WASHING FEET

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jkalyna

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It seems pretty hard for ya'll men to do this. To me it is a submissive thing. LIke preparing the bath, for your husband, or bringing him his slippers, or trimming the feet nails. For women it might be easier, Mary washed Jesus feet with her tears. It would seem unusual for a man to be as a submissive wife, or women, but *I think Jesus is overlooking the part of the flesh, in doing this, as looking at us all of the spirit, to be submissive one to another. He said some pretty strong words, about this, as him being an example, that if your "think" or are the greatest, become as a servant, as we could only truly become his children, if we are as children, and obey our heavenly Father. :) thiiiiii.jpg
 

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The example Jesus gave of the washing of the feet was an act of humility. He told his disciples that they were clean and this maybe a reference that once you confess your sins and accept and sacrifice of the cross you now are indeed, clean. The washing of the feet may be a reference in even if one is born again in the Lord he will still occasionally sin (stumble). As the past sinful life had already been repented a simple contrite acknowledgement of the sin that was committed (washing of the feet) will restore the relationship between the believer and the Lord.
 
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It seems pretty hard for ya'll men to do this. To me it is a submissive thing. LIke preparing the bath, for your husband, or bringing him his slippers, or trimming the feet nails. For women it might be easier, Mary washed Jesus feet with her tears. It would seem unusual for a man to be as a submissive wife, or women, but *I think Jesus is overlooking the part of the flesh, in doing this, as looking at us all of the spirit, to be submissive one to another. He said some pretty strong words, about this, as him being an example, that if your "think" or are the greatest, become as a servant, as we could only truly become his children, if we are as children, and obey our heavenly Father. :) View attachment 87470
I read your posts and I think to myself, yeah, this makes a lot of sense. You write from the softness of your heart and not the hardness of your mind.
 
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jkalyna

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I read your posts and I think to myself, yeah, this makes a lot of sense. You write from the softness of your heart and not the hardness of your mind.
*IT's so nice to hear such words, but Jesus words are even better lol. :) lol Ty you made me laugh. th.jpg
 
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jkalyna

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The example Jesus gave of the washing of the feet was an act of humility. He told his disciples that they were clean and this maybe a reference that once you confess your sins and accept and sacrifice of the cross you now are indeed, clean. The washing of the feet may be a reference in even if one is born again in the Lord he will still occasionally sin (stumble). As the past sinful life had already been repented a simple contrite acknowledgement of the sin that was committed (washing of the feet) will restore the relationship between the believer and the Lord.
DownloadedFile.jpg *I think it funny that one of them said, why just wash my *feet and not my whole body. I wonder if he was kidding.*
 
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View attachment 87472 *I think it funny that one of them said, why just wash my *feet and not my whole body. I wonder if he was kidding.*
I'm not laughing about this, but we travel many difficult roads sometimes, and only the Lord really understands, where we were in a day, week, month, and sometimes under our feet are the torns, and the tistles, that as humans we are upon this earth. To be loved, and to have this done, is a total act of caring in such a truly beautiful way. I agree.*
 

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I'm glad that someone posted this thread. I haven't been in a church that practices this since I was a young teenager. As I remember it (the way the church that my grandmother attended practiced it), a chair was placed at the door with a basin in front of it. As we entered the church, we removed our shoes, sat in the chair, dipped our feet in the water, and the pastor dried them. My grandmother always said that it was a way for the pastor to show that he was a humble servant of the congregation, just as Jesus demonstrated to His disciples. The things that I remember the most was though is that it was one of the few times that the Pastor's sermon was delivered without yelling at the congregation, and getting my backside tanned for commenting on how dirty the water was.

If your church practices foot washing, how does it do it today?

I don't believe that Jesus told us to do this as he did with Holy Communion.
 
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jkalyna

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I'm not laughing about this, but we travel many difficult roads sometimes, and only the Lord really understands, where we were in a day, week, month, and sometimes under our feet are the torns, and the tistles, that as humans we are upon this earth. To be loved, and to have this done, is a total act of caring in such a truly beautiful way. I agree.*
It is like saying. I can't touch physically your heart, but you'll feel it loved this way. They say that all the organs of the body are connected with nerves to the feet. The*Chinese*know the*acupuncture*for the body, and use the feet to cure ailments, they have stone*sandals*that massage the feet. Jesus knew all along, how his Father created us, and how to really shower us with love through humility, a truly beautiful act of love.
 

