In context: Romans 4:4-5
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the words written in blue contradict the words in red.
the words written in blue contradict the words in red.
I don't see it is contradict.
Faith is believe/entrust
work is the evident if it possible.
Some people have faith and die in the same second.
He save anyway because the requirement of salvation is faith not work.
So faith and work is 2 different word and has 2 different meaning.
C
...Man's problem is that he continues to sin and must repeatedly seek forgiveness.
Heb. 9:24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. ......10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.....12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool.
Christ has died for all sins, that will ever be committed. You're only hope is to trust in that promise. This idea that you have to be continually forgiven until you die, and hopefully you don't commit a sin and die first, is just a lie from the devil. It's a different gospel. It's a works gospel.
If Christ can overlook the sin of man and still reconcile/justify all men
Quite the contrary, Christ had to die as a ransom (Mt 20:28), an atoning sacrifice (Ro 3:25)
for the sin of those who believe in him (Mt 20:28).
There is no instance in scripture that a person is declared "not guilty" as being finite and permanent in one's life.
Righteousness applies only to the guiltless.
To be declared righteous is to be acquitted of guilt.
And acquittal of guilt is only by faith in Jesus Christ, which justifies--acquits of quilt.
In the Greek, in addition to "an ordinance," and a "righteous act,"
the meaning of "justification" is from the verb dikaioo, "to make or declare right, just,"
and means to establish a person as just by acquittal from guilt, on the conditions of
God's grace in Christ, through his atoning sacrifice, and
the acceptance of Christ by faith (Ro 5:16).
In consistency with his own righteous character, and to show forth that righteous character,
God is both just--in requiring propitiation for sin, and
the one who justifies--in providing that propitiation in Christ's sacrificial death (Ro 3:25-26).
There is no righteousness where there is guilt of sin,
God has declared all the righteous, through justification by faith in Jesus Christ, as "not guilty."
A
Christ did not, and cannot, overlook the sin of man.
Quite the contrary, Christ had to die as a ransom (Mt 20:28), an atoning sacrifice (Ro 3:25)
for the sin of those who believe in him (Mt 20:28).
Nor is there any instance in Scripture of those guilty in sin being declared righteous and just.
Righteousness applies only to the guiltless.
To be declared righteous is to be acquitted of guilt.
And acquittal of guilt is only by faith in Jesus Christ, which justifies--acquits of quilt.
In the Greek, in addition to "an ordinance," and a "righteous act,"
the meaning of "justification" is from the verb dikaioo, "to make or declare right, just,"
and means to establish a person as just by acquittal from guilt, on the conditions of
God's grace in Christ, through his atoning sacrifice, and
the acceptance of Christ by faith (Ro 5:16).
In consistency with his own righteous character, and to show forth that righteous character,
God is both just--in requiring propitiation for sin, and
the one who justifies--in providing that propitiation in Christ's sacrificial death (Ro 3:25-26).
There is no righteousness where there is guilt of sin,
God has declared all the righteous, through justification by faith in Jesus Christ, as "not guilty."
Quite the contrary, Christ had to die as a ransom (Mt 20:28), an atoning sacrifice (Ro 3:25)
for the sin of those who believe in him (Mt 20:28).
Nor is there any instance in Scripture of those guilty in sin being declared righteous and just.
Righteousness applies only to the guiltless.
To be declared righteous is to be acquitted of guilt.
And acquittal of guilt is only by faith in Jesus Christ, which justifies--acquits of quilt.
In the Greek, in addition to "an ordinance," and a "righteous act,"
the meaning of "justification" is from the verb dikaioo, "to make or declare right, just,"
and means to establish a person as just by acquittal from guilt, on the conditions of
God's grace in Christ, through his atoning sacrifice, and
the acceptance of Christ by faith (Ro 5:16).
In consistency with his own righteous character, and to show forth that righteous character,
God is both just--in requiring propitiation for sin, and
the one who justifies--in providing that propitiation in Christ's sacrificial death (Ro 3:25-26).
There is no righteousness where there is guilt of sin,
God has declared all the righteous, through justification by faith in Jesus Christ, as "not guilty."
I don't see it is contradict.
Faith is believe/entrust
work is the evident if it possible.
Some people have faith and die in the same second.
He save anyway because the requirement of salvation is faith not work.
So faith and work is 2 different word and has 2 different meaning.
Faith is believe/entrust
work is the evident if it possible.
Some people have faith and die in the same second.
He save anyway because the requirement of salvation is faith not work.
So faith and work is 2 different word and has 2 different meaning.
How do you know what God actually does?
Oh my, it's amazing what people believe. The good news is, Christ made one sacrifice for all sin.
Christ has died for all sins, that will ever be committed. You're only hope is to trust in that promise. This idea that you have to be continually forgiven until you die, and hopefully you don't commit a sin and die first, is just a lie from the devil. It's a different gospel. It's a works gospel.
Heb. 9:24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. ......10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.....12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool.
Christ has died for all sins, that will ever be committed. You're only hope is to trust in that promise. This idea that you have to be continually forgiven until you die, and hopefully you don't commit a sin and die first, is just a lie from the devil. It's a different gospel. It's a works gospel.
