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Look no further here is a Principle that if you operate in faith in will bring results!

Proverbs 22:6
Start children off on the way they should go,
and even when they are old they will not turn from it.
Know most people read this passage and think that it is about training them up in the ways of God. But we know that there are PK's(Pastors Kids) and others that backslide and fall away from faith. To get the true context of this verse we only have to go to the next verse which is:

Proverbs 22:7
The rich rule over the poor,
and the borrower is slave to the lender.
So as my child grows i never want them to see me without money i only want them to hear the borrower is servant to the lender. We must break our view of poverty and start putting our eyes on The word what does the word say. The borrower is servant to the lender!!!
This being said what are some things that a Lender has over a Borrower i will mention 4.
1. interest
2. Date of Payment
3.Security
4. terms

1. Terms will be if i give one hundred dollars in an offering how much percent do i want on this offering. Lets say im giving a hundred dollars i choose how much interest i can get on that hundred dollar bill whether it is 1 percent or 1000 percent.
2. Date of Payment i choose when i get my money remember it is on your terms
3. security im stepping out by doing this give me something know so i know when that date comes ill have faith that i will get something back!
4. terms so you can choose to have it all on one day or choose to have payments up until that day again it is your terms.

This being established how do we begin to operate in this well there is a very interesting verse in proverbs 19:17


Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the Lord,
and he will reward them for what they have done.

That word poor actually means a need. So if i lend to a need then i lend to the Lord. This is not the tithe this is above the tithe!! this is in the area of sowing a seed and reaping a harvest from it!! So therefore when i give to a need and give a hundred dollars to a need im literally lending to the Lord which activates those 4 priniciples. I can tell the Lord how much interest i want the date of payment the security and the terms! Because you lend to the Lord He literally becomes the borrower so therefore He will pay it back because He can not go against His word!!!!!

When you give step out give sacrificially in order to reap a harvest you must force the ground into production!! -Prophet Uebert Angel

I encourage you begin to put this into practice and you will see amazing things happen.
i will share a testimony!

I learned this principle and i began to operate in it immediately I sowed 100 dollars the most i had ever given at that time. When i did this i was also facing the music i needed money in order to survive on a mission trip to Washington D.C to eat and drink and somewhere to lay my head!! So i asked for atleast 2,000 dollars and i wanted it by the end of the trip and also i needed a plane ticket as well and i told him he could pay me back through out the three weeks i was there. so the next day a very well known pastor comes through the drive through that i know and i told him about the mission trip and he sowed the exact amount i had sowed the night before!!! Gloray!!!!!! Then i was able to get the plane ticket the next pay check if he would not have sown into the trip i would not have gone to D.C.

So when i leave for D.C i only have 90 dollars in my pocket i go. When i get there within 2 days im only down to 40 dollars! Then the next day by the end im up to 140 dollars. By the end of this trip i had a 300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits 70 dollars worth of Books. I had ties and then the last night as i was heading back to the DAR. I ran into this women she had heard about my testimony. Know that day before i got cloths i was blessed with 80 dollars!!!! So i met this women and she handed me a check and i was like praise God i am leaving with more then i came with. I open the check and it was a 500 dollar check and I
ALMOST PASSED OUT IN MY EXCITEMENT I HAD NEVER HAD THAT HAPPEN TO ME BEFORE.
THIS PRINCIPLE WORKS AND IF YOU OPERATE IN IT IT WILL CHANGE YOUR LIFE I HOPE THIS SHORT TESTIMONY HAS INSPIRED YOU SO PLEASE STEP OUT!!!


THIS THREAD IS NOT OPEN TO DEBATE I AM HERE TO EDIFY AND NOT CAUSE DIVISION AMONG THE BODY SO IF YOU HAVE TO CONFESS NEGATIVE OR DOUBT AND UNBELIEF MOVE ON THIS IS NOT THE THREAD THANK YOU!!!!!




 
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waterlily

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You can never "lend" to the Lord. Everything is His. God will never owe a debt especially not to His creation. He's the one who paid my debt.
God is righteous, Holy, sovereign in every single way. God bless.
 