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View attachment 87472 *I think it funny that one of them said, why just wash my *feet and not my whole body. I wonder if he was kidding.*
NOT really, because the Jews were used to taking ceremonial cleansing baths just outside the Temple, every time they went to the TEMPLE or even many Synagogues. Those bath tubs are called Mikvahs, and that is how the Disciples were able to Baptize 3000 people on the Day of Pentecost without anyone in the Sanhedrin noticing. They did it in plain site where every one was taking the ceremonial cleansing baths.




Modern Day Mikvah

 

VCO

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QUOTE:

Washing the feet was NOT a ritual or ceremony, but rather a daily mundane task every time someone came in the front door. It was usually assigned as one of the duties of the lowliest servant in the household. YES it was an object lesson for us to be willing to take that lowly role, to meet the needs of another. PLUS it was picture prophecy of how HIS BLOOD would wash away our sins (the dirt on the feet).

END QUOTATION..............

In everyday life back then, this was true, and that is why it was such a powerful message/lesson Jesus taught the Disciples....Christian humility......

As for the part in red, you just made that up........
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John 13:10
If these last words of our Lord had any spiritual reference, it is not easy to say what it was. A common opinion is the following: He who is washed—who is justified through the blood of the Lamb, needeth only to wash his feet—to regulate all his affections and desires; and to get, by faith, his conscience cleansed from any fresh guilt, which he may have contracted since his justification.

Adam Clarke's Commentary.
13:9, 10 Now Peter shifted to the other extreme. A minute ago, he was saying, "Never." Now he said, "Wash me all over."On the way back from the public bath, a person's feet would get dirty again. He didn't need another bath but did need to have his feet washed. "He who is bathed needs only to wash his feet, but is completely clean." There is a difference between the bath and the basin. The bath speaks of the cleansing received at the time of one's salvation. Cleansing from the penalty of sin through the blood of Christ takes place only once. The basin speaks of cleansing from the pollution of sin and must take place continually through the Word of God. There is one bath but many foot-washings. "You are clean, but not all of you" means that the disciples had received the bath of regeneration—that is, all the disciples but Judas. He had never been saved.

Believer's Bible Commentary: A Thorough, Yet Easy-to-Read Bible Commentary That Turns Complicated Theology Into Practical Understanding.
JOHN 13:9-10
Petercontinued to miss the spiritual lesson, but he was certain of his desire to be joined to Jesus. Therefore he asked Jesus to wash his hands and head as well as his feet. Jesus answered, A person who has had a bath needs only to wash his feet; his whole body is clean. (Some Gr. mss. omit the words "his feet.") Roman Catholics sometimes have interpreted verse 10 to mean that after infant baptism only penance is needed. A preferable interpretation is that after salvation all one needs is confession of sins, the continual application of Jesus' death to cleanse one's daily sins (cf. 1 John 1:7; 2:1-2). When Jesus added that not every one of you is clean, He was referring to Judas (cf. John 13:11, 18). This suggests that Judas was not converted.

The Bible Knowledge Commentary: An Exposition of the Scriptures by Dallas Seminary Faculty.
Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all [John 13:10].

Now He says, "He that's washed needeth not to be washed." That doesn't make good sense, does it? The reason it doesn't is that He used two different words and, unfortunately, the translators didn't make the distinction (nor do our more recent translations make the distinction), but they are absolutely two different words. He says, "...He that is louo." Louo means "bathed." Nipto is the word translated "wash." "He that is bathed needeth not except to wash his feet."


In those days they went to the public bath for their bathing. Then a man would put on his sandals to come home. In his home was a basin of water for him to wash his feet because they had gotten dirty walking through the streets of the city. Not only was there dirt, but in those days the garbage was thrown into the streets. So even though he had just come from a bath, he had to wash his feet when he entered the house.


