A Born Again Person Can Not Become Dead OSAS is Biblical
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Well, that is not a denial. You did not say that OSAS proponents do not desire to sin and strive to put away sin so as to please God. Where is the teaching on holy living? Where is the abiding in the goodness of God or Christ? Are you against the righteousness of Christ? Is righteousness a call for only some Christians or all Christians? Do you believe you and or other Christians should live holy or do you think it is better to serve sin? What is better?
I don't have to take it up with Him because His Word has already explained it to me. The angels do not live by sight unseen like mankind does. In other words, angels do not have faith. Man has faith. And it is thru faith that we are saved by grace. If man didn't have faith and they were in the full prescence of God in Heaven like the angels and one third of them rebelled, they would have met the same fate as those angels that rebelled with Lucifer. It has nothing to do with them being different creatures. God loves all beings equally. For God is not a respector of persons.
Lucifer was crazy enough to think he was going to take over. Also, it is not just in you thinking you can harm God but it is about you or someone else in harming others in heaven. For there will be no murderers, rapists, pornographers, thieves, idolaters, or sorcerers in heaven. God is not going to overlook a believers unrepentant sins anymore than he is going to overlook an unbelievers unrepentant sins.
I didn't tip toe around anything. I am telling you that true believers repent of their sins when they slip up on occasion and that they do not stay down in the mud of their sin like an unbeliever (eating the slop with the other pigs). Believers get clean thru confessing their sin and always strive to walk in God's good ways. True believers are not sinning every 5 minutes like an unbeliever. They stay focused on the things of God always and dedicate their lives to the Lord in all they do. Now, if a true believer refuses the conviction of the Holy Spirit to repent of any known sin in their life, then God will with draw His Spirit from that person. But if a believer confesses their sin honestly and desires to walk uprightly with God's help, then God will help that person to stop in their sin. For Paul tells us in Romans 6 that we are no longer slaves to sin. Are you a slave to sin? Do you not want to be a slave to sin any longer? Well, if you don't want to be a slave to sin, then you need to repent, my friend.
I say this not to wound you, but to lead you to the goodness of our Lord Jesus Christ.
To know God's love and to spread that love unto other people.
Lucifer was crazy enough to think he was going to take over. Also, it is not just in you thinking you can harm God but it is about you or someone else in harming others in heaven. For there will be no murderers, rapists, pornographers, thieves, idolaters, or sorcerers in heaven. God is not going to overlook a believers unrepentant sins anymore than he is going to overlook an unbelievers unrepentant sins.
I didn't tip toe around anything. I am telling you that true believers repent of their sins when they slip up on occasion and that they do not stay down in the mud of their sin like an unbeliever (eating the slop with the other pigs). Believers get clean thru confessing their sin and always strive to walk in God's good ways. True believers are not sinning every 5 minutes like an unbeliever. They stay focused on the things of God always and dedicate their lives to the Lord in all they do. Now, if a true believer refuses the conviction of the Holy Spirit to repent of any known sin in their life, then God will with draw His Spirit from that person. But if a believer confesses their sin honestly and desires to walk uprightly with God's help, then God will help that person to stop in their sin. For Paul tells us in Romans 6 that we are no longer slaves to sin. Are you a slave to sin? Do you not want to be a slave to sin any longer? Well, if you don't want to be a slave to sin, then you need to repent, my friend.
I say this not to wound you, but to lead you to the goodness of our Lord Jesus Christ.
To know God's love and to spread that love unto other people.
K
2 Peter 2:20-22
For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. For it would have been better for them never to have known the way of righteousness than after knowing it to turn back from the holy commandment delivered to them. What the true proverb says has happened to them: “The dog returns to its own vomit, and the sow, after washing herself, returns to wallow in the mire.”
This scripture sums it up that once some one escapes the sins of the world through the acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, but are then later in life caught back up in willful sin they are no longer in that saved state.
This scripture can not be about rewards because it says their last state will be worse then their original state. If you claim one can not lose salvation then their ending can not be worse because they would still be in heaven, which is all good.
If you say they were never saved to begin with, then you make the scripture a lie when it says they escaped the defilements of the world through Jesus Christ. Through repentance and acceptance of Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior is the only way to escape the sins/defilements of this world.
