Catholic vs Christianity

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Jruiz

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This is not to bash Catholics! What are some of the teachings in Catholicism that are differant than Christianity? I personally don't Beleive in praying to Mother Mary, don't Beleive in purgatory and don't really like the idea of organized religion...
 
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Problematic is it isn't Catholicism vs. Christianity, since there are multiple Christian denominations that share many if not most of Catholic doctrine, such as the Anglicans, Coptics, and the Orthodox, plus varying similarities with Methodism and Lutheranism.

However, more to your question. You've hit three of the most talked about differences between Catholicism and Evangelical Christianity. Though, the biggest difference between Catholicism and the Protestants is Sola Fide (Faith Alone) and Faith + Works. Most will add Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone), but there are multiple Protestant churches that don't teach Sola Scriptura, though most of those are either Anglican or Non-Denominational.

The rest of our differences would be easier to smooth over than those two major differences of Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura, which Catholics, like myself, don't agree with.
 

sacraig67

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This could actually be a huge discussion. The reason I say this is because are we looking at a "religious" point or a "theological" point. The subject of theology is God the study of religion is man. God's relationship to man or man's relationship to God (so to speak). From both views there are some differences. Now I am not Catholic nor will I claim to know all about Catholicism. I follow Reformed theology but if things can remain civil here we could all learn something.
 
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IAm3rd

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Catholics ARE Christian... ( sigh )
 
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Problematic is it isn't Catholicism vs. Christianity, since there are multiple Christian denominations that share many if not most of Catholic doctrine, such as the Anglicans, Coptics, and the Orthodox, plus varying similarities with Methodism and Lutheranism.

However, more to your question. You've hit three of the most talked about differences between Catholicism and Evangelical Christianity. Though, the biggest difference between Catholicism and the Protestants is Sola Fide (Faith Alone) and Faith + Works. Most will add Sola Scriptura (Scripture Alone), but there are multiple Protestant churches that don't teach Sola Scriptura, though most of those are either Anglican or Non-Denominational.

The rest of our differences would be easier to smooth over than those two major differences of Sola Fide and Sola Scriptura, which Catholics, like myself, don't agree with.
No doubt...the ones you listed above are prodigies of Catholicism and why they are similar in doctrinal stances to some extent.
 
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That's a rather broad statement.
Actually, it is a rather pointed statement and states the same thing you did but in a different way!

I would agree with you that Catholic doctrine is not Christian Doctrine......

Catholics ARE Christian<------hahahah I misread what you wrote oh well, I will still stand on what I posted as worshipping Mary, the Pope, finger nails and bone fragments are quite contrary to biblical Christianity!

HAH I took your statement to be facetious.............!
 
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JesusIsAll

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May I be the bookie of this thread? The bet: will it go on for over 300 pages rebattling the Reformation, or not? Even odds.
 
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Here's a problem. If you honestly want to study our differences, don't do it in a thread. Take a class, talk to one on the mic in the Chat rooms, message one on here. Don't do it in a thread. The threads are a group of mostly anonymous people being able to write things they would rarely ever say to someone's face. The internet robs us of full recognition that the person we are communicating with is a living breathing human being. Hence, this thread will get derailed, become about the Reformation, and Catholics are wrong, they're not even Christians, Yes we are, and no we aren't wrong, priests called father, pedophilia, its okay to call them father, pedophilia exists in every profession, etc. That's what happens when anonymous people are allowed to argue.
 

sacraig67

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I myself wouldn't mind knowing all the differences as I don't know much about Catholisism. How can I argue one point if I don't know much about the other?
 
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JesusIsAll

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How can I argue one point if I don't know much about the other?
Just a tip, if you're concerned about getting up to speed on this. You can also Google things on the web you want to learn and, believe me, there is a ton of information you could have popped in your face, right now, Catholic versus Protestant, tradition versus only Bible believing, etc. Then, you'd be ready to argue sooner, right?