Our Lord is teaching that when we came to the Cross, when we came to Jesus, we were washed all over. That is the bath, louo, regeneration. When we walk through this world, we are defiled and get dirty. We become disobedient, and sin gets into our lives. I do not believe that any believer goes through a day without getting just a little dirty. He says that we cannot have fellowship with Him if we are dirty. So the washing of the feet, nipto, is the cleansing in order to restore us to fellowship. "If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us [keeps on cleaning us] from all sin" (1John 1:6-7).


Friend, in order to have our feet washed we must first confess our sin. To confess means to agree with God. It means to say the same thing that God says about our sin. One of the hardest things in the world is to get a saint to admit he is a sinner. Coldness, indifference, lack of love, all are seen by God as sin. If we confess, He is faithful and just to forgive. But that is not all. If you are going to have your feet washed, you must put them into the hands of the Savior. That is obedience. We can't just say, "God forgive me, I did wrong," and then go out and do the same thing all over again. That's not getting your feet into the hands of the Savior.

Thru The Bible with J. Vernon McGee.
JOHN 13:6-10 These proceedings embarrassed all the disciples. While others remained silent, Peter, perhaps on behalf of others (see Matt. 16:13-23), spoke up in indignation that Jesus would stoop so low as to wash his feet. He failed to see beyond the humble service itself to the symbolism of spiritual cleansing involved (v. 7; cf. 1 John 1:7-9). Jesus’ response made the real point of His actions clear: Unless the Lamb of God cleanses a person’s sin (i.e., as portrayed in the symbolism of washing), one can have no part with Him.

13:10
needs only to wash his feet.
The cleansing that Christ does at salvation never needs to be repeated—Atonement is complete at that point. But all who have been cleansed by God’s gracious justification need constant washing in the experiential sense as they battle sin in the flesh. Believers are justified and granted imputed righteousness (Phil. 3:8, 9), but they still need sanctification and personal righteousness (Phil. 3:12-14).

The MacArthur Bible Commentary.

Sorry, but I do not make things up, I study.
 
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Katy-follower

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Not just humility, but you're serving the person in washing their feet. So like Jesus' example we're to serve others.

Can you imagine what the reaction would've been though, having God in the flesh washing your feet?!!

Matthew 20:27-28: And whoever desires to be first among you, let him be your slave— just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life a ransom for many.”
 

john832

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Their feet were dirty and was an object lesson in humility.
Jesus never commanded it although the Brethren Church and perhaps some others practice it.
And yet, Jesus Christ said this...

Joh 13:12 So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am.
Joh 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.

This and just about every other teaching of Christ has been ignored and disparaged by churchianity.
 
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All I know is, it's hard to be spiritual when someone is washing my feet because im ticklish! :)
 

SolidGround

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Many Christians say that the table of communion and water baptism are to be taken as literal commands,
yet reduce the washing of feet to mere allegory...
Terrible hermeneutic.

It was a command, just the same as the others.

Either all are literal,
Or all are allegory,
Or all are both literal AND allegory.

I think the washing of feet is certainly meant to be a tradition of the Church, with a spiritual meaning,
the same as water baptism and taking communion.

Why do we hold two commands as superior to all the others?

The washing of feet is an elementary teaching of the Church, along with repentance and the laying of hands.
Of course it has a spiritual meaning! But being a symbol does not mean that the action is not meant to be followed literally also.
 

SolidGround

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Another thought:
This washing of feet is when the 12 were baptized by Christ.

Christ refers to this washing of feet as having salvational significance, that without it we could have no part in Christ.

Just like immersion of water baptism, the meaning behind the washing of feet is the cleansing of Christ's sacrifice by way of His humility and obedience to the will of the Father.

As a physical command, with spiritual significance, rejecting this ordinance is just being rebellious,
just like Peter was, telling Christ to not wash his feet.
 
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In John 13 we learn that JESUS is teaching regarding WHO HE is and what HIS Ministry pertains.
Joh 13:7 Jesus answered and said unto him, What I do thou knowest not now; but thou shalt know hereafter.
Joh 13:8 Peter saith unto him, Thou shalt never wash my feet. Jesus answered him, If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me.
Joh 13:9 Simon Peter saith unto him, Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head.
Joh 13:10 Jesus saith to him, He that is washed needeth not save to wash his feet, but is clean every whit: and ye are clean, but not all.

