no more.”[SUP][b][/SUP]

[SUP]13 [/SUP]By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.



It is clear that God abolished the old covenant and Jesus declared the new covenant was here when he said


Luke 22:20
In the same way, after the supper he took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which is poured out for you.


Jesus was saying this during the Passover supper. The jews normally killed a Passover lamb to atone for their sins and they drank a cup of wine that represented the blood of the lamb. This was the cup of atonement, which represented their freedom from Egypt and sin.

Jesus was making a declaration that he was the final Passover lamb and that when his church from this point on ate from the Passover bread and drank the cup of atonement, they were symbolically celebrating the Passover in which Jesus was their Passover lamb, their Passover bread and their Passover wine or blood.

Jesus was replacing the old covenant with the new.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

And the new covenant is better because Jesus is the high priest who intercedes on our behalf in heaven


Hebrews 8 New International Version (NIV)[h=3]The High Priest of a New Covenant[/h]8 Now the main point of what we are saying is this: We do have such a high priest, who sat down at the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in heaven, [SUP]2 [/SUP]and who serves in the sanctuary, the true tabernacle set up by the Lord, not by a mere human being.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Every high priest is appointed to offer both gifts and sacrifices, and so it was necessary for this one also to have something to offer. [SUP]4 [/SUP]If he were on earth, he would not be a priest, for there are already priests who offer the gifts prescribed by the law. [SUP]5 [/SUP]They serve at a sanctuary that is a copy and shadow of what is in heaven. This is why Moses was warned when he was about to build the tabernacle: “See to it that you make everything according to the pattern shown you on the mountain.”[SUP][a][/SUP] [SUP]6 [/SUP]But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another.

 

[RedTent]

To say God cancelled a covenant cannot be. Do you know what a covenant is? It is a legal document between two parties and it stands forever. You cannot find a scripture where God is telling us He cancelled this legal document. You have it mixed up with a testimony. When a new one is given, that is the one in effect. Scripture says this is a covenant not a testament. Man has divided scripture into two "testaments", God didn't. The proper name in keeping with scripture would be Original Covenant, and Renewed Covenant.

Your entire premise of scripture is based on the idea that God cannot be trusted to keep His word. Also, to follow your human reasoning, we would have to get rid of the book of Revelation.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

And now because of our freedom in Christ and by the grace of God, we have freedom from the law. Instead of trying to follow the law and fail, the law is written on our hearts and we follow God joyously.

Galatians 5 New International Version (NIV)[h=3]Freedom in Christ[/h]5 It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]Mark my words! I, Paul, tell you that if you let yourselves be circumcised, Christ will be of no value to you at all. [SUP]3 [/SUP]Again I declare to every man who lets himself be circumcised that he is obligated to obey the whole law. [SUP]4 [/SUP]You who are trying to be justified by the law have been alienated from Christ; you have fallen away from grace. [SUP]5 [/SUP]For through the Spirit we eagerly await by faith the righteousness for which we hope. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision has any value. The only thing that counts is faith expressing itself through love.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]You were running a good race. Who cut in on you to keep you from obeying the truth? [SUP]8 [/SUP]That kind of persuasion does not come from the one who calls you. [SUP]9 [/SUP]“A little yeast works through the whole batch of dough.” [SUP]10 [/SUP]I am confident in the Lord that you will take no other view. The one who is throwing you into confusion, whoever that may be, will have to pay the penalty. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. [SUP]12 [/SUP]As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!
[h=3]Life by the Spirit[/h][SUP]13 [/SUP]You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh[SUP][a][/SUP]; rather, serve one another humbly in love. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]15 [/SUP]If you bite and devour each other, watch out or you will be destroyed by each other.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For the flesh desires what is contrary to the Spirit, and the Spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with each other, so that you are not to do whatever[SUP][c][/SUP] you want. [SUP]18 [/SUP]But if you are led by the Spirit, you are not under the law.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery; [SUP]20 [/SUP]idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions [SUP]21 [/SUP]and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, [SUP]23 [/SUP]gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. [SUP]24 [/SUP]Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. [SUP]26 [/SUP]Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

To say God cancelled a covenant cannot be. Do you know what a covenant is? It is a legal document between two parties and it stands forever. You cannot find a scripture where God is telling us He cancelled this legal document. You have it mixed up with a testimony. When a new one is given, that is the one in effect. Scripture says this is a covenant not a testament. Man has divided scripture into two "testaments", God didn't. The proper name in keeping with scripture would be Original Covenant, and Renewed Covenant.