The Bible has homonyms within it. Meaning there are words in the Bible that look and sound the same but they do not mean the same thing. God cannot repent. See Numbers 23:19.
So is this a contradiction in the Bible? No, it is not. The repentance that is spoken about by God in Genesis 6:6 is not talking about repentance that man does. It is talking about being grieved or sorrowed in one's heart (Which is one aspect or part of human repentance, but it is not the entirety of true repentance; For Judas was sorrowed over his actions, but he did not repent to God. Instead he committed suicide, which is an unforgivable sin (Because you can't repent of suicide)).
Besides, Jonah clearly states that the people that did repent did in fact turn from their evil ways. Why are you ignoring that verse?
Well, I never said that an unsaved man can turn away from sin. But you seem to be contradicting yourself here, my friend. You say that God works thru us to destroy our sinful tendencies. I agree 100%. That is why it is not salvation by works. God works thru you. It is not you. John 15:5 and 1 Corinthians 15:10 make this fact very clear. But then you turn around and say that if we try to turn away from sin so as to abide with God, then it would be salvation by works. See, Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith, and He saves us both in Justification and in Sanctifcation. See, my friend. You are going to do works regardless. You can either allow the works of God to flow thru you or you can do the works of your other father (the devil). For remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees about how it was their deeds that showed they were not of God? What did Jesus say to those men who did believe on Him in John 8? He said to continue in His Word. He didn't just tell those men to picture him as the Savior in their mind and then live however they like. No, no. Jesus told the woman who was caught in the act of adultery in John 8 to sin no more.
Because Lot repented of his sins. Yes, the Bible does not say he did repent. But the testimony of Scripture lets us know that this is the only conclusion. We see nowhere in the Bible of adult men being forgiven by God without repentance. For it's why Jesus began his ministry with the word, "Repent."
So is this a contradiction in the Bible? No, it is not. The repentance that is spoken about by God in Genesis 6:6 is not talking about repentance that man does. It is talking about being grieved or sorrowed in one's heart (Which is one aspect or part of human repentance, but it is not the entirety of true repentance; For Judas was sorrowed over his actions, but he did not repent to God. Instead he committed suicide, which is an unforgivable sin (Because you can't repent of suicide)).
Besides, Jonah clearly states that the people that did repent did in fact turn from their evil ways. Why are you ignoring that verse?
Well, I never said that an unsaved man can turn away from sin. But you seem to be contradicting yourself here, my friend. You say that God works thru us to destroy our sinful tendencies. I agree 100%. That is why it is not salvation by works. God works thru you. It is not you. John 15:5 and 1 Corinthians 15:10 make this fact very clear. But then you turn around and say that if we try to turn away from sin so as to abide with God, then it would be salvation by works. See, Jesus is the author and finisher of our faith, and He saves us both in Justification and in Sanctifcation. See, my friend. You are going to do works regardless. You can either allow the works of God to flow thru you or you can do the works of your other father (the devil). For remember when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees about how it was their deeds that showed they were not of God? What did Jesus say to those men who did believe on Him in John 8? He said to continue in His Word. He didn't just tell those men to picture him as the Savior in their mind and then live however they like. No, no. Jesus told the woman who was caught in the act of adultery in John 8 to sin no more.
Because Lot repented of his sins. Yes, the Bible does not say he did repent. But the testimony of Scripture lets us know that this is the only conclusion. We see nowhere in the Bible of adult men being forgiven by God without repentance. For it's why Jesus began his ministry with the word, "Repent."
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Is it possible for a Christian to lose salvation?
The short answer to this question is "no." Then why do so many Christians seem to walk away from the faith? Haven't they lost their salvation? Again, no. The simple explanation is that those who walk away were never Christians to begin with. (Full Article)
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Is it possible for a Christian to lose salvation?
