The roots of the Hebrew roots heresy.
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Gossip about "Hebrew Roots" is a pig in a poke!! No one knows what it is all about. The gossip isn't about anything that scripture says any more, but about gossip.
Gossip says it is a philosophy (not scripture) about if we can be saved through works, and that has nothing to do with reading OT with understanding. Everyone agrees you can't and scripture says this, it makes good gossip to accuse someone of it.
Gossip says it is about gentiles trying to be Hebrews! of all things. Scripture says we are one under Christ, and only the protestants disagree with that.
The "roots" of the roots movement started with the new look at anti-Semitism that Hitler brought about, and new information about ancient Hebrew culture and the accuracy of OT scripture that archeology has brought about so there is clearer understanding of OT scripture. That is the sum total of the reason the movement started, the rest is gossip. Or man using the truth to distort it into something that isn't--with two extremes of distortion on both sides.
Man has taken these ideas and made it into things like that you have to perform Jewish rituals for one extreme, to the whole thing is a cult and we must not know any spirit and truth of OT scripture or we are part of the cult on the other.
Very few people are following Christ to see if there is a leading by Him in these ideas of looking at the roots of Christ. That would be Christian and following Christ!!!!
Gossip says it is a philosophy (not scripture) about if we can be saved through works, and that has nothing to do with reading OT with understanding. Everyone agrees you can't and scripture says this, it makes good gossip to accuse someone of it.
Gossip says it is about gentiles trying to be Hebrews! of all things. Scripture says we are one under Christ, and only the protestants disagree with that.
The "roots" of the roots movement started with the new look at anti-Semitism that Hitler brought about, and new information about ancient Hebrew culture and the accuracy of OT scripture that archeology has brought about so there is clearer understanding of OT scripture. That is the sum total of the reason the movement started, the rest is gossip. Or man using the truth to distort it into something that isn't--with two extremes of distortion on both sides.
Man has taken these ideas and made it into things like that you have to perform Jewish rituals for one extreme, to the whole thing is a cult and we must not know any spirit and truth of OT scripture or we are part of the cult on the other.
Very few people are following Christ to see if there is a leading by Him in these ideas of looking at the roots of Christ. That would be Christian and following Christ!!!!
I would hate to be your neighbor if you decided you would gossip about me and label me with your labels!! You are putting an entire idea of better bible understanding and researching it under your labels and gossip! On top of that, you have included an entire race of millions of people in your gossip saying all Jews will not listen.
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Hebrew roots and works salvation followers? as if the 2 are synonymous? and Hebrew roots is Kabbalah?
Why is the study of Hebrew so intimidating to some folks? Could it be they are in fear of finding error in their doctrine? Why not be more interested in truth?
I viewed a section of your vid, skipped to about the 1 hour mark where he is making slight of the priestly blessing, and did not care to see more. I hope everyone reading here sees that and is appalled. ..not at Hebrew, but at Stanley. I thought the Hebrew people were for us an example, not an entertainment or object of scorn/ ridicule.
Aaron prayed completely without guile, in absolute devotion and love. The kohen, who inherits this quality from Aaron, is endowed with the ability to do the same.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_BlessingThe priestly blessing or priestly benediction, (Hebrew: ברכת כהנים; translit. birkat kohanim), also known as raising of the hands (Hebrew nesiat kapayim), or Dukhanen (from the Yiddish word dukhan – platform – because the blessing is given from a raised rostrum),[SUP][1][/SUP] is a Jewish prayer recited by Kohanim. Kohanim are Priests, Jews who are descendants of Aaron the High Priest, brother of Moses, and according to Jewish tradition, have been divinely chosen to work in the Jewish Temple and assist others in serving God.
As stipulated in the Torah,[SUP][2][/SUP] the Kohanim have a special duty to raise their hands and bless the people, and God promises that "I will place my name on their hands" (the Kohanim's hands) "and bless them" (the Jews receiving the blessing). The Jewish Sages stressed that although the priests are the ones carrying out the blessing, it is not them or the ceremonial practice of raising their hands which results in the blessing, but rather it is God's desire that His blessing should be transferred by means of the Kohanim's hands.
