Warning! Catholic church is a FALSE religion

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

They don't seem to go to the point of excommunication, but they do say that masonry has irreconcilable differences with Christianity.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/co...ticolo_en.html

Originally Posted by Porphyrios

Minus the fact that its an automatic excommunication from the Catholic Church to join the Freemasons.

Try reading Antioch. Doctoral differences will not matter either with reward or salvation. I do believe there is a line; once you go as far as to believe Jesus Christ is not God and not the only way to salvation--you have crossed the line.

dear roaring kitten the Harlot you were talking about represents babylon the great ,or all false religions on earth....there is only one true religion....and that religion can be identified by their works....most religions teach alse doctrines not just the catholic church....most religions use idol worship,most teach the trinity,most do not even use gods name(Jehovah)so roaring kitten...if you want to condem catholism...how about you spill the beans on what religion you call yourself.???...because im sure there are plenty of scriptures i could use in trying to let you see how to identify the true religion.

[Chopsui101]

All protestants are wrong...and all catholics are wrong...you all follow the wrong day and worship like there is no problem here. You all follow a man and do what he says..that is wrong....so before you point out what someone else is doing wrong look at your own church and see how they twist the bible to fit what they need it to say...you can say they don't but that is just more perversions of what he says

[Abing]

my church is wrong.
i am wrong.
everything in this world is wrong. there is no perfect religion., waiiiiit... its not the religion. religion doesn't matter. it's our personal relationship with God.
it's not my church. it's me and the Lord. and EVERYTHING follows...
we can start reading the ten commandments. the golden rules. the do's and don'ts in the bible. what matters is the relationship we have with God.
If you love me, you will keep my commandments (John 14:15)

Catholicism could be a false religion. yes. and is there a TRUE religion?

PS: I'm not arguing with anyone.

[BLC]

A few points concerning Mary, the mother of the child Jesus.

1. She knew she a woman of low estate, making her a sinner in need of a savior (Luke 1:48). As believer-priests, we do not pray to sinners we pray for sinners.
2. God the Father is the one who had begotten His Son, with no mention of Mary (Heb 5:5). She was only to bear the child and look over him until He was ready to do His Father's business (Luke 2:49).
3. Mary was a vessel, highly favored and chosen 'among' women and not 'above' women (Luke 1:28,42).
4. In (John 2:4) Jesus refers to Mary as 'woman' and also at the cross in (John 19:26).
5. In (Matt 12:48 -50) Jesus is told that His mother and brothers were outside wishing to speak to Him, and He said 'Who is my Mother or brother, but those that do the will of my Father'. (that seems to be a bit unkind toward his mother) The bacground to this scene is that Mary had heard that her son, Jesus, was beside himself (crazy) and they came all the way from Nazareth to take Him back home.
6. Mary was not a high priest, Christ is our High Priest (Heb 3:1, 5:5).
7. We pray in the name of the Lord (not Mary) in John 5:14.
8. In (John 16:26) Jesus said that when He goes back to the Father that, 'Ye shall ask in my name...and I will pray the Father for you'.
9. The Spirit maketh intercession for the saints (Romans 8:26).
10. Christ ever lives to make intercession for the saints (Rom 8:34, Heb 7:25).

* Others referred to Mary as the mother of our Lord (Luke 1:43), but there is no record in scripture that Jesus referred to her as such. Mary, even with child, refered to Him as 'God my Saviour' (Luke 1:47). Mary was favoured, chosen among women, to be the earthen vessel that would bear the Saviour of all mankind. She understood her place, her calling and pondered these things in her heart. She was a loving mother to all her children, even to her son, Jesus, at the cross, but never became anything else in the eyes of God or fellow believers. Any esteem that we give to her outside what the scriptures testify is outside and beyond the calling that God had given to her and should be rejected as such, no matter what the denomination or religion.

yes it is true i too hate the word religion....religion itself is a manmade concept...we are urged to worship in spirit and truth........we attain the truth from the bible.....and it is the annointed remnant which still remain on earth with the help of the holy spirit which give us the spiritual food at the right time......therefore serving god with truth,and giving him exclusive devotion,through our king christ jesus is the way the only way to serve jehovah.

Originally Posted by Chopsui101

All protestants are wrong...and all catholics are wrong...you all follow the wrong day and worship like there is no problem here. You all follow a man and do what he says..that is wrong....so before you point out what someone else is doing wrong look at your own church and see how they twist the bible to fit what they need it to say...you can say they don't but that is just more perversions of what he says

I'm glad I'm not a protestant or a catholic!

Hi. I'm coming into this discussion kind of late. I read the first page and the last. I'm Catholic and go to church nearly every Sunday and I have no idea what all the fuss is about. I admit I'm not big on doctrine. I just go to church to pray and worship God as a group and hear the Gospel and other readings and listen to the priest talk about how following Jesus is saving. I'm not a bible expert but it does say I believe in Luke 22 about the last supper that after sharing the wine and bread, Jesus says do this to remember me and this is where communion comes from. It is symbolic of communion with Christ.

