There are many gospel messages throughout Scripture but only one gospel message for the Church Age for salvation. The gospel message was revealed after the resurrection. It is trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ for sins. The gospel of the kingdom included the covenant promise to Israel concerning an earthly kingdom to be ruled by an earthly Jewish King, therefore, this message was not for Gentiles or even Samaritans.
Christ's Gospel? Paul's Gospel?
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There are some differences! For example, in Matthew 23:2 the Lord Jesus, said:
[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
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In His earthly ministry Jesus taught obedience to the Law of Moses, whereas Paul taught otherwise. Who should we follow, in this specific case? Paul, of course, because the apostle's teachings were actually Jesus' teachings for the new covenant.
[FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]2 “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat.[/FONT][FONT="] [/FONT][FONT="]3 So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach.
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In His earthly ministry Jesus taught obedience to the Law of Moses, whereas Paul taught otherwise. Who should we follow, in this specific case? Paul, of course, because the apostle's teachings were actually Jesus' teachings for the new covenant.
I believe that when Jesus said "turn the other cheek", He was bringing the Law to perfection (fulfilling it).
It is evident that Jesus taught obedience to the law of Moses (you must be careful to do everything they -- the scribes and Pharisees -- tell you).
Note: See the meaning of TO FULFILL below.
[FONT="]The translation of "to fulfill" is [/FONT]lekayem[FONT="] in Hebrew (le-KAI-yem), which means to uphold or establish, as well as to fulfill, complete or accomplish.[/FONT][FONT="][SUP]2[/SUP][/FONT][FONT="] David Bivin has pointed out that the phrase "fulfill the Law" is often used as an idiom to mean[/FONT] to properly interpret the Torah[FONT="] so that people can obey it as God really intends. The word "abolish" was likely either [/FONT]levatel[FONT="], to nullify, or [/FONT]la'akor[FONT="], to uproot, which meant[/FONT] to undermine the Torah by misinterpreting it.
It is evident that Jesus taught obedience to the law of Moses (you must be careful to do everything they -- the scribes and Pharisees -- tell you).
Note: See the meaning of TO FULFILL below.
[FONT="]The translation of "to fulfill" is [/FONT]lekayem[FONT="] in Hebrew (le-KAI-yem), which means to uphold or establish, as well as to fulfill, complete or accomplish.[/FONT][FONT="][SUP]2[/SUP][/FONT][FONT="] David Bivin has pointed out that the phrase "fulfill the Law" is often used as an idiom to mean[/FONT] to properly interpret the Torah[FONT="] so that people can obey it as God really intends. The word "abolish" was likely either [/FONT]levatel[FONT="], to nullify, or [/FONT]la'akor[FONT="], to uproot, which meant[/FONT] to undermine the Torah by misinterpreting it.
I agree! The old covenant was still in force among the Jews.
The teachings of Jesus on earth are eternal, but obedience of some of them are not required for salvation. Jesus told the disciples to sell their properties and give alms and in Acts we see them obeying this commandment. Paul, however, never said anything about selling properties and giving alms.
The teachings of Jesus on earth are eternal, but obedience of some of them are not required for salvation. Jesus told the disciples to sell their properties and give alms and in Acts we see them obeying this commandment. Paul, however, never said anything about selling properties and giving alms.
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The turn the cheek message is a kingdom message when Christ is King. In other words, don't take matters into your own hands, I will be ruling with a rod of iron. It will be my kingdom to rule.
Paul amends the message to, if possible, live peaceably with others. In other words, there may be times where you can not turn the other cheek because the other party is not seeking peace and self defense is the answer.
Paul amends the message to, if possible, live peaceably with others. In other words, there may be times where you can not turn the other cheek because the other party is not seeking peace and self defense is the answer.
Hold on! Do you know what "The Kingdom of God" is? We have to use Scripture for a definition of "The Kingdom of GOD!" In I Corinthians 4:20 Paul defines "The Kingdom of God" when he said "For the Kingdom of God is not in talking, but in *POWER*" and Jesus defined "POWER" in Acts 1:8 when HE SAID "But ye shall receive POWER after that the Holy Spirit is come upon you..." Therefore, the Kingdom of God is the "POWER" that we receive "...AFTER THAT the Holy Spirit is come upon us" by being Holy Spirit baptized.