Even after the destruction of the Jewish Temple, the practice has been carried over to the Jewish synagogue, and today in all Jewish communities Kohanim bless the worshippers in the synagogue, during the Jewish prayer service.
The text of the Priestly Blessing recited by the Kohanim, which appears verbatim in the Torah, is:
May the LORD (YHWH) bless you and guard you – יְבָרֶכְךָ יהוה, וְיִשְׁמְרֶךָ("Yebhārēkh-khā Adhōnāy weyishmerēkhā ...) May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you – יָאֵר יהוה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וִיחֻנֶּךָּ("Yāʾēr Adhōnāy pānāw ēlekhā wiḥunnékkā ...) May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace – יִשָּׂא יהוה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וְיָשֵׂם לְךָ שָׁלוֹם("Yissā Adhōnāy pānāw ēlekhā wiyāsēm lekhā shālōm.")
Why is the study of Hebrew so intimidating to some folks? Could it be they are in fear of finding error in their doctrine? Why not be more interested in truth?
I viewed a section of your vid, skipped to about the 1 hour mark where he is making slight of the priestly blessing, and did not care to see more. I hope everyone reading here sees that and is appalled. ..not at Hebrew, but at Stanley. I thought the Hebrew people were for us an example, not an entertainment or object of scorn/ ridicule.
Aaron prayed completely without guile, in absolute devotion and love. The kohen, who inherits this quality from Aaron, is endowed with the ability to do the same.
from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priestly_BlessingThe priestly blessing or priestly benediction, (Hebrew: ברכת כהנים; translit. birkat kohanim), also known as raising of the hands (Hebrew nesiat kapayim), or Dukhanen (from the Yiddish word dukhan – platform – because the blessing is given from a raised rostrum),[SUP][1][/SUP] is a Jewish prayer recited by Kohanim. Kohanim are Priests, Jews who are descendants of Aaron the High Priest, brother of Moses, and according to Jewish tradition, have been divinely chosen to work in the Jewish Temple and assist others in serving God.
As stipulated in the Torah,[SUP][2][/SUP] the Kohanim have a special duty to raise their hands and bless the people, and God promises that "I will place my name on their hands" (the Kohanim's hands) "and bless them" (the Jews receiving the blessing). The Jewish Sages stressed that although the priests are the ones carrying out the blessing, it is not them or the ceremonial practice of raising their hands which results in the blessing, but rather it is God's desire that His blessing should be transferred by means of the Kohanim's hands.
Even after the destruction of the Jewish Temple, the practice has been carried over to the Jewish synagogue, and today in all Jewish communities Kohanim bless the worshippers in the synagogue, during the Jewish prayer service.
The text of the Priestly Blessing recited by the Kohanim, which appears verbatim in the Torah, is:
May the LORD (YHWH) bless you and guard you – יְבָרֶכְךָ יהוה, וְיִשְׁמְרֶךָ("Yebhārēkh-khā Adhōnāy weyishmerēkhā ...) May the LORD make His face shed light upon you and be gracious unto you – יָאֵר יהוה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וִיחֻנֶּךָּ("Yāʾēr Adhōnāy pānāw ēlekhā wiḥunnékkā ...) May the LORD lift up His face unto you and give you peace – יִשָּׂא יהוה פָּנָיו אֵלֶיךָ, וְיָשֵׂם לְךָ שָׁלוֹם("Yissā Adhōnāy pānāw ēlekhā wiyāsēm lekhā shālōm.")
Please be careful of your broad and all-inclusive labels and judgments of people.
I am very much "Hebrew Roots-ish", but my salvation isn't dependent on works. And I know that most of my fellow "Hebrew Root-ers" here agree.
Broad and sensationalist accusations are great Message Board fodder, but usually end up creating more harm than good, no matter what topic they are addressing.
I am very much "Hebrew Roots-ish", but my salvation isn't dependent on works. And I know that most of my fellow "Hebrew Root-ers" here agree.
Broad and sensationalist accusations are great Message Board fodder, but usually end up creating more harm than good, no matter what topic they are addressing.