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I see no edification in Word of Faith cult teachings.
 
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Ugly again their is no reason to speak negative im not in a cult I believe Jesus is messiah He died on the cross rose on the third day and Is at the right hand of the father
 
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I know you don't want arguments little brother, but my only I guess little detail be; is I thought you were the Borrower and God was the Lender.

Either way though I believe Jesus does good things for you and you are a good young one. Keep sowing seeds of Jesus' goodness little brother. Blessed be the name of the Lord indeed.
 
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I know you don't want arguments little brother, but my only I guess little detail be; is I thought you were the Borrower and God was the Lender.

Either way though I believe Jesus does good things for you and you are a good young one. Keep sowing seeds of Jesus' goodness little brother. Blessed be the name of the Lord indeed.
Again read the principles
 
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Money is NOT the answer but the very reason we see the world the way it is. If you didn't make money or have the right to, THEN YOU WILL ALWAYS BE THE BORROWER AND WILL ALWAYS BE SUBJECT TO THE LENDER! It is ONLY when we stop using all forms of money, give back that which doesn't belong to you and live and work for one another will peace on earth be achieved!
 
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Water lily read prov. 19:17
My precious little brother in Christ, I know your heart is full of love for The Lord and His body. I have spent many hours with you in study and in prayer. I just adore your passion and compassion. So to respect your wishes for no debates on this matter I will not debate it but simply state that I don't agree with this teaching. I have seen this teaching before and in fact my last church gave a similar teaching..that is why I left.

God bless you spiritofelijah. I love you dearly. I pray that we all truly seek the truth with our whole hearts and not just what looks good and pleases the flesh but teaching that truly honors God and His word.
 
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My precious little brother in Christ, I know your heart is full of love for The Lord and His body. I have spent many hours with you in study and in prayer. I just adore your passion and compassion. So to respect your wishes for no debates on this matter I will not debate it but simply state that I don't agree with this teaching. I have seen this teaching before and in fact my last church gave a similar teaching..that is why I left.

God bless you spiritofelijah. I love you dearly. I pray that we all truly seek the truth with our whole hearts and not just what looks good and pleases the flesh but teaching that truly honors God and His word.
You as well and I will simply say the reason I know this teaching is true is because I have seen it work when I operated in the principles it also broke off my doubt in giving so God is Good and I have seen Him fufill this in my life I will never teach a principle unless it works
 
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:) its not a sin to have money God does not intend for his children to be in poverty
 

proverbs35

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You can never "lend" to the Lord. Everything is His. God will never owe a debt especially not to His creation. He's the one who paid my debt.
God is righteous, Holy, sovereign in every single way. God bless.
Whoever is kind to the poor lends to the LORD, and he will reward them for what they have done. Proverbs 19:17
 

jb

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Matt 6v25-34 [AMP]:

Therefore I tell you, stop being perpetually uneasy (anxious and worried) about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink; or about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life greater [in quality] than food, and the body [far above and more excellent] than clothing? Look at the birds of the air; they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father keeps feeding them. Are you not worth much more than they? And who of you by worrying and being anxious can add one unit of measure (cubit) to his stature or to the span of his life? [Ps 39:5-7.] And why should you be anxious about clothes? Consider the lilies of the field and learn thoroughly how they grow; they neither toil nor spin. Yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his magnificence (excellence, dignity, and grace) was not arrayed like one of these. [1 Kings 10:4-7.] But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and green and tomorrow is tossed into the furnace, will He not much more surely clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not worry and be anxious, saying, What are we going to have to eat? or, What are we going to have to drink? or, What are we going to have to wear? For the Gentiles (heathen) wish for and crave and diligently seek all these things, and your heavenly Father knows well that you need them all. But seek (aim at and strive after) first of all His kingdom and His righteousness (His way of doing and being right), and then all these things taken together will be given you besides. So do not worry or be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will have worries and anxieties of its own. Sufficient for each day is its own trouble...