The short answer to this question is "no." Then why do so many Christians seem to walk away from the faith? Haven't they lost their salvation? Again, no. The simple explanation is that those who walk away were never Christians to begin with. (Full Article)
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Second, as for the article, it is most disturbing and very misleading. It is saying that to believe we have a license to sin is to deny who we are in Christ. Then it turns around hypocritically and says sin will not cause spiritual death, though. So it is a license to sin. See, when there are no real consequences to sin, then that is exactly what you are going to do. You are going to not repent or confess of your sin and you are going to buy into the lie that all your future sins are forgiven and you do not need to say to God that you are sorry for your sins (Even though the Spirit is weighing heavily upon your heart to repent). I am sorry, my friend. There is no forgiveness without repentance. Yes, Christians are not always going to be perfect. But Christians are not to live in a life full of sin thinking they are forgiven. For if that was the case, then everyone would be saved. For how can a husband who cheats on his wife be forgiven unless he asks her to forgive his transgression? How is one's evil behavior any different with God? Do you remember the first time you repented of your sins when you accepted the Lord? Do remember how free you felt? Did you repent of your sins when you accepted Christ?
I say this because repentance is a foundational teaching of the Bible.
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Did Adam have OSAS?
Or did Adam fall because of his sin?
How can God not be a respector of persons if He punished Adam (Who was a believer in God) and yet He doesn't punish believers today who are rebelling against Him habitually with no real remorse (or desire to stop)?
In other words, OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) is inconsistent with what the Bible teaches.
Or did Adam fall because of his sin?
How can God not be a respector of persons if He punished Adam (Who was a believer in God) and yet He doesn't punish believers today who are rebelling against Him habitually with no real remorse (or desire to stop)?
In other words, OSAS (Once Saved Always Saved) is inconsistent with what the Bible teaches.
Let's take it one example at a time. Let's talk about those widows who have cast off their first faith. Okay, there are two sets of passages in this one example that I had taken from the list that I provided. Okay, lets look at the first passage.
1 Timothy 6:5-7
"Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day. But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless."
Did you catch that? Here above we see a contrast between the widow that is serving God and the widow who is not. For it is saying that the widow who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives. Meaning she is spiritually dead while she is still living physically if she is living in pleasure. Does this mean that OSAS is true unless your a widow who lives in pleasure? I don't think so. The Scriptures say that God is not a respector of persons.
Now, on to our second passage.
1 Timothy 6:11-15
"But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. For some are already turned aside after Satan."
Did you see what it said? In context of the previious verses, it says that we are to refuse in providing financially to young believing widows. Why? Well, if we were to give the younger (believing) widows money they will then begin to wax wanton against Christ (because they are trusting in that money) and they will marry again for the wrong reasons and have damnation casting off their first faith. It then says, some have already turned aside after Satan. Now, lets understand something here. Unbelievers cannot turn aside unto Satan. They are already in Satan's grip and need to be born again spiritually into the Kingdom of God. I cannot depart (turn aside or away from) Houston airport unless I am in Houston airport. Only believers can turn aside after Satan.
Also, these widows are said to have cast off their first faith. You can't cast off something that you don't have. If can't cast off a ball in your hand unless you possess the ball. You have to be in possession of something in order to cast that thing off.
1 Timothy 6:5-7
"Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusteth in God, and continueth in supplications and prayers night and day. But she that liveth in pleasure is dead while she liveth. And these things give in charge, that they may be blameless."
Did you catch that? Here above we see a contrast between the widow that is serving God and the widow who is not. For it is saying that the widow who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives. Meaning she is spiritually dead while she is still living physically if she is living in pleasure. Does this mean that OSAS is true unless your a widow who lives in pleasure? I don't think so. The Scriptures say that God is not a respector of persons.
Now, on to our second passage.
1 Timothy 6:11-15
"But the younger widows refuse: for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; Having damnation, because they have cast off their first faith. And withal they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully. For some are already turned aside after Satan."
Did you see what it said? In context of the previious verses, it says that we are to refuse in providing financially to young believing widows. Why? Well, if we were to give the younger (believing) widows money they will then begin to wax wanton against Christ (because they are trusting in that money) and they will marry again for the wrong reasons and have damnation casting off their first faith. It then says, some have already turned aside after Satan. Now, lets understand something here. Unbelievers cannot turn aside unto Satan. They are already in Satan's grip and need to be born again spiritually into the Kingdom of God. I cannot depart (turn aside or away from) Houston airport unless I am in Houston airport. Only believers can turn aside after Satan.
