What is God's heart on gays and lesbians?

[Beckster]

So, this is a popular topic. I was once told that God loves all his children, no matter what. This I surely know for a fact because He still loves me after all I have done. In my heart I know that God loves homosexuals. I have many friends who are homosexuals and my love and care for them hasn't changed. But then I get angry and confused when I read stories about Christian universities kicking them out because of that, and some even receiving threats and hate from christians. I have also been told that I should not be friends with any of them either.

I do not agree with my friends and their chosen lifestyle but how do I go about it? How should I act around them? What should I tell them when they ask me if they are going to hell? And how can I protect them from others who wish to harm them by telling them that God hates them?

 

[Kerry]

It is an abomination. But God still loves them and is reaching His hand out to them.

 

[Scuba]

So, this is a popular topic. I was once told that God loves all his children, no matter what. This I surely know for a fact because He still loves me after all I have done. In my heart I know that God loves homosexuals. I have many friends who are homosexuals and my love and care for them hasn't changed. But then I get angry and confused when I read stories about Christian universities kicking them out because of that, and some even receiving threats and hate from christians. I have also been told that I should not be friends with any of them either.

I do not agree with my friends and their chosen lifestyle but how do I go about it? How should I act around them? What should I tell them when they ask me if they are going to hell? And how can I protect them from others who wish to harm them by telling them that God hates them?

This is a very touchy subject because who here can cast the first stone when it comes to living sinless? The homosexual lifestyle has become an epidemic in today's society along with all the other many forms of sexual immorality. I can't help but to think of Romans 1:21-27.

Romans 1:21-27 Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn’t worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles. So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other’s bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen. That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

When I look at salvation I see two forms of it. I see one group of people needing to be saved from their willful transgressions and I see people needing to be healed of sickness. We have a lot of mental disorders and physical handicaps in our fallen world. To me, I believe there are some homosexuals that have a disorder that needs to be healed and I see some who see homosexuality as a fad or something new to try out. One group struggles with the desires while the other group takes pleasure and pride in the lifestyle. These are two different types of people and I believe God looks at both these groups differently. One needs a lawyer and the other needs a doctor. To hang hang out with and help a sick person who desires to be healthy is a ministry of love but to hang around a willful transgressor who has an, in your face attitude of pride and rebellion, is not something we should be doing.

Our relationships with the ungodly must be to affect them with change not one that infects us with compromise. How would you feel about hanging out with someone who is cheating on his wife? Would it be a good relationship or would it be one that is loaded with conviction? At some point something needs to change in you or him.

 

[BradC]

So, this is a popular topic. I was once told that God loves all his children, no matter what. This I surely know for a fact because He still loves me after all I have done. In my heart I know that God loves homosexuals. I have many friends who are homosexuals and my love and care for them hasn't changed. But then I get angry and confused when I read stories about Christian universities kicking them out because of that, and some even receiving threats and hate from christians. I have also been told that I should not be friends with any of them either.

I do not agree with my friends and their chosen lifestyle but how do I go about it? How should I act around them? What should I tell them when they ask me if they are going to hell? And how can I protect them from others who wish to harm them by telling them that God hates them?

We are not here to hate them or be critical of them but we must understand what has brought them to that place from God's viewpoint. Somehow through the plan of God they must be convicted in their heart and become uncomfortable about what they have given place to in their life that has brought them to that place. Their sins have been paid for just as our sins have been and they need to recognize that they are backwards and have gone astray and are heading to a place where they will be given over and become reprobate being rejected by God (Jer 7:24).

 

[Brandon911]

the act of homosexuality is sinful and I believe that all unrepentant gays and lesbians will perish. I also believe that we should love them and teach them God's truth.

 

[santuzza]

I fell into a trap once about this. When I was a very young Christian, a gay friend of mine was very upset with my pursuit of a godly lifestyle. He made the statement, "Well, I guess now you think I'm going to hell." I was, unfortunately, unprepared for that. I won't tell you what I said because it was a mistake, and I truly wish I could go back to that moment and respond by saying something like this:

It is not my place to determine who is going to hell and who is not -- that is God's job. I'm just trying to live a life that is godly and to tell people that God loved them SO much He died for them. If you have questions about your lifestyle, then you should read the Bible, pray, and let the Lord direct you in your paths.

Unfortunately, many unbelievers will try to set you up. They will try to argue with you and call you names like bigot, homophobe, intolerant, etc. Just keep it to the Bible. Tell them that you're just trying to follow God's path for your life. Show them love. It is they who are the intolerant ones. It is they who have the fear (and, btw, they SHOULD be fearful!). Take the high road, and don't get mired down.

