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I agree with the person who posted and said creation vs evolution is at odds with each other.It cannot be both.You were created or you evolved.The Bible says you were created,in the womb.Darwin was a racist who believed in eugenics.If you are going to base your beliefs on anything he said then you cannot also believe in creation.If there is a design there's a designer,God.
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I'm sorry you dislike my comment so much Percepi.[FONT=Arial, Helvetica] His own son was the president of the Eugenetics Education Society in Great Britain. This argument has gone back and forth over the years as to whether Darwin was racist or not.Of course being racist today is wholly unacceptable and therefore Darwin defenders would not want him to appear racist.From what I have read Darwin spoke out of two sides of he mouth on the subject,probably not realizing that he was.He believed in "favored races" the Decent of Man clearly shows that he believed in savage races differing from civilized races,and that natural selection would take care of the weaker savage races more closely related to animals or apes. A quote from the Decent of Man...[/FONT]With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated; and those that survive commonly exhibit a vigorous state of health. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save the life of every one to the last moment. There is reason to believe that vaccination has preserved thousands, who from a weak constitution would formerly have succumbed to small-pox. Thus the weak members of civilized societies propagate their kind. No one who has attended to the breeding of domestic animals will doubt that this must be highly injurious to the race of man. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race; but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed.
...he surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil. Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely the weaker and inferior members of society not marrying so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased, though this is more to be hoped for than expected
So he clearly believed in inferior peoples.And from this germ came eugenics.The idea that inferiors such as "negros and imbeciles" should not be allowed to reproduce.Margret Sanger used these thoughts to come up with Planned Parenthood. Read the Pivot of Civilization and see that she too believed certain people should not "breed".Darwin seems to have not agreed with slavery by all I have read but he planted the seed of inferior people which allowed slavery to become worse whether he understood that or not.
...he surgeon may harden himself whilst performing an operation, for he knows that he is acting for the good of his patient; but if we were intentionally to neglect the weak and helpless, it could only be for a contingent benefit, with an overwhelming present evil. Hence we must bear without complaining the undoubtedly bad effects of the weak surviving and propagating their kind; but there appears to be at least one check in steady action, namely the weaker and inferior members of society not marrying so freely as the sound; and this check might be indefinitely increased, though this is more to be hoped for than expected
So he clearly believed in inferior peoples.And from this germ came eugenics.The idea that inferiors such as "negros and imbeciles" should not be allowed to reproduce.Margret Sanger used these thoughts to come up with Planned Parenthood. Read the Pivot of Civilization and see that she too believed certain people should not "breed".Darwin seems to have not agreed with slavery by all I have read but he planted the seed of inferior people which allowed slavery to become worse whether he understood that or not.
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Although "social Darwinism" bears his name, there is nothing saying that he endorsed using his theory to promote racial superiority. However, there is evidence, in his speeches, that even Lincoln believed in this idea. 
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It's like people has been going on about the big bang theory that God is not the creator. well who's to say that God made things happen for the earth to be created? people just look at the narrow end of things, not the bigger picture. scientist has been trying for years to disprove of God being the creator. yet still today, they have no shed of evidence that they can disprove. yes they can come up with theories, but its only theories. what are theories? Something people THINK that has happened or think is this or that, Well thinking is not factual. thinking is not a proven source. anyone can think things, even a baby. but it don't mean by thinking is fact or correct. Lol
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''Intelligent'' Atheists Left Speechless On A Que…: ''Intelligent'' Atheists Left Speechless On A Question On Evolution - YouTube
Watch this whole thing. I found it hillarious.
Watch this whole thing. I found it hillarious.
Bull. That's a load of crock. You know absolutely nothing about Darwin, nor do you know anything about anyone outside your own rock that you live under.
Darwin did not come up with evolution as a way of escaping responsibility from God. Why would he when he can simply... I don't know... not take responsibility?
Furthermore Darwin was very conflicted when it came to questioning God. He did want to believe, his belief wasn't something he wanted to give up.
Please, do some actual research and stop making asinine claims showing your own willful ignorance.
Darwin did not come up with evolution as a way of escaping responsibility from God. Why would he when he can simply... I don't know... not take responsibility?
Furthermore Darwin was very conflicted when it came to questioning God. He did want to believe, his belief wasn't something he wanted to give up.
Please, do some actual research and stop making asinine claims showing your own willful ignorance.
I do have to apologize. I did miss your response to me.
You quoted the very portion in which Darwin talked against Eugenics. He didn't support it by any means what-so-ever.
Darwin was discussing how vaccinations allowed those who are more prone to the disease to live.
Keep in mind this portion, "but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed."
Darwin clearly states mankind is clearly an exception. Whereas most animals who are prone to disease dies off, man uses vaccination to cure those with with weaker constitutions (or immune system as we now know).
I'll admit, the wording is confusing. But Darwin is referring to how mankind is sometimes the exception to certain forms of natural selection. In this case, he was talking about how weak animals die off whereas humans protect the weak. And because we do so, we made ourselves weaker in some manner. But he never said we shouldn't do this.
These "weak" people are not specific either. He isn't referring to different races of people or anything.
Also, when Darwin uses the word "race", he's referring to differing species of animals. Not people.
You quoted the very portion in which Darwin talked against Eugenics. He didn't support it by any means what-so-ever.
Darwin was discussing how vaccinations allowed those who are more prone to the disease to live.
Keep in mind this portion, "but excepting in the case of man himself, hardly anyone is so ignorant as to allow his worst animals to breed."
Darwin clearly states mankind is clearly an exception. Whereas most animals who are prone to disease dies off, man uses vaccination to cure those with with weaker constitutions (or immune system as we now know).
I'll admit, the wording is confusing. But Darwin is referring to how mankind is sometimes the exception to certain forms of natural selection. In this case, he was talking about how weak animals die off whereas humans protect the weak. And because we do so, we made ourselves weaker in some manner. But he never said we shouldn't do this.
These "weak" people are not specific either. He isn't referring to different races of people or anything.
Also, when Darwin uses the word "race", he's referring to differing species of animals. Not people.
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I don't believe in Darwinism,you've figured as much I'm sure.But you mentioned he was conflicted about his belief in God.I saw a movie once,I couldn't tell you the name but it is suppose to be Darwins life.I don't know if anything in it is true.it tells about his daughter and how she died and his conflicting beliefs.Do you know the movie I'm talking about or if any of it is true?Just wondering.
Darwin was the puppet to get Evolution published, his Grandfather Erasmus had early bib bang theories, and theories of evolution. Darwin was pushed by the "x-club" to create a theory that did not have any supernatural origin. He wrote tons of speculation about change in species and equated it to "Evolution" - the whole On the origin of species is a bait and switch fallacy with his own speculations.
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hmm an angry 23 year old who acts as if he has the wisdom of life - never seen that before
God will say to that "does it do you well to be angry?"