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1 .) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 .) The same was in the beginning with God.
3 .) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 .) In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 .) And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 .) There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 .) The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 .) He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 .) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 .) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 .) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 .) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 .) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 .) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 .) John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 .) And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 .) For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 .) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
19 .) And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 .) And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 .) And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
22 .) Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?
23 .) He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.
24 .) And they which were sent were of the Pharisees.
25 .) And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?
26 .) John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
27 .) He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose.
28 .) These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.
29 .) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
30 .) This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
31 .) And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
32 .) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33 .) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34 .) And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
35 .) Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36 .) And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
37 .) And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.
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1 .) In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 .) The same was in the beginning with God.
3 .) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
4 .) In him was life; and the life was the light of men.
5 .) And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
6 .) There was a man sent from God, whose name was John.
7 .) The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe.
8 .) He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light.
9 .) That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world.
10 .) He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.
11 .) He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
12 .) But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
13 .) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
14 .) And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
15 .) John bare witness of him, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: for he was before me.
16 .) And of his fulness have all we received, and grace for grace.
17 .) For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
18 .) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
19 .) And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem to ask him, Who art thou?
20 .) And he confessed, and denied not; but confessed, I am not the Christ.
21 .) And they asked him, What then? Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not. Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No.
22 .) Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself?
23 .) He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as said the prophet Esaias.
24 .) And they which were sent were of the Pharisees.
25 .) And they asked him, and said unto him, Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not that Christ, nor Elias, neither that prophet?
26 .) John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
27 .) He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose.
28 .) These things were done in Bethabara beyond Jordan, where John was baptizing.
29 .) The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.
30 .) This is he of whom I said, After me cometh a man which is preferred before me: for he was before me.
31 .) And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
32 .) And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
33 .) And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
34 .) And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
35 .) Again the next day after John stood, and two of his disciples;
36 .) And looking upon Jesus as he walked, he saith, Behold the Lamb of God!
37 .) And the two disciples heard him speak, and they followed Jesus.
1 Peter 3:21 and this water symbolizes baptism that now saves you also—not the removal of dirt from the body but the pledge of a clear conscience toward God. It saves you by the resurrection of Jesus Christ,
Isaiah 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
Well, we all know that water doesn't remove the dirt from our soul, but you can still take a shower if you want to, to remove the filth from your body, but it wouldn't do any good for the soul; unless believing that it does, might help.
Isaiah 4:4 The Lord will wash away the filth of the women of Zion; he will cleanse the bloodstains from Jerusalem by a spirit of judgment and a spirit of fire.
Well, we all know that water doesn't remove the dirt from our soul, but you can still take a shower if you want to, to remove the filth from your body, but it wouldn't do any good for the soul; unless believing that it does, might help.
ARTICLE EXCERPT
Water Baptism - What does it symbolize?
According to the Bible, the symbolism of baptism declares that three things happen to believers who are baptized: (1) they die with Christ to their old self; (2) they rise with Christ to become a new creature; and (3) they are incorporated in their new life with a living community which looks for the coming of the Lord (Romans 6:1-11). Contrary to what some denominations teach, it seems obvious that a Christian's baptism must necessarily require a responsible decision to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, and therefore, must be delayed until an age of reason or discretion (knowing right from wrong within God's perspective).
In short, Jesus Christ commands baptism for His followers. Although the act of baptism does not cause eternal salvation, it seems that any believer who refuses baptism should truly examine his or her conversion.
"Then Jesus came to them and said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I will be with you always, to the very end of the age'" (Matthew 28:18-20). - See more at: http://www.allaboutgod.com/water-baptism.htm#sthash.5VL5Bs86.dpuf
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Water Baptism - What does it symbolize?
According to the Bible, the symbolism of baptism declares that three things happen to believers who are baptized: (1) they die with Christ to their old self; (2) they rise with Christ to become a new creature; and (3) they are incorporated in their new life with a living community which looks for the coming of the Lord (Romans 6:1-11). Contrary to what some denominations teach, it seems obvious that a Christian's baptism must necessarily require a responsible decision to accept Jesus Christ as Savior and Lord, and therefore, must be delayed until an age of reason or discretion (knowing right from wrong within God's perspective).
In short, Jesus Christ commands baptism for His followers. Although the act of baptism does not cause eternal salvation, it seems that any believer who refuses baptism should truly examine his or her conversion.
"Then Jesus came to them and said, 'All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore, go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I will be with you always, to the very end of the age'" (Matthew 28:18-20). - See more at: http://www.allaboutgod.com/water-baptism.htm#sthash.5VL5Bs86.dpuf
FOUND HERE:
- www.biblestudy.org/question/what-does-baptism-symbolize.html Cached
When Peter had meant by also, is meaning that it is a part of that help us with our salvation, but not by itself. But it does say it is a symbolic gesture that's lead us on our way. People need to stop trying to find the easy way out or you can say the wide road, because that is a sign of laziness. It is like giving your wife a Love letter for a fallen marriage that you have had someone else that went out of their way to write it for you, but only thing you had did is signed it before handing it to her. So who believe that water Baptism is the only thing that save them, is telling God that you are taking a bath for Him, but really that person is doing it because company is coming over, and so they are just making sure that they are clean before their company has arrives.
Water baptism is not a must. Holy Spirit baptism is a must.
If you are going to use only snippets of scripture you will arrive at an incorrect conclusion. Romans 6 Paul gives an illustration of how water baptism shows a Spiritual truth.
1 Peter 3:21 shows water baptism as a figure of us made clean by God. An answer of a good conscience toward God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
If you are going to use only snippets of scripture you will arrive at an incorrect conclusion. Romans 6 Paul gives an illustration of how water baptism shows a Spiritual truth.
1 Peter 3:21 shows water baptism as a figure of us made clean by God. An answer of a good conscience toward God.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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I don't think anyone can do what you ask! You want all of how God sees baptism, all about how God uses symbols in scripture, and being water is used in baptism it should include all of how God uses our physical water in spirit and truth---all of this in scripture to be copied here without any of our understanding of what that scripture means! People could give you the results of their study of all these things, but if anyone did that you could say it is only opinion.
What you need is a good guide to your scripture study! Also a love of the Lord as first in your life.
What you need is a good guide to your scripture study! Also a love of the Lord as first in your life.
Wow, so to form...........Gave you the Scriptures you asked for........you deny them, you play word games, you either lack the understanding of the Scriptures, or your just "fishing." Either way, it is you who is wasting our time.
Try to be novel...........come out and say what you think...........instead of "fishing."
Hostile? Nah, just really tired of people who want to play games with the Word of God..............sigh.......
Try to be novel...........come out and say what you think...........instead of "fishing."
Hostile? Nah, just really tired of people who want to play games with the Word of God..............sigh.......
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I'm pretty sure 1 Peter 3:21 say baptism now saves you... but maybe you have a different translation ???
And, I'm not using "snippets" of scripture... in fact, I have'nt used ANY scripture at all. I'm simply asking for scripture to back up a widely held belief that was unheard of in the Church until a few hundred years ago.
I have a white board with a long list of scriptural basis for baptism being necessary, and nothing on the opposite side saying it isnt. So, Im looking for a little help.
Again, looking for plain scripture, not your opinion.
And, I'm not using "snippets" of scripture... in fact, I have'nt used ANY scripture at all. I'm simply asking for scripture to back up a widely held belief that was unheard of in the Church until a few hundred years ago.
I have a white board with a long list of scriptural basis for baptism being necessary, and nothing on the opposite side saying it isnt. So, Im looking for a little help.
Again, looking for plain scripture, not your opinion.