Your entire premise of scripture is based on the idea that God cannot be trusted to keep His word. Also, to follow your human reasoning, we would have to get rid of the book of Revelation.

I don't follow your reasoning about getting rid of Revelations

God did not make the first covenant obsolete (heb 8:13) until the Jews broke their side of the covenant. A covenant requires both parties to keep their side. But once Israel broke their side, and after hundreds of attempts to call Israel back, Israel broke their side of the covenant.

So his reputation is intact

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

Galatians 3 New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]7[/SUP]Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. [SUP]8 [/SUP]Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[SUP][d][/SUP] [SUP]9 [/SUP]So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[SUP][e][/SUP] [SUP]11 [/SUP]Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[SUP][f][/SUP] [SUP]12 [/SUP]The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[SUP][g][/SUP] [SUP]13 [/SUP]Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[SUP][h][/SUP] [SUP]14 [/SUP]He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

 

[ChosenbyHim]

The New Covenant is not for the Church. The New Covenant (Jer. 31:31; Heb. 8:7-13) is for the House of Israel and the House of Judah.

The Church is not the House of Israel. And the Church is certainly not the House of Judah.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

[h=3]The Law and the Promise[/h][SUP]15 [/SUP]Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. [SUP]16 [/SUP]The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[SUP][i][/SUP] meaning one person, who is Christ. [SUP]17 [/SUP]What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. [SUP]20 [/SUP]A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. [SUP]22 [/SUP]But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.
[h=3]Children of God[/h][SUP]23 [/SUP]Before the coming of this faith,[SUP][j][/SUP] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. [SUP]24 [/SUP]So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. [SUP]25 [/SUP]Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, [SUP]27 [/SUP]for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

4 What I am saying is that as long as an heir is underage, he is no different from a slave, although he owns the whole estate. [SUP]2 [/SUP]The heir is subject to guardians and trustees until the time set by his father. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So also, when we were underage, we were in slavery under the elemental spiritual forces[SUP][a][/SUP] of the world. [SUP]4[/SUP]But when the set time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under the law, [SUP]5 [/SUP]to redeem those under the law, that we might receive adoption to sonship.[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]6 [/SUP]Because you are his sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba,[SUP][c][/SUP] Father.” [SUP]7 [/SUP]So you are no longer a slave, but God’s child; and since you are his child, God has made you also an heir.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

The New Covenant is not for the Church. The New Covenant (Jer. 31:31; Heb. 8:7-13) is for the House of Israel and the House of Judah.

The Church is not the House of Israel. And the Church is certainly not the House of Judah.

are you even reading what I am saying? Do you have eyes but cannot see?

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

There are 3 types of laws in the Old Testament (its called the old testament for a reason

1.) Ceremonial law, pertaining to cleanliness before coming before God
2.) Civil law pertaining to living in ancient Israel
3.) Moral law

As for 1.) Ceremonial law, itno longer needs to be practiced because the temple is gone and Jesus is the final sacrifice and so we can come before God anytime, through the person of Jesus. We appear before God clean and pure, even though we are sinful, for Jesus wipes away our sins before God.

2.) Civil law no longer applies to us or anyone, because Israel was sent into exile and we need to live by the laws of our own land

And 3.) Moral law, well Jesus raised the bar on this. We are no longer able to divorce our spouses for stupid reasons, but only infidelity. We are no longer allowed to harbor hatred in our hearts, for it is like murder. We are not allowed to look at women lustfully, for it is like committing adultery. We are no longer allowed to stone people for certain offenses, rather we must learn to live with all people and try to love them, working to reconcile them with Christ, for we are no better than them since we too are sinners.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

In acts 2, followers of Christ were considered converts to Judaism.


Acts 2 New International Version (NIV)[h=3]The Holy Spirit Comes at Pentecost[/h]2 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. [SUP]3 [/SUP]They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. [SUP]4 [/SUP]All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[SUP][a][/SUP] as the Spirit enabled them.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. [SUP]6 [/SUP]When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? [SUP]8 [/SUP]Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? [SUP]9 [/SUP]Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia,[SUP][b][/SUP] [SUP]10 [/SUP]Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome [SUP]11 [/SUP](both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” [SUP]12 [/SUP]Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
[SUP]13 [/SUP]Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

Jews who rejected christ persecuted the Jews who followed Christ:

