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For the same reason he tolerates it today. God hates all sin, but he allows it to happen, because ultimately HE is the only one who can avenge these heinous crimes. People who committed these acts in bible times were dealt with after they died, I'm sure of that. Just as the ones who commit these acts today will be dealt their punishment after death by God.
Sorry, Ladybug. I was not very clear.
Allowing to happen is different from tolerating it. He supported those disgusting acts in the OT. Moses and his people murdered every tribe they encountered, Abraham and Sarah were cousins, Jacob had many wives, Israelites had slaves, and the Hebrews were His chosen people.
Allowing to happen is different from tolerating it. He supported those disgusting acts in the OT. Moses and his people murdered every tribe they encountered, Abraham and Sarah were cousins, Jacob had many wives, Israelites had slaves, and the Hebrews were His chosen people.
J
Yes, the ultimate justice you point out is the balance. Also, in that list of bad things, slavery is down considerably, but it seems we have enough murder, incest (child abuse), polygamy (Muslims, LDS) and racism to go around. We have the likes of the "Islamic State," disgusting as ever and not likely to have a PBS cooking show anytime soon. I mean, check out the news: you want to hear from disgusting? Then there's the question as to when mankind, with wills of our own God does not compel, ever collectively repented, to date, seeking righteousness and the Lord in all our affairs, rejecting the ways of sin, vanity and Satan? You ask why God this and that, well, why man this and that? Who's really the problem? Who has the rules and can't get their act together? I fail to see the world, with respect to sin, is markedly better. Maybe we've exchanged most of the slavery for promoting homosexuality, for instance, but sin is sin, with respect to a completely holy God. God is long suffering, but read Revelation if you believe justice is not coming, for one and all. And if He put to rights man of the Old Testament, it would have been lights out, and we'd never have had a chance to repent, come to the Lord Jesus in faith and have eternal life in His kingdom.
Romans 9:22-24 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: and that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Romans 9:22-24 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: and that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory, even us, whom he hath called, not of the Jews only, but also of the Gentiles?
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Isaiah 45: 7. I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.(KJV)
Nothing happens in this world unless God causes it or allows it to happen. His purpose is to find all the evil in the world, destroy it and replace it with good, love, compassion, and forgiveness. He does this through individual testing and temptation. We hate these things today, because we lived through them and learned to hate them through experiencing them.
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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God
Nothing happens in this world unless God causes it or allows it to happen. His purpose is to find all the evil in the world, destroy it and replace it with good, love, compassion, and forgiveness. He does this through individual testing and temptation. We hate these things today, because we lived through them and learned to hate them through experiencing them.
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Gary Sechler
With knowledge on loan from God
J
Things like incest came to an end with the law, did become prohibited, like the command to have one wife coming later. God deemed some groups of pagan sinners unworthy to continue, giving the land to Israel. Before a holy God, none are fit to live, in any time, the wages of sin death and judgment! In Revelation, there will be deaths in the billions tolerated. We know the gene pool becomes tainted with recessive traits due to incest taking its course, but who's to say this was a problem leaving the Garden of Eden? Where else would Cain have found a wife? I don't see this differentiation you're making that God is tolerant of sinners less today, in first place. Nor is the program of God for mankind not progressive and increasingly revealing His will and program, in time. But you can't make a case sin was tolerated then, but not today, unless you've landed from another planet recently. Lastly, who are you to question God?
J
You're making no sense, not acknowledging God's program for mankind a progression of revealing His more perfect will, from no law to law to grace, God dealing with mankind like teaching a baby to walk. Maybe you threw food around as a baby, but probably wouldn't get invited back to dinner, if you did this as an adult.
What will you do that a child that had came from people that believed in these acts as being normal? Reconditioning takes time, you can't stop them cold-turkey, but if you tries this attempt, they'll just go back. But then you'll have to judge them by saying that they are incapable of being rehabilitated. And so God was very patient with them, hoping by a certain time that they will overcome this disease that plague His children. but the only problem was, that He have had the sick (blind) trying to healed (Lead) the sick and which they needed a Physician. And now the Physician has came and he will slowly nourish them back to respecting others and which respecting others is showing love.
J
When did God ever tolerate malice murder? Have you ever read the account of Cain and Abel? God judging and killing is not malice murder, any more than taking out the Germans was in WWII. Again, very much technically speaking, no sinner has a right to life before a holy God, only the New Covenant of grace by faith making anybody worthy, nobody in the Old Testament who didn't have faith in the Lord to save having any worthiness in the eyes of the Lord, meaning the vast majority of the world merely tolerated to even exist. You're actually accusing God of being a murderer, to say He blessed murder. How would you prefer your perverse question be answered?
Exodus 2:12 Looking this way and that and seeing no one, he killed the Egyptian and hid him in the sand.
[h=2]Full Definition of JUSTICE[/h]1
a : the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments
b : judge
c : the administration of law; especially : the establishment or determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity
2
a : the quality of being just, impartial, or fair
b (1) : the principle or ideal of just dealing or right action (2): conformity to this principle or ideal : righteousness
c : the quality of conforming to law
3
: conformity to truth, fact, or reason : correctness
Since God is a Just god, He know our heart, and He look at our upbringing to see what we lacked. He doesn't just say,"you kill, you are destroy!", but He look at the intent of the offense, to see if it was justifiable or not and which that is showing justice.
[h=2]Full Definition of JUSTICE[/h]1
a : the maintenance or administration of what is just especially by the impartial adjustment of conflicting claims or the assignment of merited rewards or punishments
b : judge
c : the administration of law; especially : the establishment or determination of rights according to the rules of law or equity
2
a : the quality of being just, impartial, or fair
b (1) : the principle or ideal of just dealing or right action (2): conformity to this principle or ideal : righteousness
c : the quality of conforming to law
3
: conformity to truth, fact, or reason : correctness
Since God is a Just god, He know our heart, and He look at our upbringing to see what we lacked. He doesn't just say,"you kill, you are destroy!", but He look at the intent of the offense, to see if it was justifiable or not and which that is showing justice.
Okay. This is the differentiation I was making.
Old Testament:
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
NOW: God we know will never order the murder of women and infants.
OT:
Jacob and Abraham sleeping with slaves
Now : It is a sin to sleep with another woman other than your wife even with your wife's permission
Old Testament:
1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
NOW: God we know will never order the murder of women and infants.
OT:
Jacob and Abraham sleeping with slaves
Now : It is a sin to sleep with another woman other than your wife even with your wife's permission
Ahh, Thank you. You got what I was trying to ask.
Now back to the OP. Are you saying God is experimenting on us? That generation to generation, we are moving towards a better "we"? That His actions and rules are based on our capability to absorb? Is this system more human that Godly? "We can be a better father to our second child or next time" ?
Now back to the OP. Are you saying God is experimenting on us? That generation to generation, we are moving towards a better "we"? That His actions and rules are based on our capability to absorb? Is this system more human that Godly? "We can be a better father to our second child or next time" ?
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