Ten Horns of the Leopard-Bear-Lion

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Therapon

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My first book on Bible prophecy, "Daniel is out of Chronological Order," was written in 1982. It detailed how Scripture predicted that Islam would be the final enemy of the Jews and the Church, followed shortly by the Lord Jesus appearing in the sky. Pretty obvious now, but back in 1982, that was pretty radical thinking, so I might as well have been writing in Swahili. At the time, most prophecy gurus were absolutely positive that the USSR was the final beast and that antichrist would be one Pope or another, LOL.

Over the next 20 years, five more Skolfield books on Bible prophecy were published, but with decreasing antagonism from the church because what those books predicted began happening right before people’s eyes and could not be denied.

Among other concepts, it was now scripturally provable that the Leopard-Bear-Lion beast of Revelation 13 was ISLAM and they serve the dragon, Satan, the only uncertainty being, who or what were the 10 horns? Well first off, they could be the 10 Islamic states surrounding Israel, but Daniel usually identifies "horns" as rulers so we should look at the possibility that the 10 horns of Revelation 13 are 10 Islamic rulers.

Revelation 13:1 "And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy."

There have been Nine Historic Califates in the Leopard-Bear-Lion beast, you can check this on Wikipedia if you like . . .

1.1 Rashidun, 632–661 1
1.2 Umayyads, 7th–8th centuries
1.2a The Caliphate in Hispania1
1.3 Abbasids, 8th–13th centuries
1.4 Fatimids, 10th–12th centuries 1
1.5 Shadow Caliphate, 13th–16th centuries 1
1.6 Ottomans, 16th–20th century
1.7 Sokoto, 19th century
1.8 Ahmadiyya Caliphate, 1908-Present
1.9 Khilafat Movement of, 1920

The Caliphate movement ended in 1924. But now, Islam under ISIS is trying once again to establish a worldwide Islamic Caliphate. If they are successful, they would be the tenth!! The 10th Horn of Islam, the Leopard-Bear-Lion beast that has been killing Jews and Christians ever since the days of Muhammad.

Revelation 20:3 "I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped (Islamic) the beast, neither his image (the present jihad), neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands."

Doesn’t fit your doctrine? Too bad, that’s what ISIS is doing right now in Syria and Iraq, raping, murdering, beheading and wiping out the little Christian villages. If you are not praying every day for our dying brethren over there, you should truly be ashamed.

And when the Two Witnesses
(the Jewish people in the Gentile church) shall have finished their testimony (after 1948-1967), the Islamic Jihad that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.

Sound right? Isn’t that what you are seeing right now? Of course, so like it or not, that’s reality.

 

 

 

 
 
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I have taught for some time (without Skolfield) the following...

1. The beast/little horn aka anti-Christ so called will be the 12 IMAM
2. That radical Islam will sweep the planet at the destruction of the DAUGHTER of BABYLON (U.S)
3. The false god pointed at by the 2nd beast (pope) will be Allah
4. The current leader of IS, ISIS, ISIL is doing, attempting to do what the so called anti-Christ will do...

After 25 years of History I have come to the following conclusion...

Horus-->Bel-->Marduke-->Merodach-->Jupiter-->Zeus-->ALLAH
 
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kennethcadwell

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I see where the two of you are coming from, but what I would pose to you though is that the anti-Christ is to come out at first with to fool people with a false since of peace. He and the 10 areas he commands/follows him do not come out and wipe out Christians right away as Isis is doing.
 
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I see where the two of you are coming from, but what I would pose to you though is that the anti-Christ is to come out at first with to fool people with a false since of peace. He and the 10 areas he commands/follows him do not come out and wipe out Christians right away as Isis is doing.
Well he subdues three of the 10 unto himself and then the ten lend their power to the beast for ONE hour...Interesting to note that exactly 10 Arab nations have agreed to fight ISIS........
 
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Well he subdues three of the 10 unto himself and then the ten lend their power to the beast for ONE hour...Interesting to note that exactly 10 Arab nations have agreed to fight ISIS........
Yes this is interesting how exactly 10 Arab nations have agreed to fight Isis.
This could be very much the 10, or it could be the 10 European nations that form that union that has been pushing for a one world order for a long time now.
 