 

[Kerry]

Look folks I am talking about the individual, now on a large scale it must be fought against. I meant I don't want any of my children or grandchildren or great grandchildren to fall prey to this lie. If we could stamp it out then stamp it out. We have become to soft and allowing less than 3% of our population dictate the rules when we live in a country where majority is supposed to rule.

But, we should show them love and not hate on the individual level and attempt to lead them to Christ. I don't want anyone to burn in hell and neither does God. But, if they continue to reject and pursue their self worhip, then that's what will happen. Amen

 

[Beckster]

Thank you! That was definitely an eye-opener...I do not want to hurt my best-friend but sometimes it cannot be avoided. And I rather hurt her than face God and not know what to say when He asks me "Why didn't you fight for my child? Your friend?"

 

[thecreationtutor]

It is all based on misplaced Father love, and an's bent towards sin

 

[notuptome]

Romans chapter 1 is a comprehensive explanation of where God stands on the issue. God does love the soul but God hates the sin. God has done great things to draw the soul to Christ for salvation and forgiveness of sin but men refuse and even delight in their sin knowing that God is bound to judge them in the last day.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Esanta]

So, this is a popular topic. I was once told that God loves all his children, no matter what. This I surely know for a fact because He still loves me after all I have done. In my heart I know that God loves homosexuals. I have many friends who are homosexuals and my love and care for them hasn't changed. But then I get angry and confused when I read stories about Christian universities kicking them out because of that, and some even receiving threats and hate from christians. I have also been told that I should not be friends with any of them either.

I do not agree with my friends and their chosen lifestyle but how do I go about it? How should I act around them? What should I tell them when they ask me if they are going to hell? And how can I protect them from others who wish to harm them by telling them that God hates them?

One of the biggest parts of being 'friends' is loving them regardless of their personal decisions, after realizing they are personal decisions, with no bearing on you. You didn't make their decisions for them, and what they decide to do with their own lives is naturally not any of your business. Sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

Imagine your friends saying to you, 'I don't agree with you being Christian'. Wouldn't you say 'well, it's frankly none of your business'?

You haven't made their decisions for them, and it's far from reality to consider yourself so important as to be 'condoning' or 'encouraging' their decisions. The facts of it are; they are their decisions and have not come about by your actions. So, you have two options;

1. Push the subject and alienate your friends,
2. Have compassion for them and continue to be friends with them, even if they are 'sinners' who are making mistakes in your eyes.

You can't protect them from abuse and condemnation and all the reviling and nastiness, but you can be a friendly face for them, someone from whom they don't have to suffer it from too. And let's be honest, neither of us know where they're going after they die, and they probably don't pay the thought much attention until it's brought up. The reality is, there's a here and now, where you can love your friends unconditionally, treat them with respect, as adults, people who have made their decisions which have no bearing on you, or you can live in agitation and upset.

 

[Flamingspirit]

the act of homosexuality is sinful and I believe that all unrepentant gays and lesbians will perish. I also believe that we should love them and teach them God's truth.

This makes no sense coupled with love. To God a live dog is BETTER than a dead lion!

 

[Elin]

One of the biggest parts of being 'friends' is loving them regardless of their personal decisions, after realizing they are personal decisions, with no bearing on you. You didn't make their decisions for them, and what they decide to do with their own lives is naturally not any of your business. Sorry to be blunt, but it's true.

Imagine your friends saying to you, 'I don't agree with you being Christian'. Wouldn't you say 'well, it's frankly none of your business'?

You haven't made their decisions for them, and it's far from reality to consider yourself so important as to be 'condoning' or 'encouraging' their decisions. The facts of it are; they are their decisions and have not come about by your actions. So, you have two options;

1. Push the subject and alienate your friends,
2. Have compassion for them and continue to be friends with them, even if they are 'sinners' who are making mistakes in your eyes.

You can't protect them from abuse and condemnation and all the reviling and nastiness, but you can be a friendly face for them, someone from whom they don't have to suffer it from too.
And let's be honest, neither of us know where they're going after they die,

Wrong.

If the word of God is true, they will go to condemnation if they do not turn from their sin
of the practice of sexual immorality to faith in and obedience to Jesus Christ's commands
as given in the NT.

The only issue is: is the word of God true?

and they probably don't pay the thought much attention until it's brought up. The reality is, there's a here and now, where
you can love your friends unconditionally, treat them with respect, as adults, people who have made their decisions which have no bearing on you, or you can live in agitation and upset.

