KJVONLY TRUE BIBLE BAPTISM! from ORIGINAL KJV GREEK TEXT!

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ooooo kaaaaay

finding new things again

lets start here

John 1:29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
John 1:30 This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
John 1:31 And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.

FACT John was in the RIVER baptizing with WATER

he said so

ok so baptizing like John
means
IN THE RIVER AND DIPPING

because Jesus came UP out of the water

so JOHNS APTISM was in the river in water going under and coming up

that is now established Biblical fact

lets go on

John 1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.



NEAT!

GOD TOLD JOHN to go BAPTIZE IN THE RIVER WITH WATER

BIBLE FACT:

lets go on



John 3:22 After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized.
John 3:23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
John 3:24 For John was not yet cast into prison.
John 3:25 Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying.
John 3:26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him.
John 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven.


OK

so we have proof that Jesus baptised IN THE RIVER AND WITH WATER gonig down and up because Johns disciples said
JESUS IS DOING IT ALWASo!!!

Bible fact

Jesus and his disciples baptized in RIVERS in the WATER and DIPPING PEOPLE UNDER AND COMING UP

Bible fact.

lets go on:

John 3:23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
John 3:24 For John was not yet cast into prison.


ok MUCH WATER is needed to go down and up

rivers are nice.


lets go on

John 4:1 When therefore the Lord knew how the Pharisees had heard that Jesus made and baptized more disciples than John,

Jesus baptized MORE THAN JOHN EVEN

they could call JEsus
Jesus the baptist!


Acts 1:4 And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
Acts 1:5 For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.


Now the disciples were ALREADY BAPTIZED with water, and Jesus now promised the spirit also...


Acts 1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us,
Acts 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection.
Acts 1:23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias.


to be a true disciple you HAVE TO BE BAPTISED BY JOHNS water and then the spirit... like Jesus was.

HALLELUJAH!

just found it!

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Peter tells

1. EVERY ONE OF US TO BE BAPTISED!!!
in the name of Jesus christ FOR THE REMISSION REPENTANCE STOPPING PUTTING AWAY CESATION Freedom, PArdon, Deliverance of sins

and you will then recieve the gift of the holy ghost


so WATER BAPTISM and THEN SPIRIT BAPTISM FOLLOWS

baptism is NOT SPIRIT ONLY



JEsus was baptised in the water and THEN RECIEVED THE DOVE OF THE SPIRIT

follow him

twisters will say no water neded

that is wrong.

Acts 2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.


the day of THREE THOUSAND BAPTISMS IN THE WATER

false gospels teach a tongue of fire came down and that was the babptism
that is not according to KJV

they were baptised and THEN they recieved the holy spirit.

you ahve to repent before you reciev the holy spirit. baptism means washing form sins and stopping them forever by JEsus blood power,
and then you reciev the holy spirit.



Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
Acts 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.

ok philip BAPTIZED and simon was BAPTIZED

but remember simon did not recieve the holy spirit!
He wanted to buy the holy spirit

he had the WATER baptism but never recieved the holy spirit so he tried to buy it

proof positive that baptisme by PHILLIP is by WATER and then the SPIRIT.


NUCLEAR POWERFUL!
look at this!
Acts 8:13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
Acts 8:14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
Acts 8:15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he the holy spirit was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
Acts 8:17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
ok here goes all the false doctrines in the once saved always saved churches
BAptism is by water
and if you repnt truly you then get the holy spirit
the KING JAMES AUTHORIZED BIBLE TEACHES US that all those people were BAPTISED but as yet had NOT RECIEVED THE HOLY SPIRIT so they wondered what was wrong,,, they sent for JOH N to pray for them...
the problem was simon was a sorceror and DID NOT REPENT!
sl the spirit was not givin! so
BAPTISM IS BY WATER and REPENTANCE and then THE HOLY SPIRITclear as a bell

again:
they were BAPTIZED but DID NOT RECIEV THE HOLY SPIRIT!
obviously baptism is NOT just by holy spirit
water is needed!
why did not recieve holy spirit?
SIMON had not repented and he blocked all of them from recieving the holy spirit ...
one person unrepentant in your church such as a remarried divorcee will block the holy spirit...
Bible says so that is another study.anyway.
remember PHILLIP did the baptizing...
how did phillip- baptize?
let us see
Acts 8:33 In his humiliation his judgment was taken away: and who shall declare his generation? for his life is taken from the earth.
Acts 8:34 And the eunuch answered Philip, and said, I pray thee, of whom speaketh the prophet this? of himself, or of some other man?
Acts 8:35 Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus.
Acts 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?
Acts 8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
Acts 8:38 And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.
Acts 8:39 And when they were come up out of the water, the Spirit of the Lord caught away Philip, that the eunuch saw him no more: and he went on his way rejoicing.
Acts 8:40 But Philip was found at Azotus: and passing through he preached in all the cities, till he came to Caesarea.



