Depression and suicide
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Thank you for your posts, JesusistheChrist. I knew by how you posted the first one that you didn't mean to say that it was for all cases. That was apparent by how much you had prayed and received back as direct answers from our faithful Lord.
I think that some of us don't bother to read other's 'previous posts' from their profile and just assume they know 'why' a person is asking these questions - despite the obvious clue in a title.
Thank you again, Brother and Have a Blessed December time.
I think that some of us don't bother to read other's 'previous posts' from their profile and just assume they know 'why' a person is asking these questions - despite the obvious clue in a title.
Thank you again, Brother and Have a Blessed December time.
Sorry if that sounded rude. But I want you to know that Satan is creating a cloud over whom ever the person is in question he is planting doubt seeds and these doubt seeds soon lead to unbelief and from unbelief to slavery. We become a slave to what has control over us and that was the reason for the death of JESUS CHRIST so that death created by Adam and Eve in beginning, would never have a hold on any of us again.
When you get ready to pray and ask GOD to help fight a fight that you or I cannot ever win because the fight is not a fleshly fight but a Spiritual Fight I would be glad along with many here to pray and stand with you side by side.
When you get ready to pray and ask GOD to help fight a fight that you or I cannot ever win because the fight is not a fleshly fight but a Spiritual Fight I would be glad along with many here to pray and stand with you side by side.
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Hi, 1joseph.
I partly agree with you. IOW, I agree that "hopelessness" CAN mean "without God" or "without Christ", even as Paul himself noted:
"That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:" (Ephesians 2:12)
At the same time, however, even those of us who are "with God" have to battle against "hopelessness" at times. I mean, part of the spiritual armour which God has given us is "the helmet of salvation" (Ephesians 6:17) or, more specifically, "and for an helmet, the HOPE of salvation" (I Thessalonians 5:8). Whenever we lose focus of our "hope", we run the risk of "fainting in our minds".
Also, even Paul experienced times of "despair":
"For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life: But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;" (II Corinthians 1:8-10)
Anyhow, a major part of the cure for one's "hopelessness" or "despair" is a realization of the hope of eternal life as is found in Jesus Christ and in Jesus Christ alone. May we all truly be partakers of such a hope.
I partly agree with you. IOW, I agree that "hopelessness" CAN mean "without God" or "without Christ", even as Paul himself noted:
"That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:" (Ephesians 2:12)
At the same time, however, even those of us who are "with God" have to battle against "hopelessness" at times. I mean, part of the spiritual armour which God has given us is "the helmet of salvation" (Ephesians 6:17) or, more specifically, "and for an helmet, the HOPE of salvation" (I Thessalonians 5:8). Whenever we lose focus of our "hope", we run the risk of "fainting in our minds".
Also, even Paul experienced times of "despair":
"For we would not, brethren, have you ignorant of our trouble which came to us in Asia, that we were pressed out of measure, above strength, insomuch that we despaired even of life: But we had the sentence of death in ourselves, that we should not trust in ourselves, but in God which raiseth the dead: Who delivered us from so great a death, and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;" (II Corinthians 1:8-10)
Anyhow, a major part of the cure for one's "hopelessness" or "despair" is a realization of the hope of eternal life as is found in Jesus Christ and in Jesus Christ alone. May we all truly be partakers of such a hope.
C
And if the Brother that posted this kills himself because of your "go ahead" - don't you feel the weight of that?
That's another spirit/voice talking to this Brother and it's not Christ's.
'That' is how you all are answering this Brother's serious decision making question.
Prayerfully (and we have been praying for him and more people than you know) - that he won't take these flippant, callous, could-care-less type answers to end his depression in this way, in The Name of He Who sees the plans He has for him and that includes Life and life more abundant and filled with Joy and feeling His Love tangibly.
Only that devil wants precious souls to "murder" themselves and will use whatever means that he can use to influence any person or Saint to "go ahead".
Do not allow anybody to make you believe that this is 'GOD's WILL' for ANYONE!
[Not yelling, Christianguitarist - just a very sensitive issue that needs correcting, as it may affect more than just you and I'm sure you care how others are influenced just as much as many others do.]