Anyway, your bet will be in the over 300 pages column. Need to setup a PayPal, and quite saying things that may chase potential customers off the thread.
 
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are the ones who preach christians. I mean priests that booze and say there is nothing wrong with gambling, priests who were found out to be lying on EWTN radio saying that protestants had removed james from the bible, telling catholics to stay away from protestant churches as what they preach is not true, while they are the ones preaching lies. after seeing some of their answers to questions on a catholic website i don't think they know the first thing about it.
 

sacraig67

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Just a tip, if you're concerned about getting up to speed on this. You can also Google things on the web you want to learn and, believe me, there is a ton of information you could have popped in your face, right now, Catholic versus Protestant, tradition versus only Bible believing, etc. Then, you'd be ready to argue sooner, right?

Anyway, your bet will be in the over 300 pages column. Need to setup a PayPal, and quite saying things that may chase potential customers off the thread.
Oh I am sorry I didn't know we weren't aloud to talk without an argument starting..my bad
 
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JesusIsAll

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Oh I am sorry I didn't know we weren't aloud to talk without an argument starting..my bad
Getting accused and rebuked often of things I never said, even implied, seeing some of what goes on here, I believe this could be true. Seeking the Bible, I found scripture that seems to indicate incessant disputings lack a certain Christian ambiance, also this, from the Lord,

Isaiah 1:18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the LORD...

Still looking for any reference to, "Come now, and let us bicker together." Will advise if I find it, though.
 

notuptome

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Here's a problem. If you honestly want to study our differences, don't do it in a thread. Take a class, talk to one on the mic in the Chat rooms, message one on here. Don't do it in a thread. The threads are a group of mostly anonymous people being able to write things they would rarely ever say to someone's face. The internet robs us of full recognition that the person we are communicating with is a living breathing human being. Hence, this thread will get derailed, become about the Reformation, and Catholics are wrong, they're not even Christians, Yes we are, and no we aren't wrong, priests called father, pedophilia, its okay to call them father, pedophilia exists in every profession, etc. That's what happens when anonymous people are allowed to argue.
I bought the book. I've lived with this for forty years. If a catholic is saved it is in spite of his/her church. Romanism as it is more precisely named teaches salvation only through their methodology which is works to receive grace. They will allow others to be saved but only if they are sympathetic to Romanism and unable to join their local Roman catholic church.

Roman catholics are wrong not because of the reformation but because they prefer their church tradition to bible doctrine.

If any come preaching another gospel which is not the gospel him reject.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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FireHeart

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Well if I may I have met some catholics and I dont know if this is all catholics or just some but.... The ones I met are very strict on not sinning and reading the bible, they didnt have an relationship with God and looked down on others who didnt meet their standards. Also they believed strongly in baby baptism. on the upside they held God in very high respect especially in prayer
 

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Well if I may I have met some catholics and I dont know if this is all catholics or just some but.... The ones I met are very strict on not sinning and reading the bible, they didnt have an relationship with God and looked down on others who didnt meet their standards.
To be fair that describes quite a few Christians that I know, not just Catholics.
 
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IAm3rd

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To be fair that describes quite a few Christians that I know, not just Catholics.
Why does the false distinction between "catholics and christians" persist ?

A true Christian is ( in short ) one who, having realized they have sinned against a Holy God, have repented and laid down their life for the sake of Him who has laid down their life for them, out of love for the One who Loves them beyond measure.

I know many Catholics who are exactly that. While correct theology is important, we are not saved by a perfect theology... but rather by He who is perfect.
 
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skipp

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Why does the false distinction between "catholics and christians" persist ?

A true Christian is ( in short ) one who, having realized they have sinned against a Holy God, have repented and laid down their life for the sake of Him who has laid down their life for them, out of love for the One who Loves them beyond measure.

I know many Catholics who are exactly that. While correct theology is important, we are not saved by a perfect theology... but rather by He who is perfect.
Unlike others on here I don't view Catholics as non-Christians so I didn't mean to make that distinction.