The torch was passed to Paul when he was "chosen" by JESUS (Acts 9:15) to "fulfill the Word of God" (Colossians 1:25). Paul said in Galatians 1:12 "For I neither received it from man nor was I taught it but by REVELATION from Jesus Christ." Therefore Paul received "REVELATION" directly from Jesus Christ.
The Gospel of Christ which is "The Gospel of Spirit" for "Christ is SPIRIT" and is what Paul taught as evidenced in Romans 1:16 when he said "The Gospel of Christ" *IS* "the POWER of GOD" the same "POWER" that was mentioned in Acts 1:8 in which JESUS SAID we would receive "AFTER THAT the Holy Spirit [baptism] is come upon us."
Consequently, Paul having "fulfilled the Word of God" had the final say so as to how we should "worship Jesus." JESUS SAID "TRUE WORSHIPERS" *MUST* worship in spirit and in truth" (John 4:23-24) for they are whom "the Father seeketh."
The "POWER" we receive AFTER Holy Spirit baptism begins "Working in us" (Philippians 2:13) by the "operation of God" who "Teaches us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:12).
Blessings
The torch was passed to Paul when he was "chosen" by JESUS (Acts 9:15) to "fulfill the Word of God" (Colossians 1:25). Paul said in Galatians 1:12 "For I neither received it from man nor was I taught it but by REVELATION from Jesus Christ." Therefore Paul received "REVELATION" directly from Jesus Christ.
The Gospel of Christ which is "The Gospel of Spirit" for "Christ is SPIRIT" and is what Paul taught as evidenced in Romans 1:16 when he said "The Gospel of Christ" *IS* "the POWER of GOD" the same "POWER" that was mentioned in Acts 1:8 in which JESUS SAID we would receive "AFTER THAT the Holy Spirit [baptism] is come upon us."
Consequently, Paul having "fulfilled the Word of God" had the final say so as to how we should "worship Jesus." JESUS SAID "TRUE WORSHIPERS" *MUST* worship in spirit and in truth" (John 4:23-24) for they are whom "the Father seeketh."
The "POWER" we receive AFTER Holy Spirit baptism begins "Working in us" (Philippians 2:13) by the "operation of God" who "Teaches us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world" (Titus 2:12).
Blessings
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Christ's Gospel? Paul's Gospel?
Are they different? Or are they complementary? Is Paul's Gospel 'his', or is it God's Gospel embraced by him? Are Paul's (and the other apostolic writings in the New Covenant Scriptures) what Jesus alluded to in John 16?
I was asked this question in an email recently:
"Another question, some at hrm [Hebrew Roots Movement/Torah pursuant folks] say there is the gospel of Jesus vs the gospel of Paul. Basically they teach that Paul wrote his own gospel even though Jesus clearly stated after his death burial and resurrection there would be more to come(information)."
My response:
That's a great question! In John 16, Jesus says this:
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Jesus is clearly telling His disciples that there is more truth to come that they, on that side of the Cross, could not, would not understand.
The Work of the Cross, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and His Perfect High Priesthood all needed to be in place before the fullness of the Gospel of Grace could be explained.
With the implications to the Law and Israel's relationship with it and God, when you think about it, it kinda had to be Paul to receive that revelation of the Gospel of Grace.
Paul was a Pharisee of the highest reputation, knowing the Law inside and out. For him to embrace the Gospel of Grace, which he proclaimed to be 'his' Gospel, was huge. To address that question real quick, Paul, by the end of his letter to the Romans states that it is 'his' Gospel, not in an 'I thought it up and created it' way, but in an 'I now embrace this as my Good News, applied to my life - the New Covenant, superior to the Old Covenant for which I had such passion' way.
Note that in Romans 1 Paul says this:
16 For I am not ashamed of >>> the <<< gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. 17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”
At the beginning of the letter to the Romans it is 'the' Gospel, and the letter to the Romans is a treatise on our
>>> need <<< for the Gospel for Jews and Gentiles alike, the
>>> supply <<< of the Gospel for Jews and Gentiles alike, and the
>>> results <<< of the Gospel for Jews and Gentiles alike.
And Paul expertly weaves the proper use of the Law and the application and superiority of Grace throughout - at the end proclaiming, as a former Pharisee Law-keeper, that this is *his* Gospel - a Gospel that he embraces himself, after having gone through the issues of Law and Grace point by point throughout the letter (and also in his other letters).