Also, these widows are said to have cast off their first faith. You can't cast off something that you don't have. If can't cast off a ball in your hand unless you possess the ball. You have to be in possession of something in order to cast that thing off.
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1 Timothy 6:5-7 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
But godliness with contentment is great gain.
For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1 Timothy 6:11-15 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords
Your references not mine.
But godliness with contentment is great gain.
For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out.
1 Timothy 6:11-15 But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness.
Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.
I give thee charge in the sight of God, who quickeneth all things, and before Christ Jesus, who before Pontius Pilate witnessed a good confession;
That thou keep this commandment without spot, unrebukeable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ:
Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords
Your references not mine.
First, you did not address the passages concerning the widows. Second, you didn't actually quote the passages I provided. I mentioned 1 Timothy 6:8-10. Let's look at the last two verses, though.
1 Timothy 6:9-10
"But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
It doesn't get any clearer than that. The love of money is the root of all evil. So does that mean an OSAS proponent can love money and still be saved? Well, I can't see how that is possible if it is the root of all evil. But, to make it unmistakable, the passage continues and says that those that have coveted after money have erred from the faith and pierced themselves thru withh many sorrows. Doesn't sound like such a person is saved to me. So this disproves OSAS.
1 Timothy 6:9-10
"But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows."
It doesn't get any clearer than that. The love of money is the root of all evil. So does that mean an OSAS proponent can love money and still be saved? Well, I can't see how that is possible if it is the root of all evil. But, to make it unmistakable, the passage continues and says that those that have coveted after money have erred from the faith and pierced themselves thru withh many sorrows. Doesn't sound like such a person is saved to me. So this disproves OSAS.
Once saved Always Saved is a moot point and not really worth arguing over, look at it objectively.
OSAS is only used as an excuse by the spiritually dead religious people who call themselves Christians, in order to just continue with thier same lifestyle and habits, but with the peace of mind that they are going somewhere nice when they die
A genuine born again Christian may continue to engage in their sin for some time afterwards, sometimes decades, but Christ and HOly Spirit will continue to work in that persons life to transform them. We all sin, therefore engaging in sin will not condemn you to hell if you are a genuine born again, child of God, we are covered by the Grace of God.
We are Christ's sheep, branded with his mark ,the good great shepherd, he will go that extra mile to find a lost sheep, as he still owns it and will not abandon it.
Preaching that people can loose their salvation brings unnecessary fear and worry into genuine believers lives as it is not true. That is work of Satan, cripple the Christians, the only people who do not care are the spiritually dead religious people.
OSAS is only used as an excuse by the spiritually dead religious people who call themselves Christians, in order to just continue with thier same lifestyle and habits, but with the peace of mind that they are going somewhere nice when they die
A genuine born again Christian may continue to engage in their sin for some time afterwards, sometimes decades, but Christ and HOly Spirit will continue to work in that persons life to transform them. We all sin, therefore engaging in sin will not condemn you to hell if you are a genuine born again, child of God, we are covered by the Grace of God.
We are Christ's sheep, branded with his mark ,the good great shepherd, he will go that extra mile to find a lost sheep, as he still owns it and will not abandon it.
Preaching that people can loose their salvation brings unnecessary fear and worry into genuine believers lives as it is not true. That is work of Satan, cripple the Christians, the only people who do not care are the spiritually dead religious people.
When the son was dead, was lost - was he still his Father's son? That's all I am asking. . . .
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9 God must look at that 'spiritual adoption through faith' as birth. born - gennao - I am only going to use one of the definitions for there are a few but the one I believe fits is: of God making his sons through faith in Christ's works and relates to God making Christ his Son - so that "spiritual adoption through faith" is pretty solid and considered birth. That word "seed" here is sperma - 1) from which a plant germinates, seeds sown, 2) the semen virile - the product of this semen, seed, children, offspring - C. whatever posses vital force of life giving power 1) of divine energy of the Holy Spirit operating within the soul by which we are regenerated. And the word remaineth? is: to remain, abide; sojourn, tarry 2. not to depart, a. to continue to be present b. to be held, to be kept continually B. in reference to time: 1. to continue to be, not to perish, to last, endure Being born again, not of corruptible (perishing) seed but of incorruptible (uncorrupted, not liable to corruption or decay, imperishable) seed - Remember in Genesis 1 how the seed is in the plant itself and the seed produces after its kind? That "incorruptible seed" born within us is after its own kind - i.e. Spirit. It is born of the Spirit and it is Spirit - it is incorruptible. I would say that is pretty stable standing within the family of God.