That's not God's wisdom, that's worldly wisdom, which is all you've got.

You don't understand what a Christian is called to do, do you?

 

[secularhermit]

I don´t have problems with lesbians. It be a problem if they cheated me on.

 

[Grandpa]

What is God's heart on adulterers and liars?

Apparently God loves sinners and has sent His Son to die for them and forgive them of their sins. But He doesn't desire that any should be stuck that way.

I think it is odd that someone would call themselves by their sin. I never called myself a coveter or a liar, even though I was one at one time.

I guess our society still isn't proud of those sins and encouraging them.

 

[Elin]

I don´t have problems with lesbians. It be a problem if they cheated me on.

The issue is not whether we have problems with them, but rather does God have problems with their unrepentant lifestyle and unbelief.

 

[Esanta]

Wrong.

If the word of God is true, they will go to condemnation if they do not turn from their sin
of the practice of sexual immorality to faith in and obedience to Jesus Christ's commands
as given in the NT.

The only issue is: is the word of God true?


You don't understand what a Christian is called to do, do you?

I know my own lifestyle decisions to be the decisions I can be rightly judged for, not those decisions made by other adults. I also know that I am the only person whose decisions I can enforce, not the decisions of others adults. I know that by trying to enforce my personal life decisions on other adults who make their own decisions, that I do nothing for them except what I perceive might further my position with God as opposed to theirs, and I know that I am not in the business of playing 'let's see who daddy likes best'.

What someone decides to do with their life, within the boundaries of the law, I cannot change. It's not my place. They have made that decision, and it is theirs, not mine.

 

[secularhermit]

The issue is not whether we have problems with them, but rather does God have problems with their unrepentant lifestyle and unbelief.

Absolutely!

The same unrepented life is with straight ones, heterosexuals, believer and unbelievers. In fact, it doesn´t matter their sexual tendency, but that lifestyle of cheating and lust (because that is what they believed: Which is idolatry).

God doesn´t have any problem.

Society, family and "loved ones" do have problems.

Instead of GOD, it is US who had problems in shaping our life just to be drawn to love God´s love.

Trying to please Him, somehow, while guessing how to please us out, just a bit: He is the source of life and contendment.

 

[Fishbait]

So, this is a popular topic. I was once told that God loves all his children, no matter what. This I surely know for a fact because He still loves me after all I have done. In my heart I know that God loves homosexuals. I have many friends who are homosexuals and my love and care for them hasn't changed. But then I get angry and confused when I read stories about Christian universities kicking them out because of that, and some even receiving threats and hate from christians. I have also been told that I should not be friends with any of them either.

I do not agree with my friends and their chosen lifestyle but how do I go about it? How should I act around them? What should I tell them when they ask me if they are going to hell? And how can I protect them from others who wish to harm them by telling them that God hates them?

You first must know if your gay friends are Christian. God doesn't hate homosexuals. He hates sin. And all of us are sinners.

If they profess to be a Christian then all is not lost. If not then you have to help make them become one. This will not be an easy task. Many heads have been lopped off for trying to do so.

Homosexuality (from Ancient Greek ?µ??, meaning "same", and Latin sexus, meaning "sex") is romantic attraction, sexual attraction or sexual behavior between members of the same sex or gender.

Then you must inform them of the following:

Is it possible to be a gay Christian? If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who struggles against homosexual desires and temptations – yes, a “gay Christian” is possible. However, the description “gay Christian” is not accurate for such a person, since he/she does not desire to be gay, and is struggling against the temptations. Such a person is not a “gay Christian,” but rather is simply a struggling Christian, just as there are Christians who struggle with fornication, lying, and stealing. If the phrase “gay Christian” refers to a person who actively, perpetually, and unrepentantly lives a homosexual lifestyle – no, it is not possible for such a person to truly be a Christian.

God's words are clear about all of us that sin.

“Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

In that day when we ALL stand before God to answer for our sins we can be assured that we will have a lawyer that will defend us to God's satisfaction. That 'lawyer' is Jesus Christ. The price we have to pay for Him has already been paid at the cross. Get your gay friends to confess Him as their Saviour and they can be assured of eternity in Heaven.

 

[wgeurts]

You can "like" another person of the same sex but you cannot have sex with them. The best is to not do anything in a gay relationship or have one at all as it causes temptation to sin by having sex out marrige (only men and woman together can marry) and God is clear that sex between men is wrong. As a christian you should flee temptation (can't remember passage) and being in a gay relation would be causing temptation.