Gunsmoke, Bonanza

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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
 
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Ben, Adam, Matt, Joe and Festus are all in the Bible. Hoss, Kitty, Doc and Chester aren't.
 
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Yet,

we hear you loud and clear.

how can we not help but to see and feel the moral difference
from our generation compared to today?
of course we were far from perfect, but it did seem that
there was a community of respect with higher ideals -
and concern for fellow-man..
it was short=lived.

remember what a 'shocker' it was when Clark Gable said,
'frankly my dear, I don't give a damn'.
I'm sure it must have made the daily headlines back then.

today, so many evils are just accepted as 'the norm'.
satan is having a field-day teaching all ages that 'sin'
is the way to go and fit-in.
 
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Point well taken but my point is if you find an assembly of saints that have the attributes of the aforementioned tv shows, let me know. I'll sell the house, load up the car and move to that town where such an assembly actually exists.
 
notuptome

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Point well taken but my point is if you find an assembly of saints that have the attributes of the aforementioned tv shows, let me know. I'll sell the house, load up the car and move to that town where such an assembly actually exists.
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Get real...you appear to feel more comfortable with the world than with the church. Don't think that is a good thing do you?

Why should God lead you to such an assembly? Serve the Lord where you are and quite attempting to find a good enough place for you to serve. Whatever thy hand findeth to do, do it heartily as unto the Lord.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
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It's very easy to sit at a computer and complain about the state of the church, but can you be proactive and start the change you wish to see in the church? You wish to see love, service, unity, etc., in the church, so what actions are you taking to bring about them in a local assembly? You know, change starts with you.
 
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Yet, I really liked Little House on the Prairie too!
 
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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
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kitty was the local saloon whore so... might wanna leave her out ;)
 
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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.
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We should be reluctant as to whether Bonanza belongs in the canon. Were they not pretty boys, of a time when men didn't even wash their hair that much? When there was some interaction with women, was there not inevitable disaster, and just a week later, back to normal, the women forgotten? Was it really a statistically anomalous matter they always went in for women who were gold diggers, prostitutes or accident-prone, or was this probably by intent? How many grandchildren were produced? Such ambiguities must lead to questions as to whether they were closeted gays. On the other hand, on Gunsmoke the men were men, grizzly and many disgusting, suitable of the modern congregation. So, Bonanza belongs in the apocrypha, at best, and I don't really see what there is in Gunsmoke you'd find agreeable you'd not find at church.
 
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IAm3rd said:
kitty was the local saloon whore so... might wanna leave her out ;)
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Even whores are one of God's children!! Whores are just like anyone else, they are capable of love and compassion for others. Don't judge people for what their profession or lifestyle happen to be. Even whores are capable of stopping that lifestyle, and becoming God-fearing, respectable people. Everyone makes mistakes, everyone can learn from them and we all have a chance to fix them.
 
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I remember seeing one rerun where something belonging to little Joe got left on the side of a mountain and Ben told Joe to get it, but Joe was afraid to climb the mountain so Ben went to get it. When Ben got on the mountain, he pretended to be slipping and called for Joe to save him. Joe raced up the mountain to save his father. And the moral of the story?

"There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear 1 Jn.4:18
 
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I prefered The Waltons.
 
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I knew many would miss the point altogether. I could get into the pimping in the world vs. the pimping in the church, both profit driven but many still would not get it. Now if the gainsayers can't figure where I'm coming from, there's no way I can tell them.

A few of you see exactly my point. ....does the word remnant come to mind?
 
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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
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You probably need to change your church if you get more out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza reruns.
 
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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
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This is humorous but yet so sad and true. What happened to the good ole days when the bad guy was taken away from society. What is so hard to understand about illegal? The church has become lawless because they don't want any law. For years the church has been falling down on the job. Away, down whatever. It's opposite of close and up.

Jeremiah 46:4 Harness the horses; and get up , ye horsemen, and stand forth with your helmets; furbish the spears, and put on the brigandines.

Matthew8:25-26
25 And his disciples came to him, and awoke him, saying , Lord, save us: we perish .
26 And he saith unto them, Why are ye fearful, O ye of little faith? Then he arose , and rebuked the winds and the sea; and there was a great calm.
 
