Embryonic Stem Cell Research

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What do you think of embryonic stem cell research?
 

dscherck

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Well, it involves killing human embryoes so that's not good. Plus it has not been proven as effective as adult stem cell treatments. So I am of the opinion that it's not really a good thing at all.
 
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I don't know much about it. I wasn't 100% sure if it involved killing embryos or not. If it doesn't kill or harm them then it's cool, but if it does then I'm against it.
 
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I don't know much about it. I wasn't 100% sure if it involved killing embryos or not. If it doesn't kill or harm them then it's cool, but if it does then I'm against it.
My understanding is that it does kill the embryos.
 
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Adult stem cell research is the only kind that has actually produced promising results. It does not carry with it the moral dilemma or stigmatization. Embryonic stem cells harvested from chord blood is okay. But there should be no destruction of an embryo for that is abortive.. ie, murder on the innocent.

To give one's life for another is one thing. To take a life for one's self when they are not threatening you is another.
 
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Embyonic stem cell research largely involves the use of embryos created for fertilty purposes and then disposed of. I oppose it for several reasons, one of which is that I think we play God in the area of medicine. To create human life artificially only to destroy it is at least grusome and at most a danger to our souls.
 
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Embyonic stem cell research largely involves the use of embryos created for fertilty purposes and then disposed of. I oppose it for several reasons, one of which is that I think we play God in the area of medicine. To create human life artificially only to destroy it is at least grusome and at most a danger to our souls.
yes, and it is unneccessary - it is possible to get stem cells from placentas

some researchers often misrepresent the options or the expected benefits for their own reasons

1 to get funding
2 to do their own research on their own terms - There is a race on to create the first human clone - they are after prestige
 

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We have all the stem cells we need for reserch and use from cord and adult cells.
Embronic reserch is simply a way for abortion to give itsself a positive or approved acceptance.
God bless, pickles
 
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It's seem like as long as something is scientifically possible it is suddenly seen as morally acceptable :S

I don't know a whole lot about this, but growing stem cells into needed cells (ex bone marrow) I think is OK, but other sub branches of these things seem to be more... woolly
 
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I like the idea of embyronic stem cell research, in that it can bring cures for many diseases that are so far uncurable. On the other hand I find the bible teaches that life begins at conception. I do find a Christian's reliance upon medicine and doctors in the name of God (aka "God gave us doctors"), but rejection of embyronic research (aka "God did not give us embyronic stem cell research") to be a little hypocritical.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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I like the idea of embyronic stem cell research, in that it can bring cures for many diseases that are so far uncurable. On the other hand I find the bible teaches that life begins at conception. I do find a Christian's reliance upon medicine and doctors in the name of God (aka "God gave us doctors"), but rejection of embyronic research (aka "God did not give us embyronic stem cell research") to be a little hypocritical.
I believe that God gave us the gift of science, including medicine. But God places boundaries. At one time the Oath that doctors took was a recognition of that.
"I will apply dietic measures for the benefit of the sick according to my ability and judgment; I will keep them from harm and injustice.
I will neither give a deadly drug to anybody if asked for it, nor will I make a suggestion to this effect. Similarly I will not give to a woman an abortive remedy. In purity and holiness I will guard my life and my art.
I will not use the knife, not even on sufferers from stone, but will withdraw in favor of such men as are engaged in this work.
Whatever houses I may visit, I will come for the benefit of the sick, remaining free of all intentional injustice, of all mischief and in particular of sexual relations with both female and male persons, be they free or slaves.
What I may see or hear in the course of treatment or even outside of the treatment in regard to the life of men, which on no account one must spread abroad, I will keep myself holding such things shameful to be spoken about.
If I fulfill this oath and do not violate it, may it be granted to me to enjoy life and art, being honored with fame among all men for all time to come; if I transgress it and swear falsely, may the opposite of all this be my lot."
I think that medicine has wandered outside of the moral boundaries that God would set for it. Abortion is not the only example of this.
 
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Is it Christian to impose a certain view on non-christians that would prevent people obtaining the medical help and cures they need?
 
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charisenexcelcis

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Is it Christian to impose a certain view on non-christians that would prevent people obtaining the medical help and cures they need?
If the benefit is at the cost of humanity's soul, yes. There are worse things that sickness or even death.
 
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greatkraw

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Is it Christian to impose a certain view on non-christians that would prevent people obtaining the medical help and cures they need?

As I said in an earlier post MS dont believe their propoganda

there are acceptable sources of stem cells - they got their own agenda
 
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I dont think it's compassionate or christian to prevent medical help to those who need it , particularly non-christians, on the grounds of a christian viewpoint that no body can really backup with hard evidence (that the soul starts at conception) anyway.
 

pickles

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I dont think it's compassionate or christian to prevent medical help to those who need it , particularly non-christians, on the grounds of a christian viewpoint that no body can really backup with hard evidence (that the soul starts at conception) anyway.
Mahogony, Because I believe by the word that life begins at conception, I could never support embronic stem cell reserch.
Again as said before there are plenty of cells available from adult and cord cells. The need for baby cells is a falsehood.
As to denying cures to those that hope for this?
My hubby could be cured of a rare form of diabetes.
My daughter could be cured of a genetic delition.
But we would never accept treatment from aborted or unused embrios. To us it would be a blasphamy against God.
I know many put their hope in such cures, but true reserch has shown that the possabuilitys are limited.
I would not force my belief on another.
But to support is to wittness to a wrong in the sight of God.
To many are willing to sell their souls for a cure.
What witness do we give if we approve.
I will not condem any person that makes this choice.
But I will always stand in faith of what Our Lord God asks.
God bless, pickles
 
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Why can't researchers use adult stem cells instead?

Studies using adult stem cells are under way. The adaptability of adult cells and their application to treatments remains to be determined. Researchers believe that adult stem cells may not be as versatile and durable as embryonic stem cells are. Adult stem cells may not be able to be manipulated to produce all cell types, which limits how they can be used to treat diseases, and they don't seem to have the same ability to multiply that embryonic stem cells do. They're also more likely to contain abnormalities due to environmental hazards, such as toxins, or from errors acquired by the cells during replication.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/stem-cells/CA00081/NSECTIONGROUP=2
 
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worldlover

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I don't know how they do it but if it involves killing, i'll definitely oppose it.
 
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