A Biblical Church

[weepingprophet]

Are you in a Biblical Church? These are from Scripture and show the activities of believers in the First Century Church:

1. Singing of Psalms
Colossians 3:16
Ephesians 5:19

2. Teaching (Doctrine)
2 Timothy 4:2
Acts 2:42

3. Tongues and Interpretation
1 Corinthians 14:26-27

4. Prophecy
1 Corinthians 14:1-4, 26-31

5. Encouraging One Another
Hebrews 10:24-25

6. Lord's Supper/Love Feast
1 Corinthians 10:15-17
Jude 1:12
Acts 20:7

7. Scripture Reading
1 Timothy 4:13
Colossians 4:16
1 Thessalonians 5:27

8. Prayer
Acts 4:24-31

9. Exercise of Discernment and Judgment
Acts 5:1-11

10. Reports and Business
Acts 4:23
Acts 15:1-29

11. Water Baptism (Immersion/Didache has sprinkling)
Acts 8:12
Hebrews 6:2

12. Laying on of Hands For the Endowment of the Holy Spirit and Other Gifts. (Laying on of Hands is Under the Authority of the Five-Fold Ministry i.e. Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher)
Acts 8:14-17
1 Timothy 4:14

13. Preaching
Acts 8:4-5
Ephesians 4:11-16

14. Sending Missionaries
Acts 13:1-4

15. Collections (Tithes and Offerings)
Acts 11:29
1 Corinthians 16:2

16. Reasoning and Persuading Others to Accept the Gospel
Acts 19:8-10

17. Confessions
Acts 19:18
James 5:16

18. Church Trials (Authority to Perform or Preside over Church Trials is Delegated to at Least One Member of the Five-Fold Ministry)
Matthew 18:15

19. Addition of Members
Acts 2:41
Acts 6:7

20. Fellowship
Acts 2:42

21. Exercise of Other Gifts
Acts 3:6
Acts 5:12-16

Are YOU in a Biblical Church?

 

[cfultz3]

Yet, prophet, you have not answered if a prophet can contradict Scripture and still be called a prophet from God?

 

[Scuba]

Are you in a Biblical Church? These are from Scripture and show the activities of believers in the First Century Church:

1. Singing of Psalms
Colossians 3:16
Ephesians 5:19

2. Teaching (Doctrine)
2 Timothy 4:2
Acts 2:42

3. Tongues and Interpretation
1 Corinthians 14:26-27

4. Prophecy
1 Corinthians 14:1-4, 26-31

5. Encouraging One Another
Hebrews 10:24-25

6. Lord's Supper/Love Feast
1 Corinthians 10:15-17
Jude 1:12
Acts 20:7

7. Scripture Reading
1 Timothy 4:13
Colossians 4:16
1 Thessalonians 5:27

8. Prayer
Acts 4:24-31

9. Exercise of Discernment and Judgment
Acts 5:1-11

10. Reports and Business
Acts 4:23
Acts 15:1-29

11. Water Baptism (Immersion/Didache has sprinkling)
Acts 8:12
Hebrews 6:2

12. Laying on of Hands For the Endowment of the Holy Spirit and Other Gifts. (Laying on of Hands is Under the Authority of the Five-Fold Ministry i.e. Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher)
Acts 8:14-17
1 Timothy 4:14

13. Preaching
Acts 8:4-5
Ephesians 4:11-16

14. Sending Missionaries
Acts 13:1-4

15. Collections (Tithes and Offerings)
Acts 11:29
1 Corinthians 16:2

16. Reasoning and Persuading Others to Accept the Gospel
Acts 19:8-10

17. Confessions
Acts 19:18
James 5:16

18. Church Trials (Authority to Perform or Preside over Church Trials is Delegated to at Least One Member of the Five-Fold Ministry)
Matthew 18:15

19. Addition of Members
Acts 2:41
Acts 6:7

20. Fellowship
Acts 2:42

21. Exercise of Other Gifts
Acts 3:6
Acts 5:12-16

Are YOU in a Biblical Church?

Don't forget, a biblical church will gather every Sabbath for worship.

Leviticus 23:3 You have six days when you can do your work, but the seventh day of each week is holy because it belongs to me. No matter where you live, you must rest on the Sabbath and come together for worship.