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I see where the two of you are coming from, but what I would pose to you though is that the anti-Christ is to come out at first with to fool people with a false since of peace. He and the 10 areas he commands/follows him do not come out and wipe out Christians right away as Isis is doing.
ISIS could unite the world, about as well as wolves could unite sheep. Nor would inherently divisive religious differences serve Antichrist's needs. Add to that Antichrist has what appears to be a weird, perhaps occultic god his own. (Three guesses who?) Allah, the God of, what, over a billion would not be a strange god, characteristic of being not of "any god" the world knows. Daniel 11:37-39.
 

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Acts 26:24
...said in a loud voice, “...you are out of your mind! Your great learning is driving you mad.” :)

I don't know why that scripture came to mind:rolleyes:, but there it is!

Although, having said that (disagreeing with most of what I've read on this thread), I can't leave it at that. At least everyone on this thread reads their bibles; a trait lacking in most Christians, including me, until about five years ago.
 
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Acts 26:24
...said in a loud voice, “...you are out of your mind! Your great learning is driving you mad.” :)

I don't know why that scripture came to mind:rolleyes:, but there it is!

Although, having said that (disagreeing with most of what I've read on this thread), I can't leave it at that. At least everyone on this thread reads their bibles; a trait lacking in most Christians, including me, until about five years ago.[/QUOTE]

Maybe that is why you disagree...as I have looked/read/studied the end for over 25 years as opposed to the 5 years that you mentioned in your post!<----not that it makes any difference...you think?

AND, any and all men can be wrong.....so.....an impasse for sure!
 

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Acts 26:24
...said in a loud voice, “...you are out of your mind! Your great learning is driving you mad.” :)

I don't know why that scripture came to mind:rolleyes:, but there it is!

Although, having said that (disagreeing with most of what I've read on this thread), I can't leave it at that. At least everyone on this thread reads their bibles; a trait lacking in most Christians, including me, until about five years ago.[/QUOTE]

Maybe that is why you disagree...as I have looked/read/studied the end for over 25 years as opposed to the 5 years that you mentioned in your post!<----not that it makes any difference...you think?

AND, any and all men can be wrong.....so.....an impasse for sure!
Now...Elihu is coming to mind;).

I have read a lot of good thoughts from you, dc. But when it comes to Revelation, we hardly agree at all. That's okay. Or at least I hope it is, as the whole world can't seem to agree on Revelation (that is the ones that actually read more that Rev 13:16-18!). Before I started reading (and I didn't get to Revelation...until the end), I thought that the beast of Rev 17 was the Roman Catholic Church. But that seems to be a totally unacceptable explanation now.

It also seems, to me, to be highly improbable that Revelation is talking SPECIFICALLY about anything in current world events. Everything was fulfilled in the first century, IMO. And no, I haven't put it ALL together, but I don't suppose that very many have.



Oh, I forgot...there are many that have studied many more years than you AND don't have a clue what they are talking about!!!
 

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Now...Elihu is coming to mind;).

I have read a lot of good thoughts from you, dc. But when it comes to Revelation, we hardly agree at all. That's okay. Or at least I hope it is, as the whole world can't seem to agree on Revelation (that is the ones that actually read more that Rev 13:16-18!). Before I started reading (and I didn't get to Revelation...until the end), I thought that the beast of Rev 17 was the Roman Catholic Church. But that seems to be a totally unacceptable explanation now.

It also seems, to me, to be highly improbable that Revelation is talking SPECIFICALLY about anything in current world events. Everything was fulfilled in the first century, IMO. And no, I haven't put it ALL together, but I don't suppose that very many have.



Oh, I forgot...there are many that have studied many more years than you AND don't have a clue what they are talking about!!!
Just to be clear, that was not intended to be directed at anyone particular...although, while I was following up, someone that has not even posted on this thread came rushing to my mind:).
 
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Just to be clear, that was not intended to be directed at anyone particular...although, while I was following up, someone that has not even posted on this thread came rushing to my mind:).
Oh without a doubt there are some things that are still (foggy), but I can say with confidence that the sun, moon and stars are still hanging in the heaven and are still giving their light (6th seal) :) HAHHAHAH!
 
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My first book on Bible prophecy, "Daniel is out of Chronological Order," was written in 1982. It detailed how Scripture predicted that Islam would be the final enemy of the Jews and the Church, ................................
I asked the room in general, let me ask you specifically: What does Daniel 12:11 mean to you?
 
