Who told you the Bible was God's word ?

[IAm3rd]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible. Why do you accept their decisions ?

 

[Jason0047]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible. Why do you accept their decisions ?

Not too long ago, I created a thread of a list of Biblical Evidences that support the divinity of God's Word proving it to be unlike any other book (i.e. collection of manuscripts) in History. In this first post (within the following thread link below), I included two links after my list of 20 Biblical Evidences. There is some really great evidences in those two links.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...cal-evidences-supporting-truth-gods-word.html

In addition, check out Post #3 within that thread as well. There is a video on one of the evidences and then a link to a cool flash animation presentation on the origin of the Chinese language in relation to the Bible. And there is much much more where that came from, for sure.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...s-supporting-truth-gods-word.html#post1640239

Also, check out Post #5, too.

http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...s-supporting-truth-gods-word.html#post1640244

You are in for the ride of your life if you start down this road of investigating the divinity of the Scriptures.

Anyways, may God bless you, and please be well, my friend.

 

[Deadtosin]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible. Why do you accept their decisions ?

God told me it is His Word.

I did not become a christian because of the bible. Nor did I become a christian because of a preacher. A friend and I were blinded on the side of the road by a homeless man dressed like an apostle. The words he spoke just before we were blinded were "Thus says the Lord God" clearly he was referencing the Hebrew God of the bible.

as far as which books should or should not be in the bible I guess that's a little more complicated. The book of Enoch and the book of Jasher are both referenced in the bible. But then again, are the books we have today even the same books they actually referenced? I don't know, but it doesn't really matter. We can read them anyway. Some of the ancient writings are definitely not the Word of God and should not be placed in the bible. One friend of mine tried to convince me that if we accepted any ancient writing we had to accept all. He suggested I read the book of Judas. I read it, and he was wrong. That was DEFINITELY not inspired by God.

 

[FireHeart]

Honestly thats just what I grew up hearing the bible called, it wasnt until I was saved and got to know God I saw the bible as it truly was, it really is his word and holy spirit inspired as I have seen the proof of it many times in my faith. But its a fascinating book, it seems to have layers upon layers of secrets that are hidden from many that only God can reveal

 

[Elin]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible.
Why do you accept their decisions ?

Because I believe in God's sovereign superintending providential preservation of God's word.

It's a matter of faith, as are all saving matters.

 

[JesusIsAll]

[h=2]Who told you the Bible was God's word ?[/h]
Why, the Bible, silly goosies!

2 Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness.

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

I've always also believed the Creator of the universe can probably write a reliable book.

 

[crossnote]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible. Why do you accept their decisions ?

Which of the early Fathers continued with Jesus for three years of His ministry? Most of the writers of the NT were disciples of Christ or fellow workers alongside the Apostles after the resurrection e.g. Luke. That leaves only Paul who received Peter's stamp of approval in ...

2 Peter 3:15-16 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood, which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.


Now much of the bible was written under Israel's theocracy and Jesus and the Apostles quoted often from it. It was this OT that most the Church worked from and any 'new' revelation had better be in line with it; see Acts 17:11...

Acts 17:11 These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Because I believe in God's sovereign superintending providential preservation of God's word. It's a matter of faith, as are all saving matters.

Well said, most assuredly. It actually seems silly to think, on the one hand we have inspired scripture, are instructed to learn from scripture, on the other hand the Lord allows His word to be corrupted such that no translation of purity exists. The Lord tells us we must seek and obey truth, then that truth be lost, with all creation under the supervision of Almighty God? In other words, tell us to pay attention to all scripture, without all scripture being truth? The Lord can create the heavens and the earth, create life, raise the dead, but can't see to a reliable book? Just the notion seems so ridiculous to me. I couldn't have faith in and trust a God I couldn't also trust to competently write a book, and perhaps it's trying to cast such doubt of the Holy Bible the devil is really up to?

 

[JaumeJ]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible. Why do you accept their decisions ?

Faith tells me the Word of God is the Bible, however the Holy Spirit convinces me daily since He entered into my heart. I believe this is true of all who believe. God bless you and hold you always in Jesus Christ, amen.

 

[IAm3rd]

Interesting responses.

So it sounds like you all believe that God was guiding the men who made the decisions on which books belonged... Yet here is the thing : The Bible that you are most likely talking about contains 7 less books that the original Bible.
Think about this... you cannot find a single Bible in the entire history of Christianity prior to a few hundred years ago that didn't have 73 books/epistles.

