Black and White -- Hot and Cold

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ThePottersClay

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If we move back to the basics where the rules were defined and not excused or "beautified" to suit the needs of society and the ever modernizing of our current lives - things would not have been so confusing.

It would have been a simple "Whats wrong is wrong" and "whats right is right"

This is why the word of God speaks of "Were you rather cold than hot....."

Luke warm does not cut it, compromising for the sake of society... does not cut it.

Basics. Thats where we need to be.
 
santuzza

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I couldn't agree more. Personal holiness. Personal accountability. The ability to determine right from wrong. These are what is missing in our culture today.
 
Joidevivre

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The ability to determine right from wrong didn't even happen in the early church. Read the letters from Paul, and he was always addressing their behavior, etc. So, I'm not so sure it is just our culture. It is human nature, and a product of those who walk not by the Spirit.
 
raf

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Almost thought this was going to be about race relations in south africa.. lol
 
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Gandalf

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raf said:
Almost thought this was going to be about race relations in south africa.. lol
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That is a hornets nest my friend and complex as can be :)

 
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Gandalf

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ThePottersClay said:
If we move back to the basics where the rules were defined and not excused or "beautified" to suit the needs of society and the ever modernizing of our current lives - things would not have been so confusing.

It would have been a simple "Whats wrong is wrong" and "whats right is right"

This is why the word of God speaks of "Were you rather cold than hot....."

Luke warm does not cut it, compromising for the sake of society... does not cut it.

Basics. Thats where we need to be.
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What you are describing here is mixed seed. Why was Adam and Eve moved outside the garden? Because they mixed the seed (good and evil). Why was the people destroyed in Noah’s time? They mixed the seed… why are people not entering into the kingdom of heaven? Because we mix the seed… we are not hot or cold but luke warm. We want to compromise on God’s word and by that we are mixing the seed
 
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ThePottersClay

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raf said:
Almost thought this was going to be about race relations in south africa.. lol
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South Africa is not all about race issues. Its a misguided impression the rest of the world has thanks to media propaganda.
 
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ThePottersClay

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Gandalf said:
What you are describing here is mixed seed. Why was Adam and Eve moved outside the garden? Because they mixed the seed (good and evil). Why was the people destroyed in Noah’s time? They mixed the seed… why are people not entering into the kingdom of heaven? Because we mix the seed… we are not hot or cold but luke warm. We want to compromise on God’s word and by that we are mixing the seed
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Mixing Seeds? I am confused.

It's a simple subject.

"God says Murder is wrong"
"The world says - "It's manslaughter"

"God says Homosexuality is a sin"
"The world says "They were born this way"

What I'm trying to say, regardless of the times of Noah - today's day and age has a "compromising mentality" in order to soothe the guilt they should be ridden with they find scripture to back up the reason for their "sin"

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No clue how this has anything to do with Mixed Seed, race or anything else for that matter.... its simple...
We Compromise too easily.
 
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jjtj22

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ThePottersClay said:
South Africa is not all about race issues. Its a misguided impression the rest of the world has thanks to media propaganda.
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Yes, the media does the same in the US.
 
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Gandalf

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ThePottersClay said:
Mixing Seeds? I am confused.

No clue how this has anything to do with Mixed Seed, race or anything else for that matter.... its simple...
We Compromise too easily.
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LOL Potter you just made my week and I had a good laugh :) when I am describing mixed seed it is not physical seed (black and white person) but seed without sin (Adam and Yeshua was born from this seed) and sinful seed (we are all born from). When we except Yeshua as our savior we are born into His seed; seed without sin but the problem we have is the great i am will always be in conflict with the great I am. What happens when you mix hot and cold you get lukewarm (Revelation) and God tells us that He hates that and will spit you out. In the old testament this same picture was explained to us by Adam (seed without sin) and when they sinned (mixing the seed). God hates mixing the seed of sin and seed without sin and that is the reason we will be spited out (they mixed the seed of good and evil)… Hope this makes sense?
 
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Gandalf

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from hebrew4christians

The Bible's statement, "I will put enmity between your (Satan's) seed and her seed" is somewhat ambiguous, however. The Hebrew word "seed" (i.e., zera) is singular in form though it can refer to a collective group or kind (e.g., "offspring" in Isa. 1:4; Gal. 3:16). The "seed of the woman" therefore refers primarily to the promised Seed (i.e., Saviour) to come but also to those descendants of Eve who would share her faith in God's redemption (i.e., the godly line beginning with Abel/Seth, Enosh...). This is consistent with most prophetic utterances found in Scripture, which often foretell of temporal events that signify deeper spiritual truths. On the other hand, the "seed
of the serpent" refers collectively to those descendants who are the spiritual progeny of the devil (i.e., the ungodly line beginning with Cain, Canaan... (John 8:44; Matt. 3:7; 13:38) as well as to the coming of the future Anti-Christ, or "Messiah of Evil" that will be revealed at the End of Days. The seed of the serpent therefore refers to corrupted and carnal human nature, whereas the seed of the woman refers to those who are regenerated by faith in God's salvation.... Understood in the collective sense, the prophecy implies perpetual warfare between the descendants of Eve who shared her teshuvah (called the "children of light") and the descendants of Satan who refused it (called the "children of darkness"). The ongoing enmity between these "two seeds" foretells the "tale of two kingdoms," the
Kingdom of God and the kingdom of the devil (John 8:34-36). The Apostles likewise spoke of "children of darkness" and "children of light" (Eph. 5:8; Col. 1:13, 1 Thess. 5:5, etc.). The children of light are called to be am kadosh - a holy people - separate from
the evil engendered by the fallen world and its forces, just as the very first creative expression of God was the separation of light from
darkness (Gen. 1:3-4). The children of light "hate evil and love the good," and conversely, the children of darkness "hate the good
and love evil" (Psalm 34:21, Prov. 8:13, Amos 5:15, John 3:20-21). Politically speaking, St. Augustine described the cosmic conflict as one between the "City of Man" and the "City of God."

Ultimately, however, the promise points to the final outcome of the battle between the coming Savior (the Seed of the woman) and the devil himself: "... he (i.e., the Saviour/Messiah) will crush your head, and you (i.e., the serpent/Satan) will crush his heel." The crushing of Satan's head refers to the destruction of his usurped dominion over mankind. Yeshua, the "Son of Man" and "Second Adam," landed a mortal blow directly to the head of the evil one himself, and through His sacrifice has "destroyed the works of the devil" (Col. 2:15, 1 John 3:8). The "crushing of the heel of the Saviour" referred to Yeshua's suffering by being rejected and crucified for our sins.
"But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons" (Gal. 4:4-5).
 
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