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Default The reason for TY's ban

We don't generally make a public post about bans, but this case kind of warrants it. TY has been public on Facebook about his ban, and some are making judgments about the decision, and reaching negative conclusions about the site because of the decision.

I banned him because he brought his real life drama in to chat, then bothered someone in PM, within chat, by initiating the harassing PM with someone who was minding their own business in chat.

This person was minding their own business in chat, yet TY took it upon himself to initiate a PM in chat with said person where he:

1. Judged her by calling her ungodly.
2. Seemed to insinuate she was involved in some sexual sin.
3. Bothered her after being asked by her to leave her alone.
4. Accused her of something based on hearsay.
5. Accuses her of starting drama, when it was HIM who started the drama by initiating the PM.
6. Insults her by calling her a jerk.

Here are the transcripts to back up the charges above.

1. Judged her by calling her ungodly.

Ty: you will not EVER get over
yourself
Ty: drugatic
Ty: sleep with guys
Ty: Yes I went ther!
Ty: there**
Ty: That is who you are
Ty: I have tried to help you from day
1
Ty: not anymore
Ty: You are an un-godly person
Ty: I am praying for you Tyran
Ty: I am
Ty: I do have him


2. Seemed to insinuate she was involved in some sexual sin.

Ty: you will not EVER get over
yourself
Ty: drugatic
Ty: sleep with guys
Ty: Yes I went ther!
Ty: there**

Ty: That is who you are
Ty: I have tried to help you from day
1
Ty: not anymore
Ty: You are an un-godly person
Ty: I am praying for you Tyran
Ty: I am
Ty: I do have him


3. Bothered her after being asked by her to leave her alone.

Ty: ask her
Ty: nothing?
Ty: I didnt think so
AwesomeKid_12: y dont u just leave
me alone

Ty: Everytime you dont like
something
Ty: you whine
Ty: you say I am going to go do
drugs
AwesomeKid_12: so do u who crys
with liz if he doesnt get his was
Ty: I am going to commit suicide

4. Accused her of something based on hearsay.

AwesomeKid_12: who did i say that
too
Ty: I am not sure
Ty: But I know it was said
AwesomeKid_12: cant prove i said it if
u have no clue who i supposedly said
Ty: Then why did you tell them the
other day that the only way it will
ever work is if Lizzie gets rid of me
completely
AwesomeKid_12: who did i say that
too
Ty: I am not sure
Ty: But I know it was said
AwesomeKid_12: cant prove i said it if
u have no clue who i supposedly said
AwesomeKid_12: ya no i dont no wut

ur problem is but im not letting u affect
me anymore just saying


5. Accuses her of starting drama, when it was HIM who started the drama by initiating the PM.

Ty: Your the one causing the DRAMA
right now
AwesomeKid_12: ur the one who just
pmed me rite now when i was ignoring
everyone and everything so who was
causeing the drama
Ty: Not ignoring everyone

Ty: Stuff was going on at the

6. Insults her by calling her a jerk.


Ty: I am not stupid!
Ty: I am sick of your drama
Ty: I am sick of your drama
Ty: I am sick of your drama
Ty: Good job!
Ty: Congratualations!
Ty: You got what you wanted
Ty: sh blocked me on FB
Ty: Thanks alot
Ty: JERK
AwesomeKid_12: who r u talking to
like that
_________

Ty may say she's the one causing drama and he's just defending himself. That really isn't relevant. Chat isn't the place to settle your real life feuds with people. Us moderators aren't here to solve your real life problems. We have enough to deal with, with onsite drama. We don't need to wade through their personal stuff too, in most circumstances.

Ty may say I banned him without knowing the full story of their real life drama. Again that's not relevant. I'm here to deal with issues within chat. The issue within chat is that he initiated contact and did the above things in chat! I don't need to know the other side of his real life drama, to know that he initiated said PM with Awesomekid and harassed, judged and insulted her within chat. Even if I did know the other side of the story to this real life drama, it wouldn't justify what he brought in to chat and did to someone who was minding their own business in a chat room.

Bottom line, this girl was minding her own business in chat. Ty initiated contact with her. Stirred up drama. He kept it up and that's why he's banned.
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Default Re: The reason for TY's ban

This thread is closed because I really don't have the time to go endlessly back and forth with people over a ban. This is why we don't make a habit of publishing MOST bans in the first place. Mods don't have the time to sit around explaining and debating it all day!

Some may say I'm not giving the whole context of the PM here and I'm just using snippets. This doesn't negate the fact that TY initiated said PM! It doesn't negate the fact the he brought said drama in to chat and initiated with said chatter. It doesn't negate the fact that he said what he said.

None of the above would have occurred if he had decided NOT to drag his real life drama in to chat and bother someone who was simply minding their own business.
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How To Dismantle A Futurist

1. Show the near/soon wording of Rev. 1 and 22.
2. Read Olivet discourse. Show temple destruction is expected in their life time.
3. Inform that destruction of temple in AD 70 is a BIG deal.
4. Point out the historical events that line up with Daniels weeks.
5. Use history from that time period and place.

(These views are mine and not necessarily those of CC.)
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