So, the question becomes, If God had his hand in guiding those men in the beginning, who had the authority to remove them ?

Surely God did not suddenly reveal the true canon just recently... or change his mind.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Faith tells me the Word of God is the Bible, however the Holy Spirit convinces me daily since He entered into my heart. I believe this is true of all who believe. God bless you and hold you always in Jesus Christ, amen.

This is true of the Holy Spirit, but it's also always seemed to me the Lord didn't tell us to check our brains at the door, common sense and reason. I could see people wondering whether God can reverse creation, make time go backwards, or duplicate complex fabrications of men out of nothing, like a jumbo jet or super computer, things we have no evidence of or just some slight indication in theology, things we must fall back on faith that, yes, to God, all things are possible, without showing He has ever done such things. Some things are pure faith matters. But question whether He can ensure we have a reliable book He commands us to pay close attention to? This defies all common sense and reason, to me is just a silly argument.

 

[Powemm]

God speaks to me in his own language and shows me things as he wants me to see them.. he will speak to us just as he did to everyone he spoke to in the bible. We just look at" their relationship" with him instead of one " we can have"with him ourselves, by tue good grace of what he did fornus so we can...Its personal...listening and asking him questions... humbling and quieting ourselves as we approach him... thanking him in everything...
im glad you asked this question... because when I started reading the bible I thought... "these people didnt have a book , or anything" , so where did their inspiration to write what was written come from... from whom did they recieve ? . from that point i thought... im reading what god has already done in a different era a different time a different place... god is here in this place "now"and I can have a relationship and write what god is doing here now just like they did then... I keep wondering... are we subjected to the bible to keep our own relationship with god from developing? There are so many people in the bible none the same, all used in different ways and instead of looking at how god individually created each of us for his own purpose we keep comparing who we are with what he already created. My god is huge, his ideas are original... I mean just look at everything in the world..new things are always popping up at warp speed... are we limiting god by our limited thinking... or are we enlarging "his" territory "knowing" he can manifest something greater in who he has created us to be... im having a hard time wrapping my mind around a book written that long ago that we are to be exactly like the people in it... we are always comparing instead of allowing god to manifest himself what he is doing "today" . We are missing today keeping our eyes locked on years already passed. Im excited about what god is doing, today he is with us, today he is walking and talking with us, today is his hour his second his moment... the question I ask myself is... how well am I walking with him in it

 

[IAm3rd]

BUMPING THE QUESTION...

Interesting responses.

So it sounds like you all believe that God was guiding the men who made the decisions on which books belonged... Yet here is the thing : The Bible that you are most likely talking about contains 7 less books that the original Bible.
Think about this... you cannot find a single Bible in the entire history of Christianity prior to a few hundred years ago that didn't have 73 books/epistles.

So, the question becomes, If God had his hand in guiding those men in the beginning, who had the authority to remove them ?

Surely God did not suddenly reveal the true canon just recently... or change his mind.

 

[Jason0047]

Interesting responses.

So it sounds like you all believe that God was guiding the men who made the decisions on which books belonged... Yet here is the thing : The Bible that you are most likely talking about contains 7 less books that the original Bible.
Think about this... you cannot find a single Bible in the entire history of Christianity prior to a few hundred years ago that didn't have 73 books/epistles.

So, the question becomes, If God had his hand in guiding those men in the beginning, who had the authority to remove them ?

Surely God did not suddenly reveal the true canon just recently... or change his mind.

In the time of the New Testament, Greek was the world language (i.e. Hence why the New Testament was written in Greek). English did not become a world language yet until recent years. So the 1611 King James was not the perfectly preserved Word of God for our world yet. God still had His Word perfectly preserved in the Latin manuscripts (Not the corrupt Latin Vulgate) at that time. God started a process or put the ball into motion so as to provide His Word in English. But I do not believe that process was finished until 1769. For there was no standard of spelling yet during the 1600's. The printing process had not yet been perfected yet. They also did not remove the Apocrypha officially until 1769. Also, those true Christians who lived during the time of the 1600's who could read the 1611 original, knew that the Apocrypha was not a part of the original cannon. So before 1769, the perfect Word existed in the manuscripts in Latin. Before the Latin manscripts, they perfectly existed in the Greek manuscripts. But you can actually prove the KJV is divinely inspired, though. One simple easy method if you are in doubt. Read it and study it and do your own homework as to how it is divine. Trust me, once you start down that path way, you will be amazed. The layers upon layers that is within God's Word is astonishing to say the least. Every letter, and number is there by design and you can easily see that if you investigate it for yourself. But if you just doubt God's Word, and fold your arms and say "no." Then your never going to know.

