Here is another passage for the law/sabbath keepers to explain away........

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The Law keepers do not recognize the Council of Jerusalem (recorder in the book of Acts). Why this satanic stubbornness?
 
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JesusIsAll

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??? Where did I say I keep the jewish Sabbath? Come on guys, if you can't understand a comment with a limited number of words how can you pretend to understand the Word of God?
Why do you interfere in a discussion if you have no idea what is being discussed? Do you expect me to just repeat (for you) everything what I wrote on this thread?
You said you keep some sabbath, somewhere, I saw it. Do I stand corrected you don't keep the sabbath, which is, in the Old Testament, Friday evening until Saturday evening? This is THE weekly sabbath. Okay? Otherwise, you esteem some other day. But let's forget this, then. Your answer was non-responsive. Again, exactly what is the dire, from Satan, matter you accuse somebody of advocating?
 
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You do realize that every comment makes sense in a context (that you read, not just see).
...read post 221.
Okay, I found what I saw, and you keep a sabbath. I only know of one sabbath, myself, that of the Old Testament, and it fell from my memory your mention of Sunday, but here's you,

"I keep God's Sabbath. Why you say I don't? Only I don't keep it on Saturday (which is the day jews kept Sabbath as a reminder of how God helped them out of the Egyptian slavery), but on Sunday."

Now, I have no idea where the sabbath was changed to Sunday, the sabbath redefined in Christianity, fear you can't demonstrate this. Sabbaths, weekly and otherwise, are Old Testament phenomenon of the law. But, again, so what's Satanic going on here? I'm just not seeing it, that's all, and this is a strong accusation from you against others, which ostensibly is saying only you are, therefore, so holy, to so damn others. I like to know just who is saying what.

Again, what has somebody said that is promulgating the Satanic? Do you not see this is as if calling somebody Satan, inspired of Satan, how terrible a slander this is, if you can't answer this question, quote somebody advocating something Satanic? Just saying, well, they don't seem to line up with Acts doesn't cut it! Can't you see this?
 
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The Law keepers do not recognize the Council of Jerusalem (recorder in the book of Acts). Why this satanic stubbornness?
Do you not keep the Law? Are you saying that you do not love? Why this stubbornness to follow God's will?
 
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Put it this way. If you can't say exactly what it is somebody said that's advocating for Satan, why wouldn't one conclude you may be the slanderer? You don't go around saying, "Well, so and so doesn't agree with the Bible!", call them Satanic and leave it there. Again, I can't see anybody being Satanic, except somebody perhaps making a false accusation. Tell you what, tell me who the user is with horns, and I'll seek to ascertain if they're Satanic, all by myself, okay?
 
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Add to that having error is not being Satanic, or we are all Satanic, I know this would make me so, and, as hard as it is to believe, maybe you, too? I also know a lot of people have been tortured and murdered over the ages for such claims, by some very vile accusers, in such as the Roman so-called church.
 
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Put it this way. If you can't say exactly what it is somebody said that's advocating for Satan, why wouldn't one conclude you may be the slanderer? You don't go around saying, "Well, so and so doesn't agree with the Bible!", call them Satanic and leave it there. Again, I can't see anybody being Satanic, except somebody perhaps making a false accusation. Tell you what, tell me who the user is with horns, and I'll seek to ascertain if they're Satanic, all by myself, okay?
...unbelievable.
 
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Yes, exactly so, that you can throw around accusations of Satan inspiring people, and have one snide word to answer for yourself.

Matthew 7:3-5 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.

By the way, there is no "God's Sabbath," Sunday sabbath in the Bible. Saying something is that's not, while thumping the Bible in the vaguest of ways, isn't that within your parameters of what you're saying is Satanic? QED
 
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What does the Christian Law fulfill?
Seems to me all of God's Word.
Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
 
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What does the Christian Law fulfill?
It puts you in relation with God. You get baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and you receive Christ in your heart (Galatians 3:27); you are born of water and spirit (like Christ said we must be). You are now a christian, you have become part of the Body of Christ. You participate in the life of the Church (a theanthropic organism) and share in the Life of the Holy Trinity through the Holy Mysteries (Holy Eucharist, Baptism, Marriage etc.).