Now, with your "likes" you are gathering, your labeling the entire idea of including the roots of Christianity in the study of Christ as this Kabballah thing, and study of the roots of Christ is not Christian, you are gathering others to agree to your labeling tactics. And labeling the study of Christianity not Christian is not labeling? What is it then?
Satan wanted to totally destroy the law by distorting it via the scribes and pharisees, and when Jesus rose from the dead, and the Romans destroyed the temple, Satan realized that he had lost the contest, so he had to approach in a different manner. Today he is also using the religious sect to negate it. Same difference, just a new wrinkle. The law has power that he cannot fight unless it's either distorted by practicing it incorrectly or totally gone. The law stands in his way to destroy the human race so he can accomplish his desire that was before the flood.
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .
History has proven that if the law is not acknowledged as legitimate and practiced righteously (because it's God's words not man's) then satan can destroy us. Lawlessness is destructive. We have received the law at the right time in history for the plan of this salvation that God offers through Christ to work right. If you have the Holy Spirit you can clearly see its relevance, and its purpose for righteousness. It doesn't save, but it has always worked in coordination with salvation through Christ.
John 3:10b "Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?"
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
Matthew 24:37 But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be .
History has proven that if the law is not acknowledged as legitimate and practiced righteously (because it's God's words not man's) then satan can destroy us. Lawlessness is destructive. We have received the law at the right time in history for the plan of this salvation that God offers through Christ to work right. If you have the Holy Spirit you can clearly see its relevance, and its purpose for righteousness. It doesn't save, but it has always worked in coordination with salvation through Christ.
John 3:10b "Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?"
WAKE UP PEOPLE!
God forbids us to make the law void...regardless of which 'translation' of the Bible we use. It just doesn't get much plainer or more obvious than that.
Romans 3:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3:31 (NAS)
31 Do we thennullify the Lawthroughfaith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.
Romans 3:31 (NIV)
31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
Romans 3:31 (CEB)
31 Do we then cancel the Law through this faith? Absolutely not! Instead, we confirm the Law.
Romans 3:31 (CJB)
31 Does it follow that we abolish Torah by this trusting? Heaven forbid! On the contrary, we confirm Torah.
Romans 3:31 (KJV)
[SUP]31 [/SUP]Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Romans 3:31 (NAS)
31 Do we thennullify the Lawthroughfaith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law.
Romans 3:31 (NIV)
31 Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law.
Romans 3:31 (CEB)
31 Do we then cancel the Law through this faith? Absolutely not! Instead, we confirm the Law.
Romans 3:31 (CJB)
31 Does it follow that we abolish Torah by this trusting? Heaven forbid! On the contrary, we confirm Torah.
Great Reply!! I'm Awake, Praise God!!
Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Pro_28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Ecc_12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
And words of Jesus:
Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mar_7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
Act_5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.
Pro_28:9 He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be abomination.
Ecc_12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
And words of Jesus:
Mat_19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
Mar_7:9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
Joh_14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh_14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.
Joh_15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
I can tell from reading the replies that none of you watched the video nor understand what this thread is about.
The video nor this thread has anything to do with keeping the law.
The Hebrew Roots movement COMES FROM THE KABBALAH... IT IS NOT CHRISTIAN.
The god of Kabbalah is not the God of the bible.
The video nor this thread has anything to do with keeping the law.
The Hebrew Roots movement COMES FROM THE KABBALAH... IT IS NOT CHRISTIAN.
The god of Kabbalah is not the God of the bible.
Here are their teachings that are heresy:
* Jesus was the Messiah but He wasn't God; He was just a man.
* Intellectually accepting Jesus is enough. One is saved by the keeping of the laws; grace has nothing to do with salvation.
* Many adhere to a sacred name philosophy. When someone claims a "This is the only name for Jesus or God" philosophy, you can pretty much peg them as HRM right there.
* Many HRM groups have rendered their own translation of the Bible because they believe that no one has EVER in the history of mankind done it correctly before.
You can find information about most of the groups listed below at the following sites:
* Jesus was the Messiah but He wasn't God; He was just a man.
* Intellectually accepting Jesus is enough. One is saved by the keeping of the laws; grace has nothing to do with salvation.
* Many adhere to a sacred name philosophy. When someone claims a "This is the only name for Jesus or God" philosophy, you can pretty much peg them as HRM right there.