Acts 6

Stephen Seized

[SUP]8 [/SUP]Now Stephen, a man full of God’s grace and power, performed great wonders and signs among the people. [SUP]9 [/SUP]Opposition arose, however, from members of the Synagogue of the Freedmen (as it was called)—Jews of Cyrene and Alexandria as well as the provinces of Cilicia and Asia—who began to argue with Stephen. [SUP]10 [/SUP]But they could not stand up against the wisdom the Spirit gave him as he spoke.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]Then they secretly persuaded some men to say, “We have heard Stephen speak blasphemous words against Moses and against God.”
[SUP]12 [/SUP]So they stirred up the people and the elders and the teachers of the law. They seized Stephen and brought him before the Sanhedrin. [SUP]13 [/SUP]They produced false witnesses, who testified, “This fellow never stops speaking against this holy place and against the law. [SUP]14 [/SUP]For we have heard him say that this Jesus of Nazareth will destroy this place and change the customs Moses handed down to us.”
[SUP]15 [/SUP]All who were sitting in the Sanhedrin looked intently at Stephen, and they saw that his face was like the face of an angel.



but they stoned him

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

God always wanted the Jews to be a light to the world, but the Jews tried to hoard God for themselves.

However, the Jews were finally a light to the gentiles when they started the church

Isaiah 42

[SUP] [/SUP]This is what God the Lord says—
the Creator of the heavens, who stretches them out,
who spreads out the earth with all that springs from it,
who gives breath to its people,
and life to those who walk on it:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]“I, the Lord, have called you in righteousness;
I will take hold of your hand.
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people
and a light for the Gentiles,
[SUP]7 [/SUP]to open eyes that are blind,
to free captives from prison
and to release from the dungeon those who sit in darkness.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

Isaiah 49 New International Version (NIV)[h=3]The Servant of the Lord[/h]49 Listen to me, you islands;
hear this, you distant nations:
Before I was born the Lord called me;
from my mother’s womb he has spoken my name.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]He made my mouth like a sharpened sword,
in the shadow of his hand he hid me;
he made me into a polished arrow
and concealed me in his quiver.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]He said to me, “You are my servant,
Israel, in whom I will display my splendor.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But I said, “I have labored in vain;
I have spent my strength for nothing at all.
Yet what is due me is in the Lord’s hand,
and my reward is with my God.”

[SUP]5 [/SUP]And now the Lord says—
he who formed me in the womb to be his servant
to bring Jacob back to him
and gather Israel to himself,
for I am[SUP][a][/SUP] honored in the eyes of the Lord
and my God has been my strength—
[SUP]6 [/SUP]he says:
“It is too small a thing for you to be my servant
to restore the tribes of Jacob
and bring back those of Israel I have kept.
I will also make you a light for the Gentiles,
that my salvation may reach to the ends of the earth.”

[SUP]7 [/SUP]This is what the Lord says—
the Redeemer and Holy One of Israel—
to him who was despised and abhorred by the nation,
to the servant of rulers:
“Kings will see you and stand up,
princes will see and bow down,
because of the Lord, who is faithful,
the Holy One of Israel, who has chosen you.”

[h=3]Restoration of Israel[/h][SUP]8 [/SUP]This is what the Lord says:
“In the time of my favor I will answer you,
and in the day of salvation I will help you;
I will keep you and will make you
to be a covenant for the people,
to restore the land
and to reassign its desolate inheritances,
[SUP]9 [/SUP]to say to the captives, ‘Come out,’
and to those in darkness, ‘Be free!’

“They will feed beside the roads
and find pasture on every barren hill.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]They will neither hunger nor thirst,
nor will the desert heat or the sun beat down on them.
He who has compassion on them will guide them
and lead them beside springs of water.
[SUP]11 [/SUP]I will turn all my mountains into roads,
and my highways will be raised up.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]See, they will come from afar—
some from the north, some from the west,
some from the region of Aswan.[SUP][b][/SUP]”

[SUP]13 [/SUP]Shout for joy, you heavens;
rejoice, you earth;
burst into song, you mountains!
For the Lord comforts his people
and will have compassion on his afflicted ones.

[SUP]14 [/SUP]But Zion said, “The Lord has forsaken me,
the Lord has forgotten me.”

[SUP]15 [/SUP]“Can a mother forget the baby at her breast
and have no compassion on the child she has borne?
Though she may forget,
I will not forget you!
[SUP]16 [/SUP]See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands;
your walls are ever before me.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Your children hasten back,
and those who laid you waste depart from you.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Lift up your eyes and look around;
all your children gather and come to you.
As surely as I live,” declares the Lord,
“you will wear them all as ornaments;
you will put them on, like a bride.