Church prepares us for the Kingdom of God, which we wait and long for; we have the Holy Spirit to comfort our waiting for the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. In Church we pre-taste heaven because in heaven every need that we have will be replaced by God: He will be our food, our clothes, our shelter, He will be everything for us. The Holy Mysteries and the Church make holy (through the participation of the Holy Spirit) our most human needs by giving to them a spiritual meaning: baptism would be the equivalent of washing our bodies, but it is not for cleansing of the body, but of the soul. Holy Eucharist is our spiritual food, marriage is for salvation (and not for satisfaction of our passions) etc.

So, the Christian Church has an eschatological purpose: that of preparing us for the real Life. This is what the Christian law fulfills.
 
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Seems to me all of God's Word.
Romans 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.
And if love is fulfilling the Law, then it is the Law which is in need of being fulfilled. What Law, you might ask? The Law which has always been God's eternal Law: do no evil (harm) to God or another and that is the written definition of 'love'.
 
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It puts you in relation with God. You get baptized in the name of the Father, of the Son and of the Holy Spirit and you receive Christ in your heart (Galatians 3:27); you are born of water and spirit (like Christ said we must be). You are now a christian, you have become part of the Body of Christ. You participate in the life of the Church (a theanthropic organism) and share in the Life of the Holy Trinity through the Holy Mysteries (Holy Eucharist, Baptism, Marriage etc.).


Church prepares us for the Kingdom of God, which we wait and long for; we have the Holy Spirit to comfort our waiting for the second coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. In Church we pre-taste heaven because in heaven every need that we have will be replaced by God: He will be our food, our clothes, our shelter, He will be everything for us. The Holy Mysteries and the Church make holy (through the participation of the Holy Spirit) our most human needs by giving to them a spiritual meaning: baptism would be the equivalent of washing our bodies, but it is not for cleansing of the body, but of the soul. Holy Eucharist is our spiritual food, marriage is for salvation (and not for satisfaction of our passions) etc.

So, the Christian Church has an eschatological purpose: that of preparing us for the real Life. This is what the Christian law fulfills.
What does the Christian Law fulfill?
 
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What does the Christian Law fulfill?
It puts you in communion with God!!!! It leads you to say "it is Christ that is living, not me!"
if you are in communion with God you don't die for He IS Life. If you separate yourself from Him, you die, not because He punishes you, but because you go away from Life.
 

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And if love is fulfilling the Law, then it is the Law which is in need of being fulfilled. What Law, you might ask? The Law which has always been God's eternal Law: do no evil (harm) to God or another and that is the written definition of 'love'.
Living by the Spirit has nothing to do with observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years!

galatians 5
explain it simply to the point.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Galatians 5:13-14

For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."


God Bless

sorry for using big letters .


 
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Romans 14:5-6 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days.

Colossians 2:6-8 As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving. Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.

Galatians 2:4-5 And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty which we have in Christ Jesus, that they might bring us into bondage: to whom we gave place by subjection, no, not for an hour; that the truth of the gospel might continue with you.

Galatians 4:9-11 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.
 
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Living by the Spirit has nothing to do with observing sabbath,special days and months, and seasons and years!

galatians 5
explain it simply to the point.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Galatians 5:13-14

For you were called to freedom, brethren; only do not turn your freedom into an opportunity for the flesh, but through love serve one another.For the whole Law is fulfilled in one word, in the statement, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF."


God Bless

sorry for using big letters .


If you would, notice that I was pointing to the Law from Christ. If one is living by the Law from the Spirit, then he is walking according to God's known Will and thus, fulfilling God's Law.
 
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It puts you in communion with God!!!!
How does the Christian Law put one in communion with God if not that it fulfills what He desires us to do as those who follow Him? And that is, to fulfill His Law through Love.

It leads you to say "it is Christ that is living, not me!"
You and I both would agree that Christ who is living inside would be fulfilling God's Will.

if you are in communion with God you don't die for He IS Life. If you separate yourself from Him, you die, not because He punishes you, but because you go away from Life.
And thus, we remain in communion with Him by staying in the Light and we stay in the Light as He is in the Light by Loving and Loving fulfills God's Law He has given to us in words which describes the attributes of how He defines that love.