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Ladies and gentlemen, if you would please take out your hymnals, and turn to Hymn 1, let us sing together, "Gunsmoke." Then Reverend Ritter will preach the sermon, "Was Chester's Limp the Thorn in the Flesh?"

[video=youtube;xtC6lu1sxOw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtC6lu1sxOw[/video]
 
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Stuart Hamblen wrote this song It Is No Secret
Stuart Hamblen was a popular singer, songwriter, actor, poet, and radio personality from the 1930s through the 1950s. He was first a hit on radio but appeared in films with Roy Rogers, Gene Autry, and John Wayne and wrote several chart-topping country songs.

illy Graham went to Los Angeles in 1949 for what became an historic evangelistic crusade. Graham’s long-time associate and crusade song leader Cliff Barrows told TruthOrFiction.com that Graham’s appearance on Hamblen’s radio show was arranged as part of the publicity for the crusade. Although Hamblen was known for his hard living and drinking, he had been reared as the son of a Methodist minister and warmly welcomed Graham as a guest. It was at that interview that Graham extended an invitation to Hamblen to attend the crusade and he accepted. According to Barrows, Hamblen later contacted Graham at his hotel and asked to talk. The result was that he “surrendered his life to Christ.” Hamblen’s became the first publicized conversion from the 1949 crusade and contributed to the decision to extend the event, which lasted for 8 weeks.
It was on a street in Hollywood that Hamblen later ran into John Wayne who asked him about the rumor around town that he’d changed his ways. Hamblen told Wayne that it was no secret what God had done for him and that he could do it for Wayne too. Wayne said it sounded like a song and suggested he write one. The result was one of Hamblen’s best-known tunes, It Is No Secret What God Can Do. It was a crossover song that is regarded as the first to have been #1 in the gospel, country, and pop categories. The original manuscript of It Is No Secret is buried in the cornerstone of one of the Copyright Buildings of the Library of Congress in Washington D.C.
After his conversion Hamblen announced that he was going to devote his time to “serving Christ” and he started a new radio program titled The Cowboy Church of the Air which became nationally syndicated. A confrontation developed with his sponsors, however, when he told them he would refuse to advertise alcohol. His much publicized departure from the program resulted in his being asked to run for President of the United States in 1952 under the banner of the Prohibition Party. He accepted and ran fourth to Republican Dwight Eisenhower who was elected President.
From: Stuart (or Russ) Hamblen, Billy Graham, John Wayne, and Hamblen's Song It Is No Secret-Mostly Truth!
 
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I get more of the Spirit of God out of Gunsmoke and Bonanza than i ever have outta church. Ben, Adam, Hoss, and Little Joe working together, helping each other, ready to lay their lives down for each other. Some poor dirt farmer steals a cow from the Ponderosa because his family is hungry. By the end of the show, Ben is giving the repentant farmer a small herd to help him with.

Matt Dillon. Kitty, Doc and Festus working in harmony to restore peace to Dodge City after a disaster, caring for each other, going the extra mile, close knit concerned deeply about one another's welfare. Chester loses his wife to be, and you cant hold the tears of compassion back. The others are there to aid and comfort him. Why? Because they love him.

I thought that's what church was going to be when we got saved. What a devastating blow when we discovered that it was NOT. We were horrified!

Meadow Lark Lemon on one of the early Bill Gaither videos remarked after witnessing the love and tears and anointing of God in the room of various singers, 'I thought that this is what church was going to be.' Then he said it again 'I thought that this is what church was going to be...I'm an evangelist and I have been to a lot of churches and met a lot of ugly people...' I believe a reformation and repentance is order.
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well, if you want to take this analogy a step further...

WE are the thieving farmer.
We are those who created disaster in Dodge.

Jesus is the One Who gives to the thief.
Jesus is the One Who goes the extra mile.
Jesus is the One Who loves His Bride.

(beeteedubs, i grew up watching Bonanza with my grandfather...love it!)
 
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Just me, thanks so much for that story. My mom use to sing It is No Secret when I was very young. My uncle Jerry would play guitar and my mom would sing the harmony. What a memory. My grandma on piano. I've always loved that song all my 64 years. We even put it in our motion picture 'Maddy'.
I never knew the story behind it. Thank you very much again. God bless, and He will. It is no secret what God can do!!
 
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