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Evolutionists can make their arguments sound powerful, but when you get into the details, they're in trouble. Why were peppered moths ever in the textbooks as examples of evolution, when it was always known that the black and white genes existed from the start? Because Evolutionists don't have real examples of evolution to put into text books. Instead, the point to peppered moths or arrange ape and human skulls in a line, where the crossover is blurred.
Yes. In 1984 a fire destroyed our stuff in storage. In there were all my 1962 & 1963 high school texts, 2 for biology, and two college freshman/junior biology texts (1963-1964). All three had Piltdown Man presented as proof of human/ape evolution. I bit into that hook line and sinker, telling some folks they were fools to not believe that. The whole story was already found to be a hoax back in 1953, but remained in American classrooms. Probably the greatest science hoax by scientists in history. Today hoaxers have pc CAD apps to create intriguing evidences that have no actual basis other than ideas, and that is mostly what students are looking at. The spirit of Piltdown Man lives among evolutionists. Scientists and education scholars wrote those Piltdown articles for the textbooks, as is today. The poison lingers.
Anyway, I wonder who else might have an answer to the OP? I'm looking for scriptures offered by someone else, and some discussion of those. Anyone else want to get back on topic?
Anyway, I wonder who else might have an answer to the OP? I'm looking for scriptures offered by someone else, and some discussion of those. Anyone else want to get back on topic?
we have pigmies in Africa that are still considered human...
There's a huge variation in ape and human skulls. Even more so when you consider diseased, deformed, and damaged skulls. And, ape skulls are the most human-like skulls in the animal kingdom, to start with. With or without Evolution, I'd expect to have trouble distinguish all the skulls, especially as I lack the expertise to know what to look for to distinguish the two.
Actually I figure a very low percent of high school grads could define it correctly. I retired from working in biology fields, and all along including college there just never was time to consider evolution or creation for that matter. The work is hard in any branch of that discipline, Whatever spare time folks had many other topics to talk about that might actually benefit us. That probably tended to help keep many friends. Real life scientists and associated technicians avoid troublesome talk. But some have written science books that have to be defended to keep them selling. Follow the money.
Students of science need the basics of actual science. Evolution is not science. It is a belief. There is way too much real science now for anyone in whatever grade of education to spend time on CvE. Learn fundamentals, then discuss and debate using what you learned. My children came home with materials that showed the teachers had a poor grasp of evolution, but were excellent in the basics. I taught them what they needed, but made them keep their mouths shut about it around those teachers. Preachers won't preach the subject because they can't get enough information out in 45 minutes. Christians are apparently having too much trouble even reading the Bible, much less contemplating the subject. So it is I believe a tiny fraction of Christians and secular folks have a clue about evolution or creation science.
Students of science need the basics of actual science. Evolution is not science. It is a belief. There is way too much real science now for anyone in whatever grade of education to spend time on CvE. Learn fundamentals, then discuss and debate using what you learned. My children came home with materials that showed the teachers had a poor grasp of evolution, but were excellent in the basics. I taught them what they needed, but made them keep their mouths shut about it around those teachers. Preachers won't preach the subject because they can't get enough information out in 45 minutes. Christians are apparently having too much trouble even reading the Bible, much less contemplating the subject. So it is I believe a tiny fraction of Christians and secular folks have a clue about evolution or creation science.
In only a few thousand years? Can you even fathom the number of species that exist today?
That's not how evolution works. Speciation occurs when one group of species is divided and divided groups do not interbreed.
Can you prove this through scientific means?
Again, this isn't how DNA works. In fact, I'm not sure what you mean by "DNA strands". Are you referring to chromosomes? If so, understand that the number of chromosomes within a species doesn't actually matter. You can learn more here: Basics: How can chromosome numbers change? – Pharyngula
List of organisms by chromosome count - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Most mutations are very subtle and often unnoticeable with rare exceptions. Some mutations make plants and animals more prone to certain illnesses and others make them more immune.
1. From the start of what?
2. The peppered moth experiment helps us understand natural selection.
3. You're confusing common alleles with mutations.
Mutations alter genes, and those genes are passed onto a parent's offspring. For a peppered moth, a mutation might make a moth's wings much darker than it normally would be without the mutation. The information for the darker colored wings wasn't initially there.
Of course, this isn't to be confused with junk DNA.