 

[GodIsSalvation]

BUMPING THE QUESTION...

Interesting responses.

So it sounds like you all believe that God was guiding the men who made the decisions on which books belonged... Yet here is the thing : The Bible that you are most likely talking about contains 7 less books that the original Bible.
Think about this... you cannot find a single Bible in the entire history of Christianity prior to a few hundred years ago that didn't have 73 books/epistles.

So, the question becomes, If God had his hand in guiding those men in the beginning, who had the authority to remove them ?

Surely God did not suddenly reveal the true canon just recently... or change his mind.

If you are referring to the books of Tobit, Maccabees, Judith, Sirach, etc. These 7 books are actually still found in the Catholic version of the Bible. If I am not incorrect they were not removed until Martin Luther.

 

[Jason0047]

If you are referring to the books of Tobit, Maccabees, Judith, Sirach, etc. These 7 books are actually still found in the Catholic version of the Bible. If I am not incorrect they were not removed until Martin Luther.

They are still in the Catholic Bibles because the Catholic religion is corrupt. It is obvious just by looking at the evils that take place within it. But see, people like to have the comfort that there is a God, but they really do not want to get too close to Him and have a real living relationship with Him. That is what the Catholic religion and many other false churches provide. You can worship a God of your own imagining and also worship yourself as your own god. But it doesn't work like that, though.

 

[Jason0047]

Also, lets understand something here. Tons of people do not care to convince the Flat Earth Society that the Earth is not flat. If you are atheist or agnostic, then why try to convince others there is no God or that the Bible is true? If it really is not true, then you wouldn't waste your time in debating it anymore than you would want to debate endlessly about how the Earth is round with flat Earth folks. You know God and His Word are true deep down. If it wasn't. Then it would not effect you emotionally in any way in debating it. I know. I used to be an atheist. I remember getting really frustrated and upset in arguing how there was no God. But you know what? God had other plans for my life. He convinced me otherwise; And I glad I repented of my sins and accepted Jesus Christ. For before I was blind. Now I can see. I am hoping you will come to do the same, so that you can see, too.

 

[twotwo]

So, who told you the Bible was God's word ? And why did you believe it ?

There were many early writings Early Christian Writings: New Testament, Apocrypha, Gnostics, Church Fathers , so... somebody decided to choose which ones were and were not going to be in the Bible. Why do you accept their decisions ?

Excellent question!

It is a certainty that the bible is a collection of books written by people who lived in quite different cultures.

It is a certainty that the bible provides significant insights on the societies and customs of these old epochs.

Everything else is pure speculation!

 

[IAm3rd]

They are still in the Catholic Bibles because the Catholic religion is corrupt. It is obvious just by looking at the evils that take place within it. But see, people like to have the comfort that there is a God, but they really do not want to get too close to Him and have a real living relationship with Him. That is what the Catholic religion and many other false churches provide. You can worship a God of your own imagining and also worship yourself as your own god. But it doesn't work like that, though.

Can the same not be said for protestants ? The Church is made up of sinners... so, it is a mistake to judge "a church" based on the actions of its members.

So, based on your response you believe that the Word of God as contained in the Bible was not perfected until 1769. Yet, since you are obviously protestant you hold that the Bible is the final christian authority...
So, what then ? The faithful have not had a perfect final authority for the first 1769 years ? God left His faithful without a perfect guide ?
sounds a bit far fetched

 

[GodIsSalvation]

They are still in the Catholic Bibles because the Catholic religion is corrupt. It is obvious just by looking at the evils that take place within it. But see, people like to have the comfort that there is a God, but they really do not want to get too close to Him and have a real living relationship with Him. That is what the Catholic religion and many other false churches provide. You can worship a God of your own imagining and also worship yourself as your own god. But it doesn't work like that, though.

Eh, I am more of the opinion that the Catholics may be one of the few denominations that is actually biblically Christian, especially in this day and age. Though just to note, I am not a Catholic, nor have I ever been invited to attend a Catholic church or function.