Now read Paul's closing comments in Romans 16:
25 Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages 26 but has now been disclosed and through the prophetic writings has been made known to all nations,
>>> according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedience of faith— <<<
27 to the only wise God be glory forevermore through Jesus Christ! Amen.
So the Gospel that Paul preached was not a gospel apart from Christ's, but Paul's and other apostolic New Covenant writings were the fulfillment of what Christ said in John 16.
Paul minces no words here when establishing the source for what he was teaching to the Galatians:
11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel. 12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it,
>>> but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. <<<
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it. 14 And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, 16
>>> was pleased to reveal his Son to me, <<<
in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone; 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
One thing to note here, as well, is that Jesus said that the Spirit of Truth would point to and glorify Christ - not to point to and glorify the Law, but to Christ, which is what Paul and the other apostles do all throughout the New Covenant Scriptures.
God was no longer relating to mankind - nor was He desiring mankind to relate to Him - through the Law, but through the Work and Person of God in the flesh, Christ Jesus.
So Paul (and the others) were not writing their own 'gospels'; they were carrying out the fulfillment of Jesus' words in John 16 - they were receiving that further information that could be understood on the side of the Cross where they now lived and we do too - revealing what was actually accomplished at the Cross, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and with the High Priesthood of Christ - and writing it down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
(I found the photo at a pro-Islam think tank site, btw. Funny, they use the same arguments that HRMers tend to use!)
Grace and peace to you in our Lord, Jesus Christ!
-JGIG
Christ's Gospel? Paul's Gospel?
Are they different? Or are they complementary? Is Paul's Gospel 'his', or is it God's Gospel embraced by him? Are Paul's (and the other apostolic writings in the New Covenant Scriptures) what Jesus alluded to in John 16?
I was asked this question in an email recently:
"Another question, some at hrm [Hebrew Roots Movement/Torah pursuant folks] say there is the gospel of Jesus vs the gospel of Paul. Basically they teach that Paul wrote his own gospel even though Jesus clearly stated after his death burial and resurrection there would be more to come(information)."
My response:
That's a great question! In John 16, Jesus says this:
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Jesus is clearly telling His disciples that there is more truth to come that they, on that side of the Cross, could not, would not understand.
The Work of the Cross, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and His Perfect High Priesthood all needed to be in place before the fullness of the Gospel of Grace could be explained.
With the implications to the Law and Israel's relationship with it and God, when you think about it, it kinda had to be Paul to receive that revelation of the Gospel of Grace.
Paul was a Pharisee of the highest reputation, knowing the Law inside and out. For him to embrace the Gospel of Grace, which he proclaimed to be 'his' Gospel, was huge. To address that question real quick, Paul, by the end of his letter to the Romans states that it is 'his' Gospel, not in an 'I thought it up and created it' way, but in an 'I now embrace this as my Good News, applied to my life - the New Covenant, superior to the Old Covenant for which I had such passion' way.
Note that in Romans 1 Paul says this:
16 For I am not ashamed of >>> the <<< gospel, because it is the power of God that brings salvation to everyone who believes: first to the Jew, then to the Gentile. 17 For in the gospel the righteousness of God is revealed—a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: “The righteous will live by faith.”
At the beginning of the letter to the Romans it is 'the' Gospel, and the letter to the Romans is a treatise on our
>>> need <<< for the Gospel for Jews and Gentiles alike, the
>>> supply <<< of the Gospel for Jews and Gentiles alike, and the
>>> results <<< of the Gospel for Jews and Gentiles alike.
And Paul expertly weaves the proper use of the Law and the application and superiority of Grace throughout - at the end proclaiming, as a former Pharisee Law-keeper, that this is *his* Gospel - a Gospel that he embraces himself, after having gone through the issues of Law and Grace point by point throughout the letter (and also in his other letters).
Now read Paul's closing comments in Romans 16:
25 Now to him who is able to strengthen you according to my gospel and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery that was kept secret for long ages 26 but has now been disclosed and through the prophetic writings has been made known to all nations,
>>> according to the command of the eternal God, to bring about the obedience of faith— <<<
27 to the only wise God be glory forevermore through Jesus Christ! Amen.