It seems to me that 1 John 5:4 is saying that those who are born of God overcome the world and the victory that overcomes the world is our faith.
BUT WE ARE NOT OF THEM WHO DRAW BACK UNTO PERDITION, BUT OF THEM THAT BELIEVE TO THE SAVING OF THE SOUL.
They were teaching that the resurrection is past already and overthrowing the faith - in other words introducing things that caused doubt instead of trust, i.e. faith.
CONTEXT: widows. . . . . v5) Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusts in God, and continues in supplications and prayers night and day - Now that she is a widow she can put God first and not have to tend to the affairs of her husband. . . But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. One that does not provide is a denier of the faith and is worse than an infidel - condemned already (John 3:18). But the younger widows refuse for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; having damnation because they have cast off their first faith and withal they learn to be idle wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. Young widows will have the tendency to become "wanton" and cast off their faithfulness in Christ and become v13 - So they need to go ahead and marry, bear children so that none can speak reproachfully against them. This is regarding marriage and widowhood.
Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
"Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck." (1 Timothy 1:19) Thank God I have an anchor!!!!
Hebrews 6:17-19 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast and which entereth into that within the veil;
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. 1 John 3:9 God must look at that 'spiritual adoption through faith' as birth. born - gennao - I am only going to use one of the definitions for there are a few but the one I believe fits is: of God making his sons through faith in Christ's works and relates to God making Christ his Son - so that "spiritual adoption through faith" is pretty solid and considered birth. That word "seed" here is sperma - 1) from which a plant germinates, seeds sown, 2) the semen virile - the product of this semen, seed, children, offspring - C. whatever posses vital force of life giving power 1) of divine energy of the Holy Spirit operating within the soul by which we are regenerated. And the word remaineth? is: to remain, abide; sojourn, tarry 2. not to depart, a. to continue to be present b. to be held, to be kept continually B. in reference to time: 1. to continue to be, not to perish, to last, endure Being born again, not of corruptible (perishing) seed but of incorruptible (uncorrupted, not liable to corruption or decay, imperishable) seed - Remember in Genesis 1 how the seed is in the plant itself and the seed produces after its kind? That "incorruptible seed" born within us is after its own kind - i.e. Spirit. It is born of the Spirit and it is Spirit - it is incorruptible. I would say that is pretty stable standing within the family of God.
It seems to me that 1 John 5:4 is saying that those who are born of God overcome the world and the victory that overcomes the world is our faith.
BUT WE ARE NOT OF THEM WHO DRAW BACK UNTO PERDITION, BUT OF THEM THAT BELIEVE TO THE SAVING OF THE SOUL.
They were teaching that the resurrection is past already and overthrowing the faith - in other words introducing things that caused doubt instead of trust, i.e. faith.
CONTEXT: widows. . . . . v5) Now she that is a widow indeed, and desolate, trusts in God, and continues in supplications and prayers night and day - Now that she is a widow she can put God first and not have to tend to the affairs of her husband. . . But if any provide not for his own, and specially for those of his own house, he has denied the faith, and is worse than an infidel. One that does not provide is a denier of the faith and is worse than an infidel - condemned already (John 3:18). But the younger widows refuse for when they have begun to wax wanton against Christ, they will marry; having damnation because they have cast off their first faith and withal they learn to be idle wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. Young widows will have the tendency to become "wanton" and cast off their faithfulness in Christ and become v13 - So they need to go ahead and marry, bear children so that none can speak reproachfully against them. This is regarding marriage and widowhood.
Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.
"Holding faith, and a good conscience; which some having put away concerning faith have made shipwreck." (1 Timothy 1:19) Thank God I have an anchor!!!!
Hebrews 6:17-19 Wherein God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the immutability of his counsel, confirmed it by an oath: That by two immutable things, in which it was impossible for God to lie, we might have a strong consolation, who have fled for refuge to lay hold upon the hope set before us: Which hope we have as an anchor of the soul, both sure and stedfast and which entereth into that within the veil;