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

 

[notuptome]

I am part of the biblical church. I am part of the body of Christ. I am part of the bride that awaiteth her Groom.

I have little interest in the legalistic formalities and rites of which you allude.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[Scuba]

I am part of the biblical church. I am part of the body of Christ. I am part of the bride that awaiteth her Groom.

I have little interest in the legalistic formalities and rites of which you allude.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Just make sure you have enough oil.

 

[IAm3rd]

[video=youtube;50mqagzxU0c]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50mqagzxU0c[/video]

 

[IAm3rd]

15. Collections (Tithes and Offerings)

For what ?

 

[SeaBass]

Are you in a Biblical Church? These are from Scripture and show the activities of believers in the First Century Church:

1. Singing of Psalms
Colossians 3:16
Ephesians 5:19

2. Teaching (Doctrine)
2 Timothy 4:2
Acts 2:42

3. Tongues and Interpretation
1 Corinthians 14:26-27

4. Prophecy
1 Corinthians 14:1-4, 26-31

5. Encouraging One Another
Hebrews 10:24-25

6. Lord's Supper/Love Feast
1 Corinthians 10:15-17
Jude 1:12
Acts 20:7

7. Scripture Reading
1 Timothy 4:13
Colossians 4:16
1 Thessalonians 5:27

8. Prayer
Acts 4:24-31

9. Exercise of Discernment and Judgment
Acts 5:1-11

10. Reports and Business
Acts 4:23
Acts 15:1-29

11. Water Baptism (Immersion/Didache has sprinkling)
Acts 8:12
Hebrews 6:2

12. Laying on of Hands For the Endowment of the Holy Spirit and Other Gifts. (Laying on of Hands is Under the Authority of the Five-Fold Ministry i.e. Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher)
Acts 8:14-17
1 Timothy 4:14

13. Preaching
Acts 8:4-5
Ephesians 4:11-16

14. Sending Missionaries
Acts 13:1-4

15. Collections (Tithes and Offerings)
Acts 11:29
1 Corinthians 16:2

16. Reasoning and Persuading Others to Accept the Gospel
Acts 19:8-10

17. Confessions
Acts 19:18
James 5:16

18. Church Trials (Authority to Perform or Preside over Church Trials is Delegated to at Least One Member of the Five-Fold Ministry)
Matthew 18:15

19. Addition of Members
Acts 2:41
Acts 6:7

20. Fellowship
Acts 2:42

21. Exercise of Other Gifts
Acts 3:6
Acts 5:12-16

Are YOU in a Biblical Church?

1) singing, no playing instruments
2) yes
3) miraculous signs were for a certain time period and purpose and have ceased long ago as Paul said in 1 Cor 13; Eph 4.

4) no, see #3
5) yes
6) yes, Lord's Supper
7) yes
8) yes
9) judge righteous judgment Jn 7:24
10) yes
11) yes, immersion of believing adults
12) no, see #3
13) yes
14) yes
15) yes
17) yes
18) yes, Mt 18:15
19) God adds to His church,no one is voted by men into Christ's church
20) yes
21) no, see #3

Also:

22) teaches obedient works/doing righteousness is a necessary part of salvation as Christ and the apostles taught, 1 Jn 3:10
23) teaches children are born innocent not sinners as Christ and the apostles taught, Mt 19:14
24) teaches repentance is a necessary part of salvation as Christ and the apostles taught, Acts 2:38; Acts 26:20
25) teaches Christ is the head of His church, Eph 5:23, and has no earthly headquarters as Christ and apostles taught.
26) teaches fornication is the only reason God accepts for divorce and remarriage as Christ taught, Mt 19:9
27) teaches Christmas and Easter are not part of NT doctrine or celebrated as "Christian" holidays.

 

[EmethAlethia]

We need to be careful about making things that we see in Acts, and in the earliest written letters the norm. For example, when the Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles, actual tongues of fire descended upon them. To make this the requirement for being indwelt with the Spirit would probably eliminate everyone who has ever been on this forum from being a true Christian.

