Forgiving Oneself

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Unscriptural...unless you can show me in scripture that it is a true concept...Maybe I'm wrong.
We need to believe the forgiveness Jesus has for us...but 'forgiving oneself'?
 

Dan58

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One might argue that if God forgives the repentant sinner, and if Jesus taught us to forgive a brother if he repents (Luke 17:3), then ought not we forgive ourselves when we repent of our sin? When God forgives us, he remembers our sin no more (Hebrews 8:4). When a person dwells on a sin that they've repented of and a sin that God has blotted out, they are demonstrating a lack of faith in God's ability to forgive them. If God does not condemn us, then why would we condemn ourselves? jmo
 
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Exoaria

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If God does not condemn us, then why would we condemn ourselves?
Probably the best response I've heard to something like this. You've put off the old, and put on the new. You love not your own life unto death. Your sin has nothing to do with you anymore, stop being so self-focused. You weren't forgiven so that you can sit around dwelling on you and your conditions. Your conditions have been dealt with so that the life you might live is for the manifestation of God's glory in the world. How are you going to do that if your concern is whether you should continue to feel pity about your own shortcomings?
 

breno785au

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I have a habit of taking a long time to forgive myself, I tell you it's destructive, a hindrance, unnecessary and everything Dan58 said
 
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Beckster

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When we ask for forgiveness in general, it is usually because we wrong someone. After I had decided to walk away from God and live in sin for a while before hitting rock bottom and coming back, I remember I had wept in my pastor's arms who told me as if God Himself was speaking to me, "Rebecca, you need to forgive yourself. God has. He see's you as whole, pure, and white as snow. It breaks His heart to see you still hurting and feeling ashamed. Let it go and forgive yourself."

In a way, I had wronged myself. I had robbed myself of what God had for me and instead went on a different path. It makes so much sense that (even if it wasn't in scripture) God would ask of us to also forgive ourselves and not hold things against ourselves. It prevents us from receiving His gifts. I remember it took me a while to receive anything good from Him. I would just remember what I had done and say "I don't deserve that. Not after what I had done." God was so gentle and patient as He would often remind me that my slate was wiped clean.

Hilariously, a lot of us actually struggle with this. It is so much harder to forgive oneself than another. And God knows this which is why He is always there to help us and remind us when we decide to pick up the shovel and unearth our past sins for the billionth time, that we need to step back, drop the shovel and take His hand instead.
 
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Raine

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I believe forgiving oneself is a concept about learning to live in the freedom and joy in Jesus Christ. Not so much about the idea that we have the power to forgive. We learn to forgive ourselves, because if we don't, it hinders us from taking a positive step forward and hinders our ability to see ourselves as Christ does. It also teaches us to let things go and to trust God to bring something good from our past mistakes.
 
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Tintin

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Probably the best response I've heard to something like this. You've put off the old, and put on the new. You love not your own life unto death. Your sin has nothing to do with you anymore, stop being so self-focused. You weren't forgiven so that you can sit around dwelling on you and your conditions. Your conditions have been dealt with so that the life you might live is for the manifestation of God's glory in the world. How are you going to do that if your concern is whether you should continue to feel pity about your own shortcomings?
Hey, brother. It's great to see you've returned to CC! I hope you're well. Keep sharing your godly wisdom. :)
 
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oldthennew

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the words 'forgive and forgiveness' have such a holy connotation,
they are words that move us to do extrordinary things.

learning how to use forgiveness can be a long process,
we should be taught this as little children, but many times
we only witness what a real struggle it can be.

one thing we have to realize is that if we don't sincerely forgive
ourselves or others,
we will have the proof manifesting itself in anger and bitterness -
our words and actions tell the tale.

if we don't forgive ourselves, is this essentially saying -
that we are not accepting the free gift of forgiveness from Christ
after our repentance?

are we sometimes the cog in our own wheel?
 
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wordhelpsme

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Is there a scripture that says we should eternally condemn ourselves for our sins.

Forgiving oneself is important to moving forward in God's truth.

To repent and turnaround from our bad acts is important for our forgiveness.

With all the sins we commit through life it would be too heavy a burden for us to bear.

If our loving Creator and others forgive us is it not reasonable to forgive ourselves.

Sinking into despair, self-condemnation opens the way for Satin, who loves to see us in this pitiful state.

Satin, not Jehovah benefits from our being self-condemning. Who wants us happy? Who wants us sad?
 

Patnubay

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Unscriptural...unless you can show me in scripture that it is a true concept...Maybe I'm wrong.
We need to believe the forgiveness Jesus has for us...but 'forgiving oneself'?
There must be a reason why the Bible didn't say anything about forgiving oneself. It may not be necessary. Forgiveness should first come from a brother we offended and then God ( Matthew 5:24 ). Maybe the reason we still feel guilty even after receiving forgiveness is our mistrust on the existence or sincerity of the forgiveness given.
 
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Marian29

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One of the worse enemy is our own minds
 
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Marian29

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You must accept the forgive God gave to you.
 
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Marian29

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The greatest enemy of the restoration can be ourselves. Full restoration can come to the repentant sinner only as hatred to his own person and sometimes paranoid existence are changed by the loving acceptance of God.
 
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Marian29

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Here it goes...

¶ {There is} therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.


Romanos 8:1

No condemnation, so, not even our own condemnations with ourselves.
 
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One of the worse enemy is our own minds
True. There is nothing in scripture that says we can not forgive ourselves for the wrongs we have done.

How can we forgive others who have trespassed against us if we are not first allowed to show ourselves compassion?
It's contrary to the teachings of Christ to think we can not be merciful to our own self.
 

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One might argue that if God forgives the repentant sinner, and if Jesus taught us to forgive a brother if he repents (Luke 17:3), then ought not we forgive ourselves when we repent of our sin? When God forgives us, he remembers our sin no more (Hebrews 8:4). When a person dwells on a sin that they've repented of and a sin that God has blotted out, they are demonstrating a lack of faith in God's ability to forgive them. If God does not condemn us, then why would we condemn ourselves? jmo
We shouldn't condemn ourself but it's on the basis that God has forgiven us. We believe God's truth about ourselves.
 

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I have a habit of taking a long time to forgive myself, I tell you it's destructive, a hindrance, unnecessary and everything Dan58 said
But where in Scripture are we commanded or even urged to forgive ourself?
 

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I guess I'm struggling with this thought.
'Is not the forgiveness God has forgiven us..sufficient?
Is not the core of the problem our unbelief in God's forgiveness to us, and that is why we fail to 'forgive ourselves'?
 

Jackson123

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fell guilty if we guilty is good thing.

If we guilty and not fell guilty, than God will not forgive us.

We must fell guilty when we guilty, and when we ask forgiveness and repent than we have to believe that God forgive us.

Do we have to forget that we were guilty? I don't think so. We remember that we was doing some thing wrong, but we know that God forgive us because we repent and ask for forgiveness.

Do we have to forgive our self?

I don't know if it the right term. We doing something wrong to other than other and God need to forgive us.

If we doing something wrong to our self, do we punish our self? If not why need forgive our self.