You are a long way in understanding atonement and what is entailed in attaining eternal life.
Do you know the difference between atonement and forgiveness?
Elin,
I cited the text that stated very clearly that Christ overlooked the sin of man. He atoned for the sin of the world. NO place does it ever say He atoned for the sins of ONLY believers. I John 2:2, John 1:29
Christ did not, and cannot, overlook the sin of man.
Quite the contrary, Christ had to die as a ransom (Mt 20:28), an atoning sacrifice (Ro 3:25)
for the sin of those who believe in him (Mt 20:28).
Quite the contrary, Christ had to die as a ransom (Mt 20:28), an atoning sacrifice (Ro 3:25)
for the sin of those who believe in him (Mt 20:28).
Elin,
I cited two instances where Christ overlooked the sin of man and redeemed mankind. II Cor 5:19 very clearly states that God overlooked the sin of man, did not impute their trespasses against them. The very same thing is stated in Rom 3:23-25.
Righteousness means to be made right, to be put into a correct relationship. It does not mean to be acquitted of guilt. Faith justifies, puts one in a correct relationship. It does not forgiveness, only repentance can do that.
when you balance your checkbook it is called justifying or reconciling your checkbook with the bank statement. It NEVER means you acquitted your checkbook of guilt.
You have been misled by the theory of Anselm's theory of atonement as well as Jerome's use of the word, justification, a Latin word which does not correctly define the Greek nor the Hebrew.
You or your protestant source is translating the Latin meaning back into the Greek. This definition was never held by anyone except Anselm and then both Luther and Calvin adopted the theory into their own interpretation of scripture.
Even if you did hold to the definition it would be only temporary because man sins repeatedly and would need repentance/or confession to again warrant a "Not guilty" status. And it would be repentance/confession that remits sins, which then puts man back into a just, righteous, reconciled, position with God.
Nor is there any instance in Scripture of those guilty in sin being declared righteous and just.
Righteousness applies only to the guiltless.
To be declared righteous is to be acquitted of guilt.
And acquittal of guilt is only by faith in Jesus Christ, which justifies--acquits of quilt.
Righteousness applies only to the guiltless.
To be declared righteous is to be acquitted of guilt.
And acquittal of guilt is only by faith in Jesus Christ, which justifies--acquits of quilt.
Righteousness means to be made right, to be put into a correct relationship. It does not mean to be acquitted of guilt. Faith justifies, puts one in a correct relationship. It does not forgiveness, only repentance can do that.
when you balance your checkbook it is called justifying or reconciling your checkbook with the bank statement. It NEVER means you acquitted your checkbook of guilt.
You have been misled by the theory of Anselm's theory of atonement as well as Jerome's use of the word, justification, a Latin word which does not correctly define the Greek nor the Hebrew.
In the Greek, in addition to "an ordinance," and a "righteous act,"
the meaning of "justification" is from the verb dikaioo, "to make or declare right, just,"
and means to establish a person as just by acquittal from guilt, on the conditions of
God's grace in Christ, through his atoning sacrifice, and
the acceptance of Christ by faith (Ro 5:16).
the meaning of "justification" is from the verb dikaioo, "to make or declare right, just,"
and means to establish a person as just by acquittal from guilt, on the conditions of
God's grace in Christ, through his atoning sacrifice, and
the acceptance of Christ by faith (Ro 5:16).
Even if you did hold to the definition it would be only temporary because man sins repeatedly and would need repentance/or confession to again warrant a "Not guilty" status. And it would be repentance/confession that remits sins, which then puts man back into a just, righteous, reconciled, position with God.
Php 1:6, 2:13.
If it was up to God to save unilaterally, He would give everyone eternal life, for that is what He desires.
Does scripture even address this assertion?
How do you know what God actually does?
How do you know what God actually does?
A man believe in Him have everlasting life.
Oh my, it's amazing what people believe. The good news is, Christ made one sacrifice for all sin.
Christ has died for all sins, that will ever be committed. You're only hope is to trust in that promise. This idea that you have to be continually forgiven until you die, and hopefully you don't commit a sin and die first, is just a lie from the devil. It's a different gospel. It's a works gospel.
Heb. 9:24 For Christ has not entered the holy places made with hands, which are copies of the true, but into heaven itself, now to appear in the presence of God for us; 25 not that He should offer Himself often, as the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood of another— 26 He then would have had to suffer often since the foundation of the world; but now, once at the end of the ages, He has appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of Himself. 27 And as it is appointed for men to die once, but after this the judgment, 28 so Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many. To those who eagerly wait for Him He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation. ......10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.....12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool.
Christ has died for all sins, that will ever be committed. You're only hope is to trust in that promise. This idea that you have to be continually forgiven until you die, and hopefully you don't commit a sin and die first, is just a lie from the devil. It's a different gospel. It's a works gospel.
you did not read the whole chapter...
Hebrews 10:26
For if we go on sinning deliberately after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins,
or this.....
1 John 2:1
My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. But if anyone does sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous.
1 John 1:8
If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1 John 1:9
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.