The Hour Of Temptation

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ozell

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How will the Lord keep those from the hour of temptation(great tribulation) that will come upon the whole world?

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth

The great tribulation, the hour of temptation, the time of trouble, this is the beast and false prophets time to rule.

Mat 24:21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth

Rev 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.

Rev 18:9 And the kings of the earth, who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her, shall bewail her, and lament for her, when they shall see the smoke of her burning,

10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying, Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:

17 For in one hour so great riches is come to nought. And every shipmaster, and all the company in ships, and sailors, and as many as trade by sea, stood afar off,

Mat 6:13 And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil: For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen.

Mar 14:38 Watch ye and pray, lest ye enter into temptation. The spirit truly [is] ready, but the flesh [is] weak.

Only the Lord can deliver.
 
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ozell

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Psalms91 tells of a secret place for the righteous in God during the tribulation and wrath of God.

Its in the bible its not a rapture. Its on this earth.


Psa 91:1 He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.

I will say of the LORD, [He is] my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.

3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, [and] from the noisome pestilence.

4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth [shall be thy] shield and buckler.

5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; [nor] for the arrow [that] flieth by day;

6 [Nor] for the pestilence [that] walketh in darkness; [nor] for the destruction [that] wasteth at noonday.

7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; [but] it shall not come nigh thee.

8 Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.

9 Because thou hast made the LORD, [which is] my refuge, [even] the most High, thy habitation;

10 There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

11 For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.

12 They shall bear thee up in [their] hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.

13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

14 Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.

15 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I [will be] with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.

16 With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.
 
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ozell

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In Isaiah 16 the Lamb is sent to the wilderness unto the daughters of Zion who are being hid from the spoiler.

This lamb then proceed to go to sit on the throne of David judging and seeking judgement.

This is Jesus. and it goes hand in glove with Matthew24 and Revelation 12

The people in Judea fled into the mountains. Matthew24

The woman fled into the wilderness. Revelation 12

The secret place in Psalm 91

Why is it called a secret place in Psalms 91?

the Christians are talking about a rapture there nothing secret about that.

the secret is that the Lord has a place on this earth to protect us.

The Lord took Israel into the wilderness during Moses day, they did not have to go the way they did, yet the Lord took them there and they were protected by him.

No other nation could touch them without his permission.

Isa 16:1 Send ye the lamb to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.

4: Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler: for the extortioner is at an end, the spoiler ceaseth, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.

5: And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.
 
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ozell

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why is the Lamb going to the wilderness?

who is this Lamb?

where is the wilderness?

sa 16:1 Send ye the lamb to the ruler of the land from Sela to the wilderness, unto the mount of the daughter of Zion.

4: Let mine outcasts dwell with thee, Moab; be thou a covert to them from the face of the spoiler: for the extortioner is at an end, the spoiler ceaseth, the oppressors are consumed out of the land.

5: And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness.

who is the outcast?

who is the spoiler?
 
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ozell

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Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth

what is the word of Jesus patience?

what is the hour of God's temptation?

how do Jesus KEEP us from this time?
 
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He will be with us like always.
 
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ozell

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The Lord will hide his face from time to time.

Deut 31:17 Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day. Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us?

Deut 31:18 And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods.

Deut 32:20 And he said, I will hide my face from them, I will see what their end shall be: for they are a very froward generation, children in whom is no faith.

the Lord said seek him while he can be found.

Prov 1:28 Then shall they call upon me, but I will not answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall not find me:

in our affliction do we seek the Lord

Hosea 5:15 I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me early.

now the Lord said
Rev 3:10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth

what if we don't keep the word of the Lord's patience?
 
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ozell

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the majority of the christian world is taught the rapture which can't be found in the bible.

yet the bible speaks of fleeing to the wilderness as in the days of old.

how many here know about the wilderness?

It is written Jesus never changes

Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

where did Jesus take anyone of to heaven for protection?

protection from satan and his people has always been on this earth.
 
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greatkraw

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you sound like you want to identify with Israel;

or do you think the church has replaced Israel?
 
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ozell

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you sound like you want to identify with Israel;

or do you think the church has replaced Israel?
the church is Israel

Israel is one of God's name.
 
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ozell

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Where did the church start?

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

whose name is Israel?

Ezek 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

Ezek 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.
 
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Definition_Christ

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the church is Israel

Israel is one of God's name.
Israel is not one of God's name and the Church is grafted into Israel.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Where did the church start?

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

whose name is Israel?

Ezek 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

Ezek 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.
Church: ekklesia--the called out
Ezekial--does not follow. The fact that he addresses them as Israel in no way means that they pollute His name by being called Israel.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Church: ekklesia--the called out
Ezekial--does not follow. The fact that he addresses them as Israel in no way means that they pollute His name by being called Israel.
In other words, ekklesia is being used in its generic sense, not to mention that this is an accurate record of what Stephen said and without other collaberation would be insifficient to establish a theology that Israel was the church.
Regarding Ezekiel, God does not call Himself Israel in that passage. If I said to you, "George, the Lord God says that you blaspheme His name," I am not saying that God's name is George. Simple grammar. If Hebrew has a vocative case, and I believe that it does, this would make it even clearer.
 
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ozell

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Israel is not one of God's name and the Church is grafted into Israel.

what name is Israel polluting?

Ezek 20:39 As for you, O house of Israel, thus saith the Lord GOD; Go ye, serve ye every one his idols, and hereafter also, if ye will not hearken unto me: but pollute ye my holy name no more with your gifts, and with your idols.

Ezek 39:7 So will I make my holy name known in the midst of my people Israel; and I will not let them pollute my holy name any more: and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, the Holy One in Israel.

Jacob was given the name of Israel, whose name do Israel belong to the angel or God?
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ozell

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Church: ekklesia--the called out
Ezekial--does not follow. The fact that he addresses them as Israel in no way means that they pollute His name by being called Israel.
whos name is being polluted?
 
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ozell

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Israel is not one of God's name and the Church is grafted into Israel.

the church is grafted into Israel , so that make Israel the church. CORRECT?

WHEN AND WHERE DID THE CHURCH START?

WE READ

Acts 7:38 This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:
 
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ozell

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What is the name of the father of the twleve tribes of Israel?

who gave him a new name?

who changed his name?

is Israel the name of a angel or God?
 
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ozell

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Rv 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

who is this woman that fled into the wilderness?

where is the wilderenss?

where is this place prepared of by God?

14: And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

where is her place?
 
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ozell

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Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

nothing has changed in God's escape plan for his servants in the end days
 
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