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Therapon

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I asked the room in general, let me ask you specifically: What does Daniel 12:11 mean to you?[/QUOTE

In my humble opinion, that's the wrong way ask the question. What Daniel 12:11 "means to me" isn't important, only God's intent for this prophecy is important.

Daniel 12:11 "And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

I detailed all this in an earlier thread so I'll just give you a synopsis here:

In Ezekiel 4:5-6, the Lord tells us that prophetic days should be understood as years. Daniel in Babylon used the 360 day Hebrew prophetic year he was familiar with. Therefore, the Lord is telling us that it will be 1290 Hebrew prophetic years from when sacrifices were abolished in Daniel's time until an abomination will be set up on the temple mount of God most holy in Jerusalem.

From Jeremiah 41:2-5 it is obvious that sacrifices continued after the temple was destroyed in 586 BC. Then from Jeremiah 52:30 it appears that the last of the Levitical priests were taken captive to Babylon "in the 23rd year of Nebuchadnezzar." The first year of Nebuchadnezzar was 606 BC - 23 = 583 BC, so sacrifices were actually abolished in 583 BC, three years after the temple was destroyed. Now let's look at that verse again . . .

Daniel 12:11"And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days."

So when the abomination would be set up was not tied to the year the temple was destroyed, but to when Levitical sacrifices were actually abolished.

Our history is recorded in solar years so we convert 1290 Hebrew prophetic years to solar years, with a conversion factor of 1290 X .9857 = 1271.5 solar years. So it was 1271.5 solar years from when sacrifices were abolished in Daniel's time until "the abomination that makes desolate" was set up.

583-1271.5 = 688.5, and that is the exact year that Abed Malik Ibn Marwan began to build the Islamic Dome of the Rock on the temple mount of God most holy in Jerusalem so the Islamic Dome of the Rock on the temple mount is "the abomination that maketh desolate."

When we recognize the day-year prophecies in both Daniel and Revelation were fulfilled by just three events: by the construction of the Dome of the Rock in 688 A.D., by the new nation of Israel being established in 1948 A.D. and by Jerusalem being freed of Gentile domination in 1967 A.D., Dispensational and Preterist eschatology can no longer be biblically or historically supported.

I won't address these issues on the forum because it puts some people's hair on fire, but if you want the details, please go to www.EllisSkolfield.com and download the "Bible prophecy Study Guide" from the home page, or my last book on Bible prophecy, "Islam in the End Times."
 
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I asked the room in general, let me ask you specifically: What does Daniel 12:11 mean to you?
Not saying this is for sure, but it could be if we consider 7 years. This is if the beginning was Nisan 10 5775/2015, the day the lamb was secured for Passover.

The 2nd half
Beginning the 1st day of Tishri there are 177 days left to the end of the year not being a leap year (2018 year 2?)
The next year is a leap year = 384 (2019 year 3?)
2 regular years follow = 708 days (2020, and 2021 years 4 and 5?)
Counting 21 days of the first month on the following leap year we arrive at the last day of the feast of unleavened bread. (2022 year 6?)
177+384+708+21=1290 days

Daniel 12:11 And from the time that the continual burnt-offering shall be taken away, and the detestable thing that causes appalment set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Daniel 11:31-35
31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate .
32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong , and do exploits.
33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
34 Now when they shall fall , they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
35 And some of them of understanding shall fall , to try them, and to purge , and to make them white , even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.

Luke 9:23 And he said to them all, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily , and follow me.
 
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Regular years in a 19 year cycle are years 1,2,3[SUP]rd[/SUP] 4,5, 6[SUP]th[/SUP] 7 8[SUP]th[/SUP], 9,10, 11[SUP]th[/SUP] 12,13, 14[SUP]th[/SUP],15, 16, 17[SUP]th[/SUP], 18, 19[SUP]th[/SUP] bold are leap years
Regular years equaling 354 days each
Leap years equaling 384 days each


The first year is not a leap year, having 345 days if starting the count on the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] when the lamb was captured for Passover written in Exodus chapter 12 (2015 year 18?)
The second year is a leap year = 384 days (2016 year 19?)
The next year is a regular 12-month period also being 354 days (2017 year 1 according to the Hebrew 19 year cycle)
The first ½ part of the last year = 177 days not being a leap year bringing us to the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day of the month of Tishri, the beginning of the trumpets. (2018 year 2 according to the Hebrew 19 year cycle)
345+384+354+177=1260 days