When creationists say, "We've never seen one species transform into another species", these skulls serve as a wonderful example.
Futurama sums up the debate quite accurately.
[video=youtube;TTOla3TyfqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOla3TyfqQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m10s[/video]
That's not how evolution works. Speciation occurs when one group of species is divided and divided groups do not interbreed.
Can you prove this through scientific means?
Again, this isn't how DNA works. In fact, I'm not sure what you mean by "DNA strands". Are you referring to chromosomes? If so, understand that the number of chromosomes within a species doesn't actually matter. You can learn more here: Basics: How can chromosome numbers change? – Pharyngula
List of organisms by chromosome count - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Most mutations are very subtle and often unnoticeable with rare exceptions. Some mutations make plants and animals more prone to certain illnesses and others make them more immune.
1. From the start of what?
2. The peppered moth experiment helps us understand natural selection.
3. You're confusing common alleles with mutations.
Mutations alter genes, and those genes are passed onto a parent's offspring. For a peppered moth, a mutation might make a moth's wings much darker than it normally would be without the mutation. The information for the darker colored wings wasn't initially there.
Of course, this isn't to be confused with junk DNA.
When creationists say, "We've never seen one species transform into another species", these skulls serve as a wonderful example.
Futurama sums up the debate quite accurately.
[video=youtube;TTOla3TyfqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTOla3TyfqQ&feature=youtu.be&t=1m10s[/video]
Colossians 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
Isaiah 45:18 - For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.
Isaiah 45:18 - For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and [there is] none else.
I already understand why we age. But what you linked isn't proof that humans lives for hundreds of years in the past. This would require its own evidence.
The reason we discovered Piltdown Man was a fraud is because scientists (evolutionists) actually critiqued the find. Sometimes fraud does happen in science, but it's most often weeded out by scientists.
AronRa does a wonderful job explaining how Piltdown man came to be excepted, then dismissed, by the scientific community.
[video=youtube;myfifz3C0mI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myfifz3C0mI&index=13&list=PL126AFB53A6F002 CC[/video]
Skip to about 2:55 to hear him talk about Piltdown man.
Your argument is essentially, "We found hoax fossils. Therefore the entire thing must be a hoax!" Wrong. A few hoax fossils doesn't prove the rest of the fossils to be fake. In fact, many hoaxes have been started by creationists!
(Watch the entire video before bringing up Nebraska man.)
The reason we discovered Piltdown Man was a fraud is because scientists (evolutionists) actually critiqued the find. Sometimes fraud does happen in science, but it's most often weeded out by scientists.
AronRa does a wonderful job explaining how Piltdown man came to be excepted, then dismissed, by the scientific community.
[video=youtube;myfifz3C0mI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myfifz3C0mI&index=13&list=PL126AFB53A6F002 CC[/video]
Skip to about 2:55 to hear him talk about Piltdown man.
Your argument is essentially, "We found hoax fossils. Therefore the entire thing must be a hoax!" Wrong. A few hoax fossils doesn't prove the rest of the fossils to be fake. In fact, many hoaxes have been started by creationists!
(Watch the entire video before bringing up Nebraska man.)
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The way I see it if you take genesis literally, which I do. There are only two options
1- there was no evolution and man and women were created by god instantly
2-there was evolution but god gave man and woman an eternal soul when they evolved to human form.
Either way science and scripture will never contradict
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You mean Kent Hovind the quack that purchased ALL of his degrees from diploma mills and built a dinosaur park in his backyard with Fred Flinstone riding a dinosaur who in the media began calling every scientist who happens to be a Christian that doesn't share his view the earth is only six thousand years old a heretic before being convicted of 58 tax-related counts, including twelve counts of willful failure to withhold federal income taxes and FICA taxes from his employees, forty-five counts of structuring transactions to evade reporting requirements, and one count of corruptly endeavoring to obstruct and impede the administration of the internal revenue laws who also faces further criminal charges after his present ten year sentence ends?
Do you mean THAT Kent Hovind?
Do you mean THAT Kent Hovind?
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That's not Darwinian evolution. Darwinian evolution posits speciation in which a species transforms into an entirely new species.
What you're reference is something entirely different called metamophisis in which organisms that are part of the same species exhibit lifecycle changes.
Two different things.
What you're reference is something entirely different called metamophisis in which organisms that are part of the same species exhibit lifecycle changes.
Two different things.