Paul minces no words here when establishing the source for what he was teaching to the Galatians:
11 For I would have you know, brothers, that the gospel that was preached by me is not man's gospel. 12 For I did not receive it from any man, nor was I taught it,
>>> but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ. <<<
13 For you have heard of my former life in Judaism, how I persecuted the church of God violently and tried to destroy it. 14 And I was advancing in Judaism beyond many of my own age among my people, so extremely zealous was I for the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when he who had set me apart before I was born, and who called me by his grace, 16
>>> was pleased to reveal his Son to me, <<<
in order that I might preach him among the Gentiles, I did not immediately consult with anyone; 17 nor did I go up to Jerusalem to those who were apostles before me, but I went away into Arabia, and returned again to Damascus.
One thing to note here, as well, is that Jesus said that the Spirit of Truth would point to and glorify Christ - not to point to and glorify the Law, but to Christ, which is what Paul and the other apostles do all throughout the New Covenant Scriptures.
God was no longer relating to mankind - nor was He desiring mankind to relate to Him - through the Law, but through the Work and Person of God in the flesh, Christ Jesus.
So Paul (and the others) were not writing their own 'gospels'; they were carrying out the fulfillment of Jesus' words in John 16 - they were receiving that further information that could be understood on the side of the Cross where they now lived and we do too - revealing what was actually accomplished at the Cross, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and with the High Priesthood of Christ - and writing it down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
(I found the photo at a pro-Islam think tank site, btw. Funny, they use the same arguments that HRMers tend to use!)
Grace and peace to you in our Lord, Jesus Christ!
-JGIG
Source of the gospel is Christ, not Paul. There isn't Paul gospel
"In John 16, Jesus says this:
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Jesus is clearly telling His disciples that there is more truth to come that they, on that side of the Cross, could not, would not understand.
The Work of the Cross, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and His Perfect High Priesthood all needed to be in place before the fullness of the Gospel of Grace could be explained."
THE DISCIPLES COULDN'T "UNDERSTAND" BEFORE THE CROSS BECAUSE THEY HAD "NO GUIDANCE" FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO IS "THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH" (JOHN 16:13)!
BEFORE THE CROSS JESUS "KEPT THEM" (JOHN 17:12) BUT DURING HIS DEPARTURE SPEECH HE TOLD THE DISCIPLES "THE FATHER WILL SEND YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER" (JOHN 14:16) JESUS (JOHN 14:18) WHO IS "THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH" OR "THE HOLY SPIRIT!
AFTER THE CROSS IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT "EXPLAINS" THROUGH "REVELATION" WHICH JESUS SAID HIS "CHURCH WAS GOING TO BE BUILT UPON" (MATTHEW 16:17-18)!
"...HE WILL *GUIDE* YOU INTO ALL TRUTH..." (JOHN 16:13).
12 “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. 13 When the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come. 14 He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you. 15 All that the Father has is mine; therefore I said that he will take what is mine and declare it to you.
Jesus is clearly telling His disciples that there is more truth to come that they, on that side of the Cross, could not, would not understand.
The Work of the Cross, the Resurrection, the Ascension, and His Perfect High Priesthood all needed to be in place before the fullness of the Gospel of Grace could be explained."
THE DISCIPLES COULDN'T "UNDERSTAND" BEFORE THE CROSS BECAUSE THEY HAD "NO GUIDANCE" FROM THE HOLY SPIRIT WHO IS "THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH" (JOHN 16:13)!
BEFORE THE CROSS JESUS "KEPT THEM" (JOHN 17:12) BUT DURING HIS DEPARTURE SPEECH HE TOLD THE DISCIPLES "THE FATHER WILL SEND YOU ANOTHER COMFORTER" (JOHN 14:16) JESUS (JOHN 14:18) WHO IS "THE SPIRIT OF TRUTH" OR "THE HOLY SPIRIT!
AFTER THE CROSS IT IS THE HOLY SPIRIT THAT "EXPLAINS" THROUGH "REVELATION" WHICH JESUS SAID HIS "CHURCH WAS GOING TO BE BUILT UPON" (MATTHEW 16:17-18)!
"...HE WILL *GUIDE* YOU INTO ALL TRUTH..." (JOHN 16:13).