However, to say something is no longer the norm is not to say that it is impossible for God to ever do what He did in the past either. No, we do not have people lame from birth being healed as a persons shadow falls on them, as we did in the very earliest church. Shoot, Paul even thanks God that a "fellow worker in Christ", who was close to death, got better. What happened to Paul? Was his faith failing? Did the fellow worker not have faith?

I understand the desire to make what occurred in the early church the norm, but keep in mind that even having all the most wonderful works of power, and performing signs and wonders in the Name of Christ, does not even make a person a true Christian. (See the end of Mat. 7)

Celebrating the resurrection of Christ, or celebrating that He was born into the world to save us, is not a bad thing. Nor is the tradition of picking days to do it. I understand that the foundations of these things, with the Easter bunny, Eggs, ... and some of the Christmas "stuff" is also founded on pagan religions.

Paul talked about meat sacrificed to idols. Obviously we should avoid that, right? Paul says that we know that idols aren't anything, and as long as you are eating from faith (i.e. do not believe it is wrong) then go ahead and eat the cheap meat. When you go to another's house and he serves up meat, do not even ask. However, if they volunteer, "This meat was sacrificed to idols" do not eat ... The point being that if you eat, and they still believe it is a sin, and they end up eating while still believing it to be sin, then you have caused your brother to stumble.

In other words, if you were coming to stay with me over "Christmas" and I knew that you believed that celebrating Christmas was a sin, I would ask you, "Is there any risk that you would celebrate with us if you were here when we celebrate?". If your answer was yes, we would either put you up in a hotel for the day, celebrate early or later, ... but we would not expose you to that which might tempt you into doing what you believe to be sin. If you were adamant in stating that it was no temptation whatsoever, we would celebrate without any changes.

The same goes with drinking, even in front of those that believe that drinking for them would be a sin. If there are in no way tempted to sin, there is no reason my liberty needs to be curtailed.

Does this make sense?

 

[Scuba]

We need to be careful about making things that we see in Acts, and in the earliest written letters the norm. For example, when the Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles, actual tongues of fire descended upon them. To make this the requirement for being indwelt with the Spirit would probably eliminate everyone who has ever been on this forum from being a true Christian.

However, to say something is no longer the norm is not to say that it is impossible for God to ever do what He did in the past either. No, we do not have people lame from birth being healed as a persons shadow falls on them, as we did in the very earliest church. Shoot, Paul even thanks God that a "fellow worker in Christ", who was close to death, got better. What happened to Paul? Was his faith failing? Did the fellow worker not have faith?

I understand the desire to make what occurred in the early church the norm, but keep in mind that even having all the most wonderful works of power, and performing signs and wonders in the Name of Christ, does not even make a person a true Christian. (See the end of Mat. 7)

Celebrating the resurrection of Christ, or celebrating that He was born into the world to save us, is not a bad thing. Nor is the tradition of picking days to do it. I understand that the foundations of these things, with the Easter bunny, Eggs, ... and some of the Christmas "stuff" is also founded on pagan religions.

Paul talked about meat sacrificed to idols. Obviously we should avoid that, right? Paul says that we know that idols aren't anything, and as long as you are eating from faith (i.e. do not believe it is wrong) then go ahead and eat the cheap meat. When you go to another's house and he serves up meat, do not even ask. However, if they volunteer, "This meat was sacrificed to idols" do not eat ... The point being that if you eat, and they still believe it is a sin, and they end up eating while still believing it to be sin, then you have caused your brother to stumble.

In other words, if you were coming to stay with me over "Christmas" and I knew that you believed that celebrating Christmas was a sin, I would ask you, "Is there any risk that you would celebrate with us if you were here when we celebrate?". If your answer was yes, we would either put you up in a hotel for the day, celebrate early or later, ... but we would not expose you to that which might tempt you into doing what you believe to be sin. If you were adamant in stating that it was no temptation whatsoever, we would celebrate without any changes.

The same goes with drinking, even in front of those that believe that drinking for them would be a sin. If there are in no way tempted to sin, there is no reason my liberty needs to be curtailed.

Does this make sense?

I believe God does not change His feelings towards worship.

Deuteronomy 12:29-31 When the LORD goes ahead of you and destroys the nations and you live in their land, do not fall into the trap of following their customs and worshiping their gods. Do not inquire about their gods, saying, ‘How do these nations worship their gods? I want to follow their example.’ You must not worship the LORD the way the other nations worship their gods, for they perform for their gods everything the LORD hates.