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]To determine whether a Jewish year is a leap year, one must find its position in the 19-year Metonic cycle. This position is calculated by dividing the Jewish year number by 19 and finding the remainder. For example, Jewish year 5771 divided by 19 results in a remainder of 14, indicating that it is year 14 of the Metonic cycle. Since there is no year 0, a remainder of 0 indicates that the year is year 19 of the cycle.[/FONT]
 
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I asked the room in general, let me ask you specifically: What does Daniel 12:11 mean to you?[/QUOTE

In my humble opinion, that's the wrong way ask the question. What Daniel 12:11 "means to me" isn't important, only God's intent for this prophecy is important.

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The reason I asked "what does it mean to you" is because there is more than one opinion. If you think that's the wrong way to ask the question, forgive me for not believing everything you bring to the table is from God, at least at first blush. Paul didn't have a problem with people questioning his teaching so I fail to see why that bothered you.

The reason I asked you is because you tied this into islam, which I believe is correct. Let me bring some articles to your attention, if I may, and ask you to peruse them for the suggested material connections.
Al-Ashraf Khalil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Acre, Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Acre was the last of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem. Khalil destroyed it in 1291, after his father "set up" the raid on that city in 1290. Khalil was a muslim ruler.
 
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Therapon

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The reason I asked "what does it mean to you" is because there is more than one opinion. If you think that's the wrong way to ask the question, forgive me for not believing everything you bring to the table is from God, at least at first blush. Paul didn't have a problem with people questioning his teaching so I fail to see why that bothered you.

The reason I asked you is because you tied this into islam, which I believe is correct. Let me bring some articles to your attention, if I may, and ask you to peruse them for the suggested material connections.
Al-Ashraf Khalil - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Acre, Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kingdom of Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Acre was the last of the Latin Kingdom of Jerusalem. Khalil destroyed it in 1291, after his father "set up" the raid on that city in 1290. Khalil was a muslim ruler.
Hi brother, I have absolutely no problem with you or anyone else questioning anything I write, I was just getting a little tired of all the unfounded and sometimes unscriptural "opinions" that we see posted on the forum. So I freely admit, the way you framed your question irritated me a bit. My apologies.

Bible prophecy was finally opened by two monumental events: the Jews returning to the holy land in 1948 and the freeing of Jerusalem from Gentile control in 1967. Those two events fulfilled more Bible prophecy than anything else that's happened since the resurrection!

If we don't allow ourselves to be blinded by church traditions, it soon becomes obvious from Scripture alone that Islam (not the USSR) is the final enemy of Israel and the church before the return of the Lord. My first book on the subject, "Daniel is Out of Chronological Order" was published in 1983. Five more books followed, the last published in 2007.

But prophecy is now being fulfilled so fast in the Middle East that any book I might write would be out of date before it could be distributed. So instead, we do a continually updated Bible prophecy Study, post it on Fish House Publishing sites like www.EllisSkolfield.com where it and are books still in print may be downloaded for free.

It wasn't my intent to offend you, brother, let's be at peace. <smile>
 

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If they are successful, they would be the tenth!! The 10th Horn of Islam, the Leopard-Bear-Lion beast that has been killing Jews and Christians ever since the days of Muhammad.
And if they are not successful, what then? Do you admit your whole scheme is wrong or do you back to the drawing board and dream up some alteration(s).


If you are not praying every day for our dying brethren over there, you should truly be ashamed.
Jesus also told us to pray for our enemies.


And when the Two Witnesses (the Jewish people in the Gentile church) shall have finished their testimony (after 1948-1967), the Islamic Jihad that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them.
What a fine witness the Jewish state is , a secular nation, who wont even let the Gospel be preached on the streets. Did you ever hear the verse where Jesus said the gates of hades will not over power the church? Matt. 16:18?
 
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And if they are not successful, what then? Do you admit your whole scheme is wrong or do you back to the drawing board and dream up some alteration(s).


Jesus also told us to pray for our enemies.


What a fine witness the Jewish state is , a secular nation, who wont even let the Gospel be preached on the streets. Did you ever hear the verse where Jesus said the gates of hades will not over power the church? Matt. 16:18?
Put Matthew 16:18 together with Daniel 7:21 and Revelation 13:7