Divorce and Remarraige

kennethcadwell · Sep 23, 2014

Yes I do
I was answering the question about if a woman is raped and forced to marry then divorces the man.
Our Lord says that sexual immorality divorces frees them from committing adultery if they remarry, for He approves of the divorce if it is done in this manner.
Only if the divorce is done out of another manner besides sexual immorality will they be guilty of adultery if they remarry.

watty · Sep 23, 2014

Here is a question on adultery, how many times can a Christian married couple, husband or wife commit adultery?

kennethcadwell · Sep 23, 2014

watty said:

A Christian couple should not commit adultery.
Now if one or the other does commit adultery by having sexual relations outside of their marriage ( or like our Lord said lusts in their heart for another; not just the physical act ), and then turn and repent of that sin and ask true forgiveness of it and not do it again then our Lord being just will forgive them.

This however does not give a free pass to sin because God knows our heart, and He knows if you are truly sorry in your repentance or if you are asking just so you can get out of punishment and then do it again. ( No true repentance )

watty · Sep 23, 2014

Marriage is a vow or contract between husband, wife, and God. If one commits adultery the contract is broken and all that is left is legal issues. The seal that made the two one is now broken. If one commits adultery do you think in order to be forgiven they should confess this to their spouse? You see adultery sometimes brings kids not from the husband and sooner or later it comes to light.

psychomom · Sep 23, 2014

wow. a lot happens when a person goes to have dinner with her family around here.

*deep breath* ahem...

so, my first comment I will apologize for the spirit of.
I get upset when anyone says there's a sin the blood of Jesus can't cover
or God refuses to cover.
if divorce and remarriage cannot be forgiven, then what chance do any of us have?
any sin, all sin, is wicked and separates us from God.
divorce is bad because it hurts families and hurts married people.

but God! God is in the business of forgiving sinners!
(hooray!)
and other than -the- unpadonable sin, He graciously forgives His own.
and - the- unpardonable, His own wouldn't commit. nuff said.

as to my screen name, it was given me by my children.

some buddies from college were visiting when the older 4 were young to mid teens,
and as they recounted stories of their mom to my kiddos,
the children looked at one another and said, oh! mom wasn't psychotic till she had us.
(I'm hoping they didn't q-u-i-t-e grasp the meaning of that word...lol)
they dubbed me psychomom at that point, and still occasionally use it, lovingly.
and because of that, i love it.

i did ask the founder of the site, during my last tenure here, if he thought i should change the nick.
i didn't want to offend anyone.
he replied he thought it was fine, that people chose names for many different reasons,
so i left it. not trying to pass the buck...just to say it has occurred to me.

finally, to all my friends who defended me...i love you guys. ♥

ps--my favorite thing one of the kids has said was when i was rattling off something that had happened,
lost my place in the story, and my son said,
has anyone seen mom's point?

4enlightment · Sep 23, 2014

watty said:

Once you have lie down with someone, you are married with that someone. And so, if a man that is married to someone else, and lies with a prostitute, he become married to that prostitute and that is why Jesus had said "except for marital unfaithfulness", it is because now that person has disconnected himself from one and he has joined himself together with another. But if the unbeliever like Hagar, has left, then he can reunite back with his wife and become one again.

1 Corinthians 6:16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.”

watty · Sep 23, 2014

4enlightment said:

When a couple gets married they become one in a spiritual manner, not in flesh. Flesh is a bad translation. Look at this scripture:
1 Cor 12:13 KJV
For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.

The body in this scripture is not flesh. The body is Jesus and the Spirit is God. God is a spirit and so is Jesus. When we come together to worship God we are to be of the same heart, same mind, and spirit. What this means is our whole being, mind, spirit, body, and soul are to be focused on God during worship service to God.
Married people are to be of one spirit or on the same accord with each other. When that accord is broken by adultery that accord is split and another spirit is added. Sex connects people. Every person you have or have had sex with is connected to you. If the person you have sex with has had sex with ten people then all 12 of you are connected. God allows those connections to be broken when a marriage takes place by sealing the two, in spirit as one. If adultery take place it can be forgiven and it does not affect the legality of the marriage. However the Spiritual connection and vow to God has been broken. I believe in order to be as one again the couple needs to renew their vows. Renewing your vows will renew your contract and reseal the two as one.

jdbear · Sep 23, 2014

watty said:

I intend to and the men who translated the Bible weren't stand up comedians.

watty · Sep 23, 2014

jdbear said:

I intend to and the men who translated the Bible weren't stand up comedians.[/QUOTE