Yahweh Shalom
 
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Romans 11:34-36
 
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Matt 6v25-34 [AMP]:

Therefore I tell you, stop being perpetually uneasy (anxious and worried) about your life, what you shall eat or what you shall drink; or about your body, what you shall put on. Is not life greater [in quality] than food, and the body [far above and more excellent] than clothing? Look at the birds of the air; they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns, and yet your heavenly Father keeps feeding them. Are you not worth much more than they? And who of you by worrying and being anxious can add one unit of measure (cubit) to his stature or to the span of his life? [Ps 39:5-7.] And why should you be anxious about clothes? Consider the lilies of the field and learn thoroughly how they grow; they neither toil nor spin. Yet I tell you, even Solomon in all his magnificence (excellence, dignity, and grace) was not arrayed like one of these. [1 Kings 10:4-7.] But if God so clothes the grass of the field, which today is alive and green and tomorrow is tossed into the furnace, will He not much more surely clothe you, O you of little faith? Therefore do not worry and be anxious, saying, What are we going to have to eat? or, What are we going to have to drink? or, What are we going to have to wear? For the Gentiles (heathen) wish for and crave and diligently seek all these things, and your heavenly Father knows well that you need them all. But seek (aim at and strive after) first of all His kingdom and His righteousness (His way of doing and being right), and then all these things taken together will be given you besides. So do not worry or be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will have worries and anxieties of its own. Sufficient for each day is its own trouble...

Yahweh Shalom
AGREED I seek after the Kingdom :)
 

Billyd

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A little story for you.

Give a hungry man seed and a hoe to plant them. He will throw away the hoe, eat the seed, and be hungry again tomorrow.

Plant the seed, feed the hungry man while they grow, and he will be hungry after a season.

Teach the hungry man how to plant the seed, feed him while they grow, and again he will be hungry after a season.

Teach a man how to harvest seed, plant the seed, and feed him while they grow, and when he harvests them, he will save seed for the future, and not be hungry again.

The blessing is not in his dependence on you for food, it is in seeing him know that he can grow his own food.

I gave a man a car once. He worked for several years, bought a new car and passed the old car on. My gain was being able to bless someone else. Please don't look at what you give as an investment in yourself. Your gift should honor God.
 
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A little story for you.

Give a hungry man seed and a hoe to plant them. He will throw away the hoe, eat the seed, and be hungry again tomorrow.

Plant the seed, feed the hungry man while they grow, and he will be hungry after a season.

Teach the hungry man how to plant the seed, feed him while they grow, and again he will be hungry after a season.

Teach a man how to harvest seed, plant the seed, and feed him while they grow, and when he harvests them, he will save seed for the future, and not be hungry again.

The blessing is not in his dependence on you for food, it is in seeing him know that he can grow his own food.

I gave a man a car once. He worked for several years, bought a new car and passed the old car on. My gain was being able to bless someone else. Please don't look at what you give as an investment in yourself. Your gift should honor God.
O i am joyful in just giving it is the greatest Joy for me i dont give to get :) even if i was to get nothing i would still give and praise Him but i know He is a giving God so i know that i can stand on His promises if i have a need again i had these principles operate in my life !
 
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So when i leave for D.C i only have 90 dollars in my pocket i go. When i get there within 2 days im only down to 40 dollars! Then the next day by the end im up to 140 dollars. By the end of this trip i had a 300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits 70 dollars worth of Books./QUOTE SpiritofElijah

For what shall a man profit if he shall gain the
300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits and 70 dollars worth of Books and loose his own soul, or what shall a rich man give in exchange for his soul.
For where your treasure is there will your heart be also.
 
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So when i leave for D.C i only have 90 dollars in my pocket i go. When i get there within 2 days im only down to 40 dollars! Then the next day by the end im up to 140 dollars. By the end of this trip i had a 300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits 70 dollars worth of Books./QUOTE SpiritofElijah

For what shall a man profit if he shall gain the
300 dollar pair of Jeans a thousand dollars in 3 suits and 70 dollars worth of Books and loose his own soul, or what shall a rich man give in exchange for his soul.
For where your treasure is there will your heart be also.
I may be rich but i have Jesus in my heart :) i seek God not material things but i know God will provide the things in which i need the wealth of the gentiles come to me!