There is only one gospel in this dispensation and in 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, Paul clearly states: 1 Moreover, brethren, I declare to you the gospel which I preached to you, which also you received and in which you stand, 2 by which also you are saved, if you hold fast that word which I preached to you--unless you believed in vain. 3 For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures.
In Ephesians 3:1-9, Paul clearly states: 1 - For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, 3 how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, 4 by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6 that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7 of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power. 8 To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ.
This is the "good news" that the apostle Paul preached after the cross, but does this share the exact same content as the "good news" that the twelve, John the Baptist, and Jesus Christ were preaching before the cross? They were still preaching the "good news" gospel of the kingdom to Israel. This is where it gets a little deep.
If the gospel of the kingdom, prior to the cross has the exact same content as the gospel of grace after the cross, then Matthew 10:5-7; 16:21-22; Mark 16:14; Luke 18:31-34; 24:19-24, 44-47, along with Ephesians 3:1-9 are superfluous verses. Before the cross, the gospel of grace that Paul taught and came to him through a revelation of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12) was said to still be a mystery.
I've heard certain people say that the gospel Paul preached was preached as far back as Moses and even Adam, yet I see no evidence in scripture for this. I've heard people confuse the gospel "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ with everything that is written in the 4 gospel accounts. Some people call the entire Bible the gospel and Mormons have added the Book of Mormon to the Bible and call that the "fullness" of the gospel, so as we can see there is much confusion out there in regards to what the gospel is and there are those who pervert the gospel by teaching salvation by "grace plus law, faith plus works." (Galatians 1:6-9)
In Ephesians 3:1-9, Paul clearly states: 1 - For this reason I, Paul, the prisoner of Christ Jesus for you Gentiles— 2 if indeed you have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which was given to me for you, 3 how that by revelation He made known to me the mystery (as I have briefly written already, 4 by which, when you read, you may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ), 5 which in other ages was not made known to the sons of men, as it has now been revealed by the Spirit to His holy apostles and prophets: 6 that the Gentiles should be fellow heirs, of the same body, and partakers of His promise in Christ through the gospel, 7 of which I became a minister according to the gift of the grace of God given to me by the effective working of His power. 8 To me, who am less than the least of all the saints, this grace was given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ, 9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ.
This is the "good news" that the apostle Paul preached after the cross, but does this share the exact same content as the "good news" that the twelve, John the Baptist, and Jesus Christ were preaching before the cross? They were still preaching the "good news" gospel of the kingdom to Israel. This is where it gets a little deep.
If the gospel of the kingdom, prior to the cross has the exact same content as the gospel of grace after the cross, then Matthew 10:5-7; 16:21-22; Mark 16:14; Luke 18:31-34; 24:19-24, 44-47, along with Ephesians 3:1-9 are superfluous verses. Before the cross, the gospel of grace that Paul taught and came to him through a revelation of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12) was said to still be a mystery.
I've heard certain people say that the gospel Paul preached was preached as far back as Moses and even Adam, yet I see no evidence in scripture for this. I've heard people confuse the gospel "good news" of the death, burial and resurrection of Christ with everything that is written in the 4 gospel accounts. Some people call the entire Bible the gospel and Mormons have added the Book of Mormon to the Bible and call that the "fullness" of the gospel, so as we can see there is much confusion out there in regards to what the gospel is and there are those who pervert the gospel by teaching salvation by "grace plus law, faith plus works." (Galatians 1:6-9)
This multiple gospel claim presumes a distinction between the Jewish and Gentile believers. This is the most important tenant (according to Dispensational scholars) of Dispensationalism. John Darby created this distinction (along with the need for multiple gospels), and Dispensationalism in general, to support his belief in the Pre-trib rapture.
He knew that Matt 24 clearly contradicted the Pre-trib rapture so he invented this separation between the Jews and the church so Matt 24 would not contradict his belief. If he could claim that Matt 24 was for only for the Jews (and invent multiple gospels to go with it), then he could still preach the Pre-trib rapture.
As best as I can tell from investigating it some years ago, the pre-trib rapture belief came out of the Albury Prophesy Conferences in England (at the Albury estate near London) in the late 1820's. They published their proceedings in annual volumes called, "Dialogs on Prophesy". And in them, one can clearly find most of the beginnings of Dispensationalism. (I have copies of many pages from these volumes that clearly prove it.)