 

[weepingprophet]

Don't forget, a biblical church will gather every Sabbath for worship.

Leviticus 23:3 You have six days when you can do your work, but the seventh day of each week is holy because it belongs to me. No matter where you live, you must rest on the Sabbath and come together for worship.

Acts 13:44 On the next Sabbath almost the whole city came together to hear the word of God.

Right. Our sabbath rest is in Christ.

 

[weepingprophet]

I am part of the biblical church. I am part of the body of Christ. I am part of the bride that awaiteth her Groom.

I have little interest in the legalistic formalities and rites of which you allude.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

Then you contradict Scripture. You can't be Biblical if you reject the Bible and its command and instruction.

 

[Scuba]

Right. Our sabbath rest is in Christ.

Tell me, can you make your sons and daughters rest in Christ? Can you make your servants and strangers rest in Christ? Can you make your working animals rest in Christ? And why would they need to? The seventh day is a literal day that God calls special and Jesus is Lord of. The early church gathered every Sabbath for congregational worship. Your rest in Christ can carry over to how we keep the seventh day in that we don't honor the seventh day in order to be made righteous, we are righteous in Christ. That lifts a heavy burden off us in everything we do for God. We honor the seventh day because God blessed it, called it holy and sanctified it for His people and since we love God, we love His gifts and His ways.

 

[weepingprophet]

Tell me, can you make your sons and daughters rest in Christ? Can you make your servants and strangers rest in Christ? Can you make your working animals rest in Christ? And why would they need to? The seventh day is a literal day that God calls special and Jesus is Lord of. The early church gathered every Sabbath for congregational worship. Your rest in Christ can carry over to how we keep the seventh day in that we don't honor the seventh day in order to be made righteous, we are righteous in Christ. That lifts a heavy burden off us in everything we do for God. We honor the seventh day because God blessed it, called it holy and sanctified it for His people and since we love God, we love His gifts and His ways.

Type and shadow. Our rest is in Christ. He is our Sabbath.

 

[Scuba]

Type and shadow. Our rest is in Christ. He is our Sabbath.

I tried to tell my wife that I was now married to Christ so I could not be married to her anymore. She didn't buy into it.

 

[weepingprophet]

1. God.
2. I reject the teaching that we are all supposed to mimic the calling of an apostle. This makes us fakes and missing our own calling.

 

[weepingprophet]

I tried to tell my wife that I was now married to Christ so I could not be married to her anymore. She didn't buy into it.

You err in saying you could not also be married to her.

 

[Scuba]

You err in saying you could not also be married to her.

You err in saying the seventh day is not to be honored. You actually err in making void a commandment of God for a man made tradition. You actually reject the fact that Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath. The word (THE) speaks of a literal 24 hour day called the Sabbath.

 

[just-me]

Are you in a Biblical Church? These are from Scripture and show the activities of believers in the First Century Church:

1. Singing of Psalms
Colossians 3:16
Ephesians 5:19

2. Teaching (Doctrine)
2 Timothy 4:2
Acts 2:42

3. Tongues and Interpretation
1 Corinthians 14:26-27

4. Prophecy
1 Corinthians 14:1-4, 26-31

5. Encouraging One Another
Hebrews 10:24-25

6. Lord's Supper/Love Feast
1 Corinthians 10:15-17
Jude 1:12
Acts 20:7

7. Scripture Reading
1 Timothy 4:13
Colossians 4:16
1 Thessalonians 5:27

8. Prayer
Acts 4:24-31

9. Exercise of Discernment and Judgment
Acts 5:1-11

10. Reports and Business
Acts 4:23
Acts 15:1-29

11. Water Baptism (Immersion/Didache has sprinkling)
Acts 8:12
Hebrews 6:2

12. Laying on of Hands For the Endowment of the Holy Spirit and Other Gifts. (Laying on of Hands is Under the Authority of the Five-Fold Ministry i.e. Apostle, Prophet, Evangelist, Pastor, Teacher)
Acts 8:14-17
1 Timothy 4:14

