The Value of God's Children

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Blain

Blain

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I am having a sort of issue. To God every person is a beautiful treasure more sacred and more valuable than anything in heaven, and thats what I believe everyone is too. Many times People have been down on themselves saying how worthless they are or feel and every time I tell them how God sees them and how loved they are and how far he is willing to go for them. But the issue is while i know these things about others I myself dont view me the same way. I see myself unworthy not valuable and I am always bashing on myself because of my flaws and sinfulness.
Does that make me a hypocrite?

If I see a person doubting there worth I jump on in in a second and show them just how valuable and loved they are yet I myself cannot do the same about me? Is this a weakness in faith? am I being a hypocrite?
 
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weepingprophet

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God loves and God hates.
God loves His people and God hates those not His people.
Let the unsaved deal with their issues. If they are elect God will handle it, if not saved and non-elect whatever you say will not matter.
As for you, you are a lively stone and precious, the apple of God's own eye.
Like Israel.
 
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JesusIsAll

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Blain said:
If I see a person doubting there worth I jump on in in a second and show them just how valuable and loved they are yet I myself cannot do the same about me? Is this a weakness in faith? am I being a hypocrite?
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It seems that, the more a person realizes the greatness and holiness of God, the smaller one can feel, and this can accentuate our inadequacies. I know I struggle with this and don't believe it's something I'll take leave of, this side of the resurrection. But being human and sharing traits we can't help sharing with others, in this regard, can never make you a hypocrite, when sharing the love of God and edifying others. As a matter of fact, it's selfless times like these we rise to meet Him. So, no, you're not a hypocrite, at all!
 
peacefulbeliever

peacefulbeliever

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Blain said:
I am having a sort of issue. To God every person is a beautiful treasure more sacred and more valuable than anything in heaven, and thats what I believe everyone is too. Many times People have been down on themselves saying how worthless they are or feel and every time I tell them how God sees them and how loved they are and how far he is willing to go for them. But the issue is while i know these things about others I myself dont view me the same way. I see myself unworthy not valuable and I am always bashing on myself because of my flaws and sinfulness.
Does that make me a hypocrite?

If I see a person doubting there worth I jump on in in a second and show them just how valuable and loved they are yet I myself cannot do the same about me? Is this a weakness in faith? am I being a hypocrite?
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I understand exactly what you are saying . . . I think it is easier to edify others not knowing their deepest, darkest secrets but we know ourselves so well and tend to really be hard on ourselves - therefore we have the tendency to question how God can love us and how important we are to him. We have work to do!!!! - We need to cast down those imaginations for they are exalting themselves against the knowledge of Christ - we KNOW from scripture what God thinks of us and we just need to renew our minds and bring every thought captive!
 
breno785au

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Blain said:
I am having a sort of issue. To God every person is a beautiful treasure more sacred and more valuable than anything in heaven, and thats what I believe everyone is too. Many times People have been down on themselves saying how worthless they are or feel and every time I tell them how God sees them and how loved they are and how far he is willing to go for them. But the issue is while i know these things about others I myself dont view me the same way. I see myself unworthy not valuable and I am always bashing on myself because of my flaws and sinfulness.
Does that make me a hypocrite?

If I see a person doubting there worth I jump on in in a second and show them just how valuable and loved they are yet I myself cannot do the same about me? Is this a weakness in faith? am I being a hypocrite?
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I know exactly what you are saying, I love encouraging people and lifting them up but I'm the hardest person for me to encourage. I've enquired of the Lord about this and I'm waiting for an answer.
 
RedTent

RedTent

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I would like to make this part of a personal experience I am having. I am 89, and boy do I show it. I need a dentist I can't afford, and every single thing on me sags and is wrinkled. Watching me try to walk is like watching a disaster! But I feel absolutely beautiful and great. This wreck of a body holds the spirit the Lord sent me. I have been used by the Lord recently to bring God into lives. A homeless woman is staying with me, and we are equals working together as a team. I give a home and love to her, and she supports this broken body---so broken the pelvis is fractured.

My roomie from way, way back in college days just sent me a picture of myself taken then. It is a picture of a woman with features so lovely it could be of a photography model. I had NO idea!! I was certainly not considered beautiful at the time it was taken--my Mom said I was too skinny and I wasn't right at all. I slouched, so she said she was going to put me in a brace, my slouch was an example of how terribly inadequate I was. I was afraid to look anyone in the eye, for fear they would know I was what Mom told me I was. This woman I was with beauty in her shape and face only presented something ugly to the world. I had given myself to the Lord, but I listened to Mom, not the Lord about who I was.
 