Please do not take things out of context. I am in no way trying to say the Bible translators were comedians. The Bible translators were scholars who were inspired by God, Richard Pryor was not. Richard Pryor was not inspired by God, he actually was saying there is no Jesus.

jdbear · Sep 23, 2014

watty said:

jdbear said:

Then keep Richard Pryor out out of the conversation.

blue_ladybug · Sep 23, 2014

jdbear said:

watty said:

Amen!! This thread is not about comedians. And it's just disrespectful to make fun of the dead, regardless of whether he believed in Jesus or not. JMO

watty · Sep 23, 2014

blue_ladybug said:

jdbear said:

There is no disrespect to Richard Pryor in anyway. Richard Pryor made this statement public and I have a right to quote his public statements. Richard Pryor like all comedians deliver a message in their act; whether the message is good or bad depends on the listener. Richard Pryor's comedy routines and life is one I have followed for my own reasons. I know his background and know why he said what he said. I have the utmost respect for Richard Pryor. You see I gave no judgment of Richard Pryor, God will do that because he knows his heart.

sassylady · Sep 23, 2014

We are not under a law with rules. God sees the heart and knows each individual situation in the case of divorce. He still hates divorce of course, it is not ideal for anybody. Each person should pray if they do meet somebody to see what God's will is if there has been a divorce. I've know plenty of divorced Christians that only divorced when they believed they had God's word it was right, and only remarried after much prayer and fasting.

4enlightment · Sep 23, 2014

watty said:

Luke 23:42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”

I believe that when you remember someone, that you are keeping that person spirit in you, and so if a person keeping the memories that they have had with a prostitute, that person and the prostitute are one in spirit; but if the man remembered, but the prostitute doesn't, then they aren't one. That is why we are not to lust after anything.

Matthew 6:21
For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

presidente · Sep 23, 2014

Revelator7 said:

That doesn't explain this verse
Matthew 19[SUP]9 [/SUP]I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.”
(NIV)

Here, the man remarries.

presidente · Sep 23, 2014

kennethcadwell said:

In the Old Testament, only a man could divorce a woman and not vice versa. Some men, including Abraham, Jacob, and David were polygamous. Women were not allowed to have multiple husbands at the same time.

In Matthew 19, Jesus says that if a man divorces his wife, except it be for fornication, and marry another, he commits adultery.

Where does the Bible allow a woman to divorce and remarry if her husband commits adultery or fornication?

kennethcadwell · Sep 23, 2014

presidente said:

First of all it does work both ways.
You have to realize the bible was written in a masculine way because of the area it came from.
Man did and still holds dominance over women over there. The new covenant states men as still head of household, but that men and women are equal in how they should be treated and rights.

presidente · Sep 24, 2014

kennethcadwell said:

Marriage is treated differently under the very law Jesus is commenting on. Divorce was a one-way street. If a married man slept with a virgin girl, he had to take her as his second wife. If a woman went out and slept with a virgin man, she was stoned.

The only comment about a woman putting away her husband and marrying another in the New Testament is a statement in which Christ calls it adultery.

Paul wrote this in an analogy about the law.

Romans 7
[SUP]2 [/SUP]For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. [SUP]3 [/SUP]So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man. (NIV)

presidente · Sep 24, 2014

Agricola said:

I'm all for God telling people different things and putting people together, but how do you judge if it is the Lord who is speaking.

I just read an article which stated that a pastor thought he got a 'nudge' from Jesus to endorse gay marriage. I don't believe Jesus nudged Him in that direction.

What role does the Bible play in your opinion in determining whether a relationship is from God or not? or in determining whether God is speaking or not?

Stevenmd · Sep 24, 2014

Originally Posted by Revelator7

biblically, women were made for men, not the other way around.
Scripture please.

genesis 2[SUP]18 [/SUP]The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now the Lord God had formed out of the ground all the beasts of the field and all the birds of the air. He brought them to the man to see what he would name them; and whatever the man called each living creature, that was its name. [SUP]20 [/SUP]So the man gave names to all the livestock, the birds of the air and all the beasts of the field.
But for Adam no suitable helper was found. [SUP]21 [/SUP]So the Lord God caused the man to fall into a deep sleep; and while he was sleeping, he took one of the man’s ribs and closed up the place with flesh. [SUP]22 [/SUP]Then the Lord God made a woman from the rib he had taken out of the man, and he brought her to the man.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called ‘woman,’

for she was taken out of man.”

[SUP]24 [/SUP]For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.
The Holy Bible : New International Version. 1996, c1984 (electronic ed.) (Ge 2:18-24). Grand Rapids: Zondervan.

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