PAul had a reverse baptism

Acts 9:17 And Ananias went his way, and entered into the house; and putting his hands on him said, Brother Saul, the Lord, even Jesus, that appeared unto thee in the way as thou camest, hath sent me, that thou mightest receive thy sight, and be filled with the Holy Ghost.
Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.




he was FILLED with the holy ghost,
and THEN he was baptised

first spirit (he had already repented three days)
and then water!

obviously water required to be baptised.






Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
Acts 10:36 The word which God sent unto the children of Israel, preaching peace by Jesus Christ: (he is Lord of all:)
Acts 10:37 That word, I say, ye know, which was published throughout all Judaea, and began from Galilee, after the baptism which John preached;
Acts 10:38 How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.


again PETER preached the baptism of JOHN in WATER that JESUS took...

Again, a reverse scenario

these people REPENTED and were filled with the holy spirit, and THEN WERE BAPTISED IN WATER!

Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.






FOUND TEH KING JAMES TWIST!

Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.


BUT YE SHALL BE is incorrect

it was ADDED IN THERE because the church of england looks for every excuse not to use wter...
it was added

here is te original.

Acts 11:16 de:G1161 THEN
mnaomai:G3415 . . REMEMBERED
rhema:G4487 . . WORD
kurios:G2962 LORD
hos:G5613 . . HOW
lego:G3004 SAID
ioannes:G2491 JOHN
men:G3303 INDEED
baptizo:G907 . BAPTIZED
hudor:G5204 . . . . WATER
baptizo:G907 . . BAPTIZED
hagios:G40 ...HOLY
pneuma:G4151 GHOST


no tell me
if you are honest
how do you get out of that
INSTEAD of water BUT you shall be baptized with holy ghost?

just totally unclear

it should be
more clearly said
JOHN said THOSE WHO ARE BAPTISED IN WATER WILL RECIEVE THE HOLY GHOST

that is the accurate way that matches other Bible texts.

so on this verse look up other translations
the church of england HATE WATER BAPTISM and wrote it such...
incorrect meaning could be taken from it,]

it could more clearly say

those who are baptised in water shall reciev the holy ghost

which matches ALL THE OTHER VERSES in the Bible

it pays to study!

the twisted scripture readers glom onto this church of england twisted verse without looking up all the others.

we need both water and the spirit is given to those who repent

SImon did not get the spirit
he had not repented.

well thats it in a nutshell
everything you wanted to know about baptism in 30 minutes from the AUTHORIZED KING JAMES BIBLE GREEK














 
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Acts 16:13 And on the sabbath we went out of the city by a river side, where prayer was wont to be made; and we sat down, and spake unto the women which resorted thither.
Acts 16:14 And a certain woman named Lydia, a seller of purple, of the city of Thyatira, which worshipped God, heard us: whose heart the Lord opened, that she attended unto the things which were spoken of Paul.
Acts 16:15 And when she was baptized, and her household, she besought us, saying, If ye have judged me to be faithful to the Lord, come into my house, and abide there. And she constrained us.


more rivers
and more waters
 
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Cornelius and His Household

In the example of Cornelius and his household (Acts 10), they listened to Peter preach to them about Jesus and that He was who all the prophets spoke of--His life, death and resurrection--and that whoever believes in Him shall receive remission of sins. (Acts 10:43) The passage recounts how, before Peter could even baptize them, they all received the Holy Spirit after believing. (Acts 10:44) However, there are some who challenge that by saying, "Well, they were 'immediately' baptized." Would God have removed His Spirit from them if the baptism had been performed hours or days later? No. The Holy Spirit is an abiding presence. (John 14:16). The timing was important here for several reasons. The Mosaic Law had been a wall between Jews and Gentiles, but that wall had been broken down at the cross. The "Judaizers" contended that the Gentiles had to be circumcised and keep the Law in order to be accepted by God and come into the church. At the council at Jerusalem (Acts 15), it was brought out that none of these things were required of the Gentile converts; the Gentiles had heard the Gospel from Peter's mouth, they had believed and they were saved by grace through faith, not by the works of the Law, such as circumcision. (Acts. 15:7-9) We see that the giving of the Spirit was not dependent on any physical requirement of the Law, including the physical act of baptism (Note: This does not mean Christians can abide in sin that leads unto death, such as murder, hate, lying, etc.). Anyways, Cornelius and his household did, after all, receive God's Spirit prior to baptism. So this incident shows that it wasn't baptism that saved Cornelius and his household (or what caused them to receive or keep the Holy Spirit). Their baptism that followed only gave evidence that they had already been baptized by the Holy Spirit and were saved.

Samaritans Who Believed


Why did those Samaritans who believed and were baptized in an outward ceremony (Acts 8:12) not receive the Holy Spirit? When the apostles heard that they received the Word of God, they sent Peter and John unto them, to pray for them, "that they might receive the Holy Spirit." (Acts 8:14-16). These Samaritans did not receive the Spirit when they were baptized because God wanted the Samaritan believers to be united with the original Jewish church in Jerusalem. It served the purpose of confirming Philip's teaching among the Samaritans and authenticated their work to the apostles in Jerusalem.

Source:
Do We Only Receive the Holy Spirit As a Result of Baptism?
 
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