* Many HRM groups have rendered their own translation of the Bible because they believe that no one has EVER in the history of mankind done it correctly before.
* Many believe that their leader or leaders represent one or both of the two witnesses of Revelation.
You can find information about most of the groups listed below at the following sites:
Gospelcom.net This is a very robust Christian site dedicated to providing information on cults, sects, fringe groups and various religions.
It is good that you bring to our attention this fact. The Hebrew Roots Movement/Kabbalah, from what I have read, is something to be avoided as is everything which is a departure from the instructions for followers of Jesus Christ so freely given in the Word of God. Cherishing and loving the Law of God is not the same as being a member of the HRM, but that is one of the conclusions people jump to. King David loved God’s Law but --Kabbalah? I don’t think so. King David had no need to seek the mysticism of Kabbalah – he knew Adonai in truth. We are to also seek diligently God as he did and we are promised that we will find Him when we do. “When you seek me, you will find me, provided you seek for me wholeheartedly;” Jeremiah 29:13
The problem you refer to arises when people see a keyword and rather than actually read what is said, or in this case watch the video, and jump to a conclusion of what is being presented, and then the demeaning talk begins. I was labelled as being part of the HRM one time because I posted something that showed I believe the Law still has value today and I didn’t even know what it was at the time! Then the usual accusations start that claim we who reverence God’s Law for its rightful place now that we have been redeemed by our Savior Jesus Christ, want to be “under” the law again as before Christ’s sacrificial death and resurrection. The Law is not obsolete, although most professing Christians today consider it to be so.
Another very sad component of this problem is that some people love to argue (not a characteristic Christians are to have) and others are so misguided as to believe arguing is the same as edification. “Iron sharpens iron” is the phrase they like to use, but think about it – one can only sharpen one’s sword in an environment of peace, not when doing battle. I could go on and on but I want to keep this as short as possible because people don’t tend to read long posts either.
The problem you refer to arises when people see a keyword and rather than actually read what is said, or in this case watch the video, and jump to a conclusion of what is being presented, and then the demeaning talk begins. I was labelled as being part of the HRM one time because I posted something that showed I believe the Law still has value today and I didn’t even know what it was at the time! Then the usual accusations start that claim we who reverence God’s Law for its rightful place now that we have been redeemed by our Savior Jesus Christ, want to be “under” the law again as before Christ’s sacrificial death and resurrection. The Law is not obsolete, although most professing Christians today consider it to be so.
Another very sad component of this problem is that some people love to argue (not a characteristic Christians are to have) and others are so misguided as to believe arguing is the same as edification. “Iron sharpens iron” is the phrase they like to use, but think about it – one can only sharpen one’s sword in an environment of peace, not when doing battle. I could go on and on but I want to keep this as short as possible because people don’t tend to read long posts either.
Here are their teachings that are heresy:
* Jesus was the Messiah but He wasn't God; He was just a man.
* Intellectually accepting Jesus is enough. One is saved by the keeping of the laws; grace has nothing to do with salvation.
* Many adhere to a sacred name philosophy. When someone claims a "This is the only name for Jesus or God" philosophy, you can pretty much peg them as HRM right there.
* Many HRM groups have rendered their own translation of the Bible because they believe that no one has EVER in the history of mankind done it correctly before.
You can find information about most of the groups listed below at the following sites:
* Jesus was the Messiah but He wasn't God; He was just a man.
* Intellectually accepting Jesus is enough. One is saved by the keeping of the laws; grace has nothing to do with salvation.
* Many adhere to a sacred name philosophy. When someone claims a "This is the only name for Jesus or God" philosophy, you can pretty much peg them as HRM right there.
* Many HRM groups have rendered their own translation of the Bible because they believe that no one has EVER in the history of mankind done it correctly before.
* Many believe that their leader or leaders represent one or both of the two witnesses of Revelation.
You can find information about most of the groups listed below at the following sites:
Gospelcom.net This is a very robust Christian site dedicated to providing information on cults, sects, fringe groups and various religions.
For every person in the "Hebrew Root" movement that believes those things, there are even more who don't believe that, myself included.