[SUP]19 [/SUP]“Though you were ruined and made desolate
and your land laid waste,
now you will be too small for your people,
and those who devoured you will be far away.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]The children born during your bereavement
will yet say in your hearing,
‘This place is too small for us;
give us more space to live in.’
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then you will say in your heart,
‘Who bore me these?
I was bereaved and barren;
I was exiled and rejected.
Who brought these up?
I was left all alone,
but these—where have they come from?’”

[SUP]22 [/SUP]This is what the Sovereign Lord says:
“See, I will beckon to the nations,
I will lift up my banner to the peoples;
they will bring your sons in their arms
and carry your daughters on their hips.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]Kings will be your foster fathers,
and their queens your nursing mothers.
They will bow down before you with their faces to the ground;
they will lick the dust at your feet.
Then you will know that I am the Lord;
those who hope in me will not be disappointed.”

[SUP]24 [/SUP]Can plunder be taken from warriors,
or captives be rescued from the fierce[SUP][c][/SUP]?

[SUP]25 [/SUP]But this is what the Lord says:
“Yes, captives will be taken from warriors,
and plunder retrieved from the fierce;
I will contend with those who contend with you,
and your children I will save.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]I will make your oppressors eat their own flesh;
they will be drunk on their own blood, as with wine.
Then all mankind will know
that I, the Lord, am your Savior,
your Redeemer, the Mighty One of Jacob.”

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

[h=3]Ephesians 2

Jew and Gentile Reconciled Through Christ[/h][SUP]11 [/SUP]Therefore, remember that formerly you who are Gentiles by birth and called “uncircumcised” by those who call themselves “the circumcision” (which is done in the body by human hands)— [SUP]12 [/SUP]remember that at that time you were separate from Christ, excluded from citizenship in Israel and foreigners to the covenants of the promise, without hope and without God in the world. [SUP]13 [/SUP]But now in Christ Jesus you who once were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ.
[SUP]14 [/SUP]For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, [SUP]15 [/SUP]by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, [SUP]16 [/SUP]and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. [SUP]17 [/SUP]He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. [SUP]18 [/SUP]For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Consequently, you are no longer foreigners and strangers, but fellow citizens with God’s people and also members of his household, [SUP]20 [/SUP]built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the chief cornerstone. [SUP]21 [/SUP]In him the whole building is joined together and rises to become a holy temple in the Lord. [SUP]22 [/SUP]And in him you too are being built together to become a dwelling in which God lives by his Spirit.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

In this thread you revealed your ignorance, made a lot of false assertions, misused scripture, misinterpreted scripture, and expressed the virulent racist anti-Semitism that you have in your heart.

And we are leading people to Christ and disciplining them. You're at it again falsely asserting that we aren't. Why? Because your hatred for Israel has unbalanced you to the point that you must vilify, put down, and lie about every Christian who isn't as blind and ignorant as you are.

You've got issues.

In this thread I confronted a lot of closed minded Christians who totally missed the point of the gospel.

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

Many Jews misunderstood God's promise to restore Israel, they were expecting a military leader. Instead they got Jesus and the Kingdom of Heaven.

Zionists today make the same mistake by waiting for God to smote their enemies. But God commanded them to go out and love their enemy and make them into disciples. The mere fact that they want to see their enemies smoted shows that they do not understand Jesus' words.

I am not saying that God will not one day show up with all his might, he will, Jesus afterall says he will return with a sword to judge the living and the dead. But until that day, we are to be Christ's ambassadors.

For this day we must fear the day when God comes to bring judgment on mankind, for we will no longer be able to save the lost


Amos 5
[h=3]The Day of the Lord[/h][SUP]18 [/SUP]Woe to you who long
for the day of the Lord!
Why do you long for the day of the Lord?
That day will be darkness, not light.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]It will be as though a man fled from a lion
only to meet a bear,
as though he entered his house
and rested his hand on the wall
only to have a snake bite him.
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Will not the day of the Lord be darkness, not light—
pitch-dark, without a ray of brightness?

 

[Isaiah_VoiceInTheDesert]

In this thread you revealed your ignorance, made a lot of false assertions, misused scripture, misinterpreted scripture, and expressed the virulent racist anti-Semitism that you have in your heart.

And we are leading people to Christ and disciplining them. You're at it again falsely asserting that we aren't. Why? Because your hatred for Israel has unbalanced you to the point that you must vilify, put down, and lie about every Christian who isn't as blind and ignorant as you are.

You've got issues.

I have not lied or twisted scripture in any way.

 

[Tintin]

Someone ban this cretin and fast!