I think it's pretty easy to be influenced into believing this or that about Catholics and running with it but it's alot harder to examine your own ways and divulge your own deficiencies and shortcomings. We all have em.

[roaringkitten]

I have researched the core points of catholicism, and they do not match the Word of God in many areas. Therefore, I put up a red flag.

Even though I disagree, I would ask those who are posting in here to be gentle and love each other. While I am firmly against the catholic belief system, I still LOVE them as people, and love others who may not be in the truth. But I will not compromise love by accepting things that are not of God.

"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good." Romans 12:9

Originally Posted by roaringkitten

I have researched the core points of catholicism, and they do not match the Word of God in many areas. Therefore, I put up a red flag.

Even though I disagree, I would ask those who are posting in here to be gentle and love each other. While I am firmly against the catholic belief system, I still LOVE them as people, and love others who may not be in the truth. But I will not compromise love by accepting things that are not of God.

"Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good." Romans 12:9

What did you find in your research of the Catholic faith and what core 'points' did you research?

I think it's been said somewhere that the important thing is a person's personal relationship with the Lord. I totally agree. A person's religion or what church they go to does not determine whether or not a person is Christian. It's PERSONAL. Therefore, going off on a whole religion is senseless.

[roaringkitten]

praying to Mary, the priest as the mediator, works are necessary to attain salvation/remain saved, mass, etc.......I think I have already covered these points with Scripture. Works will not save anyone. Whatever denomination people belong to, adding works to faith in Christ and/or requiring them to remain saved is a road straight to the lake of fire. I say this in all humbleness, that people will see the truth and be saved.

So I say, if the pope teaches things that are clearly not in the Word of God, then why do people believe him? I spoke with a catholic recently who said that her priest said that followers of the catholic faith are to take the pope at his word, and that he interprets Scripture for the followers. In other words, this person I talked to said she didn't need to read the Bible because the priest said they interpret it for her.

Originally Posted by roaringkitten

praying to Mary, the priest as the mediator, works are necessary to attain salvation/remain saved, mass, etc.......I think I have already covered these points with Scripture. Works will not save anyone. Whatever denomination people belong to, adding works to faith in Christ and/or requiring them to remain saved is a road straight to the lake of fire. I say this in all humbleness, that people will see the truth and be saved.

So I say, if the pope teaches things that are clearly not in the Word of God, then why do people believe him? I spoke with a catholic recently who said that her priest said that followers of the catholic faith are to take the pope at his word, and that he interprets Scripture for the followers. In other words, this person I talked to said she didn't need to read the Bible because the priest said they interpret it for her.

So basically you have done; what every other anti-catholic has done, is look at it with protestant glasses. Did you temp to look for where the Catholics get their core beliefs from in reference to the Bible? Because what you have stated is nothing that hasn't been stated already.

[roaringkitten]

The Word says for ALL to search the Scriptures! Not just those who are in authority!

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." John 5:39

Originally Posted by roaringkitten

The Word says for ALL to search the Scriptures! Not just those who are in authority!

"Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me." John 5:39

Roaringkitten your missing my point. Did you search for the scriptures the Catholic faith builds on? Did you try to find what scripture they have that backs up they core beliefs? Because John 5:39 will as well for the Catholic faith as much it will work for you. Because all I've seen is just labling this and that at mere glance.

i think the 'works 'you are refering to is the commision christ was given when on earth which was to declare the good news and make decipols ....this preaching work was to be done earth wide before the end would come.....so yes faith without works is dead.those of us who do not want blood guilt should be teaching sheep like ones gods truth because faith alone is not enough.if you knew that a terrible storm was on its way and you took refuge ,but did not tell any of your neighbours of the comming storm...wouldn't you feel a little guilty ?well the same goes for christians...the bible tells about the day of gods judgement....it is our commision to let others know about this comming storm

i have a feeling that this roaring kitten better pipe down to a purrr.

[jjkg]

People seem to be confusing a 'dead' faith with a sincere faith. A faith that is dead is basically mere acknowledgement of who Christ is and what He has done. Even the demons believe.... A sincere faith will have works proceed it. It will involve a transformation from old creature to new. It will involve God's blessings pouring into the soul and pouring out of it into the lives of others. What do you guys think?

Roaringkitten. . .I completely agree with you--we need to reach out in love to others. . .that is what God has commanded us to do. It seems like this is just a bash on catholics chat and it is kind of upsetting. I was raised in the catholic church so I very much understand what they believe. I left the church yes but my father and mother still go to it. There are some catholics who don't believe truth yes. . .but some who do. I left because I don't agree with praying to Mary--I think we should only be praying to God but yeah. . .