As we read further we see how JESUS is showing the disciples how we are to treat one another also notice that HE also is making aware that Judas though is with them he is not one with them he is unclean therefore not Washed by JESUS. We also see that JESUS speaks of HIS SPIRIT being vexed; showing us we too must know those amongst us if they be of GOD or not clean or unclean.
Many see the act of cleaning as JESUS being Humble which HE is but here HE is showing how we know who is of HIM and who is not. Notice now in John 12.

Joh 12:3 Then took Mary a pound of ointment of spikenard, very costly, and anointed the feet of Jesus, and wiped his feet with her hair: and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment.
Joh 12:4 Then saith one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, Simon's son, which should betray him,
Joh 12:5 Why was not this ointment sold for three hundred pence, and given to the poor?
Joh 12:6 This he said, not that he cared for the poor; but because he was a thief, and had the bag, and bare what was put therein.

Blessings!!!!!!!
 

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And yet, Jesus Christ said this...

Joh 13:12 So when He had washed their feet, taken His garments, and sat down again, He said to them, "Do you know what I have done to you?
Joh 13:13 You call Me Teacher and Lord, and you say well, for so I am.
Joh 13:14 If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.

This and just about every other teaching of Christ has been ignored and disparaged by churchianity.

Intrepretation: I took the role of a Servant to take care of a REAL NEED that you had. Therefore you ought to be willing to sacrifice your time and efforts to take care each other's NEEDS.

LOOK at the Depth of meaning you miss, when all you do is look at the surface of the words, instead of searching for the spiritual meanings of the words and WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID.


SUPPORTING VERSES:

Romans 12:13 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Contribute to the needs of the saintsand seek to show hospitality.

2 Corinthians 9:12 (ESV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For the ministry of this service is not only supplying the needs of the saints but is also overflowing in many thanksgivings to God.

1 Corinthians 10:23-24 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor.

John 13:34-36 (HCSB)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] “I give you a new command: Love one another. Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] By this all people will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Romans 12:10 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Show family affection to one another with brotherly love. Outdo one another in showing honor.

2 Corinthians 13:11 (ESV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Finally, brothers, rejoice. Aim for restoration, comfort one another, agree with one another, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.

Galatians 5:13 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

Ephesians 4:32(HCSB)
32 And be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving one another, just as God also forgave you[a] in Christ.



1 John 3:17 (ESV)
But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?
 
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john832

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Intrepretation: I took the role of a Servant to take care of a REAL NEED that you had. Therefore you ought to be willing to sacrifice your time and efforts to take care each other's NEEDS.

LOOK at the Depth of meaning you miss, when all you do is look at the surface of the words, instead of searching for the spiritual meanings of the words and WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID.


SUPPORTING VERSES:

Romans 12:13 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Contribute to the needs of the saintsand seek to show hospitality.

2 Corinthians 9:12 (ESV)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] For the ministry of this service is not only supplying the needs of the saints but is also overflowing in many thanksgivings to God.

1 Corinthians 10:23-24 (NASB)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] All things are lawful, but not all things are profitable. All things are lawful, but not all things edify.
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Let no one seek his own good, but that of his neighbor.

John 13:34-36 (HCSB)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] “I give you a new command: Love one another. Just as I have loved you, you must also love one another.
[SUP]35 [/SUP] By this all people will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another.”

Romans 12:10 (HCSB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Show family affection to one another with brotherly love. Outdo one another in showing honor.

2 Corinthians 13:11 (ESV)
[SUP]11 [/SUP] Finally, brothers, rejoice. Aim for restoration, comfort one another, agree with one another, live in peace; and the God of love and peace will be with you.

Galatians 5:13 (ESV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] For you were called to freedom, brothers. Only do not use your freedom as an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.

Ephesians 4:32(HCSB)
32 And be kind and compassionate to one another, forgiving one another, just as God also forgave you[a] in Christ.



1 John 3:17 (ESV)
But if anyone has the world’s goods and sees his brother in need, yet closes his heart against him, how does God’s love abide in him?
Why do you suppose I missed the meaning?