13. Preaching
Acts 8:4-5
Ephesians 4:11-16

14. Sending Missionaries
Acts 13:1-4

15. Collections (Tithes and Offerings)
Acts 11:29
1 Corinthians 16:2

16. Reasoning and Persuading Others to Accept the Gospel
Acts 19:8-10

17. Confessions
Acts 19:18
James 5:16

18. Church Trials (Authority to Perform or Preside over Church Trials is Delegated to at Least One Member of the Five-Fold Ministry)
Matthew 18:15

19. Addition of Members
Acts 2:41
Acts 6:7

20. Fellowship
Acts 2:42

21. Exercise of Other Gifts
Acts 3:6
Acts 5:12-16

Are YOU in a Biblical Church?

Haven't found one yet. Still looking.

 

[SeaBass]

We need to be careful about making things that we see in Acts, and in the earliest written letters the norm. For example, when the Holy Spirit descended on the Apostles, actual tongues of fire descended upon them. To make this the requirement for being indwelt with the Spirit would probably eliminate everyone who has ever been on this forum from being a true Christian.

However, to say something is no longer the norm is not to say that it is impossible for God to ever do what He did in the past either. No, we do not have people lame from birth being healed as a persons shadow falls on them, as we did in the very earliest church. Shoot, Paul even thanks God that a "fellow worker in Christ", who was close to death, got better. What happened to Paul? Was his faith failing? Did the fellow worker not have faith?

I understand the desire to make what occurred in the early church the norm, but keep in mind that even having all the most wonderful works of power, and performing signs and wonders in the Name of Christ, does not even make a person a true Christian. (See the end of Mat. 7)

Celebrating the resurrection of Christ, or celebrating that He was born into the world to save us, is not a bad thing. Nor is the tradition of picking days to do it. I understand that the foundations of these things, with the Easter bunny, Eggs, ... and some of the Christmas "stuff" is also founded on pagan religions.

Paul talked about meat sacrificed to idols. Obviously we should avoid that, right? Paul says that we know that idols aren't anything, and as long as you are eating from faith (i.e. do not believe it is wrong) then go ahead and eat the cheap meat. When you go to another's house and he serves up meat, do not even ask. However, if they volunteer, "This meat was sacrificed to idols" do not eat ... The point being that if you eat, and they still believe it is a sin, and they end up eating while still believing it to be sin, then you have caused your brother to stumble.

In other words, if you were coming to stay with me over "Christmas" and I knew that you believed that celebrating Christmas was a sin, I would ask you, "Is there any risk that you would celebrate with us if you were here when we celebrate?". If your answer was yes, we would either put you up in a hotel for the day, celebrate early or later, ... but we would not expose you to that which might tempt you into doing what you believe to be sin. If you were adamant in stating that it was no temptation whatsoever, we would celebrate without any changes.

The same goes with drinking, even in front of those that believe that drinking for them would be a sin. If there are in no way tempted to sin, there is no reason my liberty needs to be curtailed.

Does this make sense?

Hi and I do not agree.


If one is not following the pattern and doctrine that the bible presents of the first century church, then what are they following? Flawed human opinion. And following flawed human opinion is how men have gotten away from the "one church, one faith" of the NT, Eph 4:4,5. If I do not have to follow what the bible says on one issue, then why do I have to follow what the bible says on any issue. Paul told the first century church to "walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing." Phil 3:16.
BY not follwoing "the same rule" one would be engaged in will-worship, Col 2:22,23.

If celebrating a pagan holiday as a Christian holiday is sinful for one, then it sinful for all. If social drinking is sinful for one, it is sinful for all. These are not matters of personal opinion but matters of doctrine. So it is important to follow the biblical pattern, examples of the first century church. And I will add, biblical patterns/examples are binding....in Acts 15 the apostles met to discuss circumcision, verse 1,2. During that meeting Peter stood and gave a pattern/example of how the Gentiles were saved. IS that pattern/example of how Gentiles saved still binding today? Sure. So the pattern/examples from the book of Acts in how that first century church worshipped, their doctrine would be binding today.

2 Tim 1:13 "Hold fast (imperative mood) the form (pattern/example) of sound words, which thou hast heard of me, in faith and love which is in Christ Jesus."