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gzusfrk

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RedTent said:
I would like to make this part of a personal experience I am having. I am 89, and boy do I show it. I need a dentist I can't afford, and every single thing on me sags and is wrinkled. Watching me try to walk is like watching a disaster! But I feel absolutely beautiful and great. This wreck of a body holds the spirit the Lord sent me. I have been used by the Lord recently to bring God into lives. A homeless woman is staying with me, and we are equals working together as a team. I give a home and love to her, and she supports this broken body---so broken the pelvis is fractured.

My roomie from way, way back in college days just sent me a picture of myself taken then. It is a picture of a woman with features so lovely it could be of a photography model. I had NO idea!! I was certainly not considered beautiful at the time it was taken--my Mom said I was too skinny and I wasn't right at all. I slouched, so she said she was going to put me in a brace, my slouch was an example of how terribly inadequate I was. I was afraid to look anyone in the eye, for fear they would know I was what Mom told me I was. This woman I was with beauty in her shape and face only presented something ugly to the world. I had given myself to the Lord, but I listened to Mom, not the Lord about who I was.
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I dont know how you do it, I'm 57 and I can barely read the print
 
Blain

Blain

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Okay for all you older ppl i have this to say- I see old ppl struggling to walk I see their saggy skin they have bad hips they have bad issues and the world sees them, laughs and mocks them and see themselves better thinking their never going to get old. But When I see them I see with different eyes, I love and adore them I have deep compassion on one when they are struggling I like to listen to their stories I want to give them someone to be able to talk to who can understand their pain and hardships.

True I am not Old but I do know the hardship and pain, no one understands how hard it is to be old. The pain the aches having trouble moving having trouble seeing clearly your body slowly breaking down having to take pills just to start your day I mean the list goes on. Old people arent to be mocked and laughed at or looked down upon and you dont need to compare yourself to the younger you because regardless what you looked like back then you are just as beautiful now, I mean God loves and adores you his heart is tickled every time you talk to him his eyes are filled with loving tears every time you give him praise.

If God does all this when you are the way you are doesnt that show just how beautiful you really are?
 
RedTent

RedTent

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RedTent said:
I would like to make this part of a personal experience I am having. I am 89, and boy do I show it. I need a dentist I can't afford, and every single thing on me sags and is wrinkled. Watching me try to walk is like watching a disaster! But I feel absolutely beautiful and great. This wreck of a body holds the spirit the Lord sent me. I have been used by the Lord recently to bring God into lives. A homeless woman is staying with me, and we are equals working together as a team. I give a home and love to her, and she supports this broken body---so broken the pelvis is fractured.

My roomie from way, way back in college days just sent me a picture of myself taken then. It is a picture of a woman with features so lovely it could be of a photography model. I had NO idea!! I was certainly not considered beautiful at the time it was taken--my Mom said I was too skinny and I wasn't right at all. I slouched, so she said she was going to put me in a brace, my slouch was an example of how terribly inadequate I was. I was afraid to look anyone in the eye, for fear they would know I was what Mom told me I was. This woman I was with beauty in her shape and face only presented something ugly to the world. I had given myself to the Lord, but I listened to Mom, not the Lord about who I was.
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Sorry, again, is this better? Wish I could post two pictures. Me at 19, and me 70 years later!!
 
RedTent

RedTent

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Blain said:
Okay for all you older ppl i have this to say- I see old ppl struggling to walk I see their saggy skin they have bad hips they have bad issues and the world sees them, laughs and mocks them and see themselves better thinking their never going to get old. But When I see them I see with different eyes, I love and adore them I have deep compassion on one when they are struggling I like to listen to their stories I want to give them someone to be able to talk to who can understand their pain and hardships.

True I am not Old but I do know the hardship and pain, no one understands how hard it is to be old. The pain the aches having trouble moving having trouble seeing clearly your body slowly breaking down having to take pills just to start your day I mean the list goes on. Old people arent to be mocked and laughed at or looked down upon and you dont need to compare yourself to the younger you because regardless what you looked like back then you are just as beautiful now, I mean God loves and adores you his heart is tickled every time you talk to him his eyes are filled with loving tears every time you give him praise.