Darby got the pre-trib rapture (and other Dispensational concepts) from attendees of these conferences a few years later at the Powerscourt Prophesy Conferences (there is clear documentation about all of this) and for the rest of his life developed Dispensationalism to support it.
The reason Dispensationalists are so adamant about proclaiming the two peoples of God (and the different gospels that go with it) is because without it, there is no justification for the pre-trib rapture.
The pre-trib rapture existed before Dispensationalism and Dispensationalism was specifically created by John Darby to justify a pre-trib rapture.
Regarding there being more than one gospel, Paul makes it absolutely clear what he thinks about multiple gospels.
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8. But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel other than the one we preached to you, let him be eternally condemned!
9. As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you a gospel other than what you accepted, let him be eternally condemned!
I think it is a rather serious issue for Dispensationalists to proclaim more that one gospel just so they can have their pre-trib rapture.
With respect,
Earnest
As I said earlier, this is only one gospel unto salvation during the Church Age (after Christ's death leading up to the rapture) that leads the lost unto eternal salvation. 1 Cor. 15:3-4.
There are other gospel messages for different dispensations. Not all these messages as I see them, lead to eternal salvation, but is good news for the intended audience.
I don't consider myself as much a dispensationalist, but more a believer who rightly divides the word of truth.
There are other gospel messages for different dispensations. Not all these messages as I see them, lead to eternal salvation, but is good news for the intended audience.
I don't consider myself as much a dispensationalist, but more a believer who rightly divides the word of truth.
There IS but one "gospel" and that is "The Gospel of Christ" (Romans 1:16) and "Christ is SPIRIT" therefore the "gospel" is "The Gospel of SPIRIT!"
If you notice in Romans 1:16 Paul said ...IT IS THE POWER ["OPERATION" Colossians 2:12] OF GOD..." because THE SPIRIT now OPERATES "in us" (Philippians 2:13) and "There is NOTHING that a man can do in the flesh to please GOD" (Romans 8:8).
When men continue to TRY and "worship GOD with their hands" (Acts 17:23-25) e.g. water baptisms and setting up a table (Hebrews 9:1-14) they DEFY SCRIPTURE!
JESUS SAID "TRUE WORSHIPERS *MUST* worship in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship HIM." (John 4:23-24)!
Blessings
If you notice in Romans 1:16 Paul said ...IT IS THE POWER ["OPERATION" Colossians 2:12] OF GOD..." because THE SPIRIT now OPERATES "in us" (Philippians 2:13) and "There is NOTHING that a man can do in the flesh to please GOD" (Romans 8:8).
When men continue to TRY and "worship GOD with their hands" (Acts 17:23-25) e.g. water baptisms and setting up a table (Hebrews 9:1-14) they DEFY SCRIPTURE!
JESUS SAID "TRUE WORSHIPERS *MUST* worship in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship HIM." (John 4:23-24)!
Blessings
There IS but one "gospel" and that is "The Gospel of Christ" (Romans 1:16) and "Christ is SPIRIT" therefore the "gospel" is "The Gospel of SPIRIT!"
If you notice in Romans 1:16 Paul said ...IT IS THE POWER ["OPERATION" Colossians 2:12] OF GOD..." because THE SPIRIT now OPERATES "in us" (Philippians 2:13) and "There is NOTHING that a man can do in the flesh to please GOD" (Romans 8:8).
When men continue to TRY and "worship GOD with their hands" (Acts 17:23-25) e.g. water baptisms and setting up a table (Hebrews 9:1-14) they DEFY SCRIPTURE!
JESUS SAID "TRUE WORSHIPERS *MUST* worship in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship HIM." (John 4:23-24)!
Blessings
If you notice in Romans 1:16 Paul said ...IT IS THE POWER ["OPERATION" Colossians 2:12] OF GOD..." because THE SPIRIT now OPERATES "in us" (Philippians 2:13) and "There is NOTHING that a man can do in the flesh to please GOD" (Romans 8:8).
When men continue to TRY and "worship GOD with their hands" (Acts 17:23-25) e.g. water baptisms and setting up a table (Hebrews 9:1-14) they DEFY SCRIPTURE!
JESUS SAID "TRUE WORSHIPERS *MUST* worship in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship HIM." (John 4:23-24)!
Blessings