Gunsmoke, Bonanza

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Cross note. You say I need to change church. What do you think I'm trying to do here? I'm trying to change the church...one believer at a time. Back to the bible!
 

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And you know old Doc, and Matt and Festus may be drinking another beer but have you noticed that they never indulged in what I call the christian potty mouth sin-drome? You know, the bodily function humor that is a christian staple at church dinners. If I had to pick between the two, I'd rather hang out with the Gunsmoke clean mouth, beer drinkers. And that's a fact. I hope I'm convicting some potty mouthers.
Ill soon know when the rocks start flying. This is an ugly job but someone's gotta do it!
 
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And you know old Doc, and Matt and Festus may be drinking another beer but have you noticed that they never indulged in what I call the christian potty mouth sin-drome? You know, the bodily function humor that is a christian staple at church dinners. If I had to pick between the two, I'd rather hang out with the Gunsmoke clean mouth, beer drinkers. And that's a fact. I hope I'm convicting some potty mouthers.
Ill soon know when the rocks start flying. This is an ugly job but someone's gotta do it!
Morals say a lot about a person.
The heart can be totally caring for their neighbor while they say, "Hey beer tender pass me another bar!"
yippie yi yo ki yay,” :p

Whiskey is not in my diet, but a little wine every day is good.

Drink no longer water , but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.1 Timothy 5:23
 
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I'm a hundred percent against drinking alcohol. God delivered me from the stuff. He also delivered me from a vocabulary that could peel the paint off walls. My point is I'd rather hang out out with drinkers than poopy mouth Christians. As far as that goes I have a hard time with christian crooks as well. You know, the ones that deal corruptly in their business affairs.
Well heck, let's go all the way here on the churches dirty little secrets. I cannot handle the 'devouring of widows houses' every Sunday morning either. I know, I know. I'm rebellious. I've been hurt. I'm bitter. I got it, I got it. So sue me. Smile.
I'll really try to change......NOT!
 
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I'm a hundred percent against drinking alcohol. God delivered me from the stuff. He also delivered me from a vocabulary that could peel the paint off walls. My point is I'd rather hang out out with drinkers than poopy mouth Christians. As far as that goes I have a hard time with christian crooks as well. You know, the ones that deal corruptly in their business affairs.
Well heck, let's go all the way here on the churches dirty little secrets. I cannot handle the 'devouring of widows houses' every Sunday morning either. I know, I know. I'm rebellious. I've been hurt. I'm bitter. I got it, I got it. So sue me. Smile.
I'll really try to change......NOT!
Good point. I feel the same way to a certain extent. Satan aways attacts the religious sect first, and when we fail to be equipped with the "sword" we loose the duel. Dead men in the streets. Have gun will travel.
 
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Ohhhh no, not the goodness of men!!!! don't look at the goodness of men and how moral they were. Sounds like the preaching of - we need to get the 10 commandments BACK in the schools arguement ... When in reality., we NEED John 3:16 in the classroom. moral reform is nice but true TRANSFORMATION comes through REGENERATION not moral reformation.

Please good christians, don't keep getting the difference mixed up.
And by the way, I enjoy the shows you mentioned "Yet" and understand your longing but have learned it will only be satisfied by Jesus in your heart spilling over to people around you.

I still watch Little House on the Prairie and the Waltons and occasionally Bonanza and maybe Gunsmoke (although men seem to like those shows more) But don't you know, the stars on those shows lived sinful lives and are not real people???????? They knew how nice moral ways looked and felt yet none of them could live it out in their lives without Him. And they were left with just a wish for such purity. A longing never realized. :( Moral reform only goes so far.

But NOT so with US His children. :) We have this treasure in earthen vessels!!!! We have the reality in us and it can be shared with the world. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever AMEN!!
 

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Lady..u r missing a valid point. There is no goodness of men that will save the soul. We got that. But what in the world would be so terrible/criminal with the body of Christ gargling with some Holy Spirit saniflush. Get the point yet?
 
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Ohhhh no, not the goodness of men!!!! don't look at the goodness of men and how moral they were. Sounds like the preaching of - we need to get the 10 commandments BACK in the schools arguement ... When in reality., we NEED John 3:16 in the classroom. moral reform is nice but true TRANSFORMATION comes through REGENERATION not moral reformation.

Please good christians, don't keep getting the difference mixed up.
And by the way, I enjoy the shows you mentioned "Yet" and understand your longing but have learned it will only be satisfied by Jesus in your heart spilling over to people around you.

I still watch Little House on the Prairie and the Waltons and occasionally Bonanza and maybe Gunsmoke (although men seem to like those shows more) But don't you know, the stars on those shows lived sinful lives and are not real people???????? They knew how nice moral ways looked and felt yet none of them could live it out in their lives without Him. And they were left with just a wish for such purity. A longing never realized. :( Moral reform only goes so far.

But NOT so with US His children. :) We have this treasure in earthen vessels!!!! We have the reality in us and it can be shared with the world. Jesus Christ the same yesterday, today and forever AMEN!!
They were popular because of the moral character of the viewers had back then. Today those shows (if newly rebroadcast) would hardly last a month, let alone decades, because of the moral character and desires of entertainment these days. I think that's the point that was being made in the OP, not the personal lives of the actors and actresses of these older shows as mentioned.

Think about the stage shows of Miley Cyrus. How would she be seen 50 or 60 years ago? The difference in moral character is what I think the OP is drawing our attention to. I believe Christians should take note of how morally depraved our society has become today in relation to back then. Have we not been doing our job as God's children? Could be.
 
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Watched gunsmoke last night. A couple had a feed and grain store. Poor farmer walks in needing seed. No money. The store owner says take what you need and pay me when you can.
Oh to find a group of Christians like that....sign me up.

And Ben Cartwright? He keeps giving his cattle away to the poor...even to repentant thieves. How does he stay afloat?

Do you think we could learn some godly virtues from these sinful shows? Me thinks so! And it's high time we did!
 

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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
The only thing I can say to you is that "You ain't been where I been."
 
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While, clearly, Gunsmoke is inspired, I still question the authenticity of Bonanza. There were never such groomed pretty boys on horseback in the Wild West, Hop Sing seemed to always be in a hurry to get away from them, as if not to mention the inability to establish a meaningful relationship with the, curiously, doomed women the Cartwrights always gravitated to.

Bonanza is a potential forgery of perverse proportions (remember, the devil comes as an angel of light), and, therefore, should not be included in the celluloid canon.
 

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The point u r missing is that the good that is portrayed would be a novel experience in the ekklesia.
 
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I'd say Mayberry would be a pretty good place to live in too.Andy even played Christian songs on his guitar and they all went to church on Sunday and through the week. And they were always trying to help Otis stop his erring ways and become a good citizen. I'm only in my early 40s and I'd like to live in Mayberry :)
 

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To bad Opie had to grow up into liberalism. I guess the whole Mayberry thing was a joke on us.