If God does all this when you are the way you are doesnt that show just how beautiful you really are?
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I have some bad situations to handle, it is true, but I wouldn't trade one minute of me today, with my joy in the Lord and oh, such memories, for the pain and heart ache of me at 19, even if that me at 19 was put in such a beautiful body. I didn't know then not to worry, I didn't know to see the beauty around me and praise God for it, I never spent one second thinking of the delights the Lord had for me in my future. I was only afraid, feeling inadequate, sure I was failing. Yet, you should just SEE some of the things I have accomplished in these 70 years!

You need not feel sorry for those feeble old people with their wrinkles. If they had the Lord as part of them, they have many things you can only envy.
 
dcontroversal

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Paul went from being.....

1. Least of the Apostles to...
2. Least of the saints to....
3. The number ONE chief sinner among men....

In his own eyes based upon the fact that the more time you spend with God and in God's word the more vile you will see yourself in light of the righteousness of Jesus Christ...

We are to condescend to men of a low estate and to not view ourselves more highly than we ought to.....so....Jesus was merciful to the man that beat upon his chest, while struggling with his own sin and he cried unto the Lord...BE MERCIFUL to me a sinner...Jesus came for those who know they are sick........
 
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kennethcadwell

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Blain said:
I am having a sort of issue. To God every person is a beautiful treasure more sacred and more valuable than anything in heaven, and thats what I believe everyone is too. Many times People have been down on themselves saying how worthless they are or feel and every time I tell them how God sees them and how loved they are and how far he is willing to go for them. But the issue is while i know these things about others I myself dont view me the same way. I see myself unworthy not valuable and I am always bashing on myself because of my flaws and sinfulness.
Does that make me a hypocrite?

If I see a person doubting there worth I jump on in in a second and show them just how valuable and loved they are yet I myself cannot do the same about me? Is this a weakness in faith? am I being a hypocrite?
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The thing you must ask yourself is are you truly doubting your worth, or are you feeling the conviction that believers feel from the Holy Spirit for the wrong things they have done in their life. We will all feel the conviction and how bad we were/are and how unworthy we are of the grace God showed to us by sending our Lord Jesus Christ to die for us. Taking our punishment, and becoming our sacrifice for sins sanctifying us with His blood.

weepingprophet said:
God loves and God hates.
God loves His people and God hates those not His people.
Let the unsaved deal with their issues. If they are elect God will handle it, if not saved and non-elect whatever you say will not matter.
As for you, you are a lively stone and precious, the apple of God's own eye.
Like Israel.
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We are told to help everybody, and show love to even those who are our enemies. We are called to minister to the unsaved and try to bring them to repentance. Not leave them be, and ignore them.
 
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JustAnotherUser

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We tend to be our own worst critics. Even the most respected and flawless seeming of a person can find something within themselves that makes them feel less valued because of it. Everyone has done it. I think it's normal that we want to lift others up before ourselves, but it also depends how much is too much when giving criticism for ourselves and why we do so to begin with. Hypocritical, maybe in a sense. But I think it's better than the whole 'casting the first stone' at someone when we ourselves are no better people.
 
RedTent

RedTent

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Blain, perhaps it is where our attention is directed. When our attention is on the Lord with absolute faith in Him, we can just let loose of ourselves and live under His direction. That makes us aware of ourselves as created by Him just as all others are, and we are simply a temple for the Holy Spirit.

Then life is simply a matter of forgetting what is behind, letting Christ take care of yesterdays, and reaching forward to what is ahead. Every day is a new day, renewed in Christ. There is no time to waste judging, either ourselves or others.
 
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oldthennew

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RedTent,

you have moved my husband and myself with your
heartfelt words,
we are thankful that our Father has allowed us
a peak at your precious heart.:)
 
Patnubay

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Blain said:
I am having a sort of issue. To God every person is a beautiful treasure more sacred and more valuable than anything in heaven, and thats what I believe everyone is too. Many times People have been down on themselves saying how worthless they are or feel and every time I tell them how God sees them and how loved they are and how far he is willing to go for them. But the issue is while i know these things about others I myself dont view me the same way. I see myself unworthy not valuable and I am always bashing on myself because of my flaws and sinfulness.
Does that make me a hypocrite?

If I see a person doubting there worth I jump on in in a second and show them just how valuable and loved they are yet I myself cannot do the same about me? Is this a weakness in faith? am I being a hypocrite?
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The Word of God is a double-edged sword. It does not only pierce your friend's flesh but also yours. I am not judging you. I say I can just relate. Every time I counsel some friends using the Scripture about marriage, I am reminded of my own failings. I will feel so much guilt and this guilt will propel me to go home and be a better husband.

I notice your age. Just relax. You are in the Potter's hands.
 
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