The Lord LOVES you - there's no doubt about that. Believe what 'His' Spirit would say to you in your heart, dear Brother. It's not His Will that you should take your own life -- not in the slightest -- not ever -- He died so you won't have to. Praise God for that and for His Great-Great Love that we just can't fathom at times, or just yet. May God prosper you in all of your ways, ChristianGuitarist. The LORD Bless you, and keep you; the LORD make His face to shine upon you, and be gracious unto you; the LORD lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace. [Num 6:24-26] Amen.
That's another spirit/voice talking to this Brother and it's not Christ's.
'That' is how you all are answering this Brother's serious decision making question.
Prayerfully (and we have been praying for him and more people than you know) - that he won't take these flippant, callous, could-care-less type answers to end his depression in this way, in The Name of He Who sees the plans He has for him and that includes Life and life more abundant and filled with Joy and feeling His Love tangibly.
Only that devil wants precious souls to "murder" themselves and will use whatever means that he can use to influence any person or Saint to "go ahead".
Do not allow anybody to make you believe that this is 'GOD's WILL' for ANYONE!
[Not yelling, Christianguitarist - just a very sensitive issue that needs correcting, as it may affect more than just you and I'm sure you care how others are influenced just as much as many others do.]
The Lord LOVES you - there's no doubt about that. Believe what 'His' Spirit would say to you in your heart, dear Brother. It's not His Will that you should take your own life -- not in the slightest -- not ever -- He died so you won't have to. Praise God for that and for His Great-Great Love that we just can't fathom at times, or just yet. May God prosper you in all of your ways, ChristianGuitarist. The LORD Bless you, and keep you; the LORD make His face to shine upon you, and be gracious unto you; the LORD lift up His countenance upon you, and give you peace. [Num 6:24-26] Amen.
J
Amen.
I'm equally as shocked and saddened at some of the responses which I've read here and I hope that christianguitarist is alright.
If you really think about, then it seems that Satan even attempted to get Jesus to kill Himself. I mean, we read:
"Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." (Matthew 4:5-7)
Anyhow, again, I hope that christianguitarist is alright and I also hope that those who have posted responses here which would somehow justify him "tempting the Lord his God" have since been convicted of the same and that they are now at least praying for christianguitarist.
I'm equally as shocked and saddened at some of the responses which I've read here and I hope that christianguitarist is alright.
If you really think about, then it seems that Satan even attempted to get Jesus to kill Himself. I mean, we read:
"Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in their hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." (Matthew 4:5-7)
Anyhow, again, I hope that christianguitarist is alright and I also hope that those who have posted responses here which would somehow justify him "tempting the Lord his God" have since been convicted of the same and that they are now at least praying for christianguitarist.
The concept of "hell" may rather be a lot more complex than we've been taught. But in any case, suicide is simply a bad idea in the sense that it's synonymous to "quitting".
You see, life is a story... and just like in any story, you have a Protagonist who must face challenges along the way, and ultimately reveal to us (the audience) who he/she really is. This person may be a lawyer, a musician, a christian as well as a husband. He may also be a tennis player, and soccer. All these features are nothing but "characterization". The one and only thing that will reveal "character" is: What decision he/she makes whenever a GAP breaks open between EXPECTATIONS and RESULTS.
Say he comes back home expecting his wife cooking dinner... but then he finds her in bed with another man. What we (the audience) will do is sit back in our seats and say: "Holly molly... this is gonna be interesting. What's he gonna do now? what's he gonna do?"
If the guy takes a gun and shoots himself, well that's the end of it. The story/movie ends right there... and as we leave the theater, each one of us will be thinking "What a looser"
According to the apostle Paul, "… suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character..." (Romans 5:3) So I say to you; every challenge that comes along, take it as an opportunity to reveal to the world who you really are; and by that I mean the man Jesus Christ far deep inside you; the superman, the unbreakable, the unbeatable.
"You are the light of the world" it was told. Well, soon the world will see your actions and praise our Father in Heaven. They will come to you and say: "You really are a man of God. I wish I was like you. Will you please tell me how you do it?"
You see, life is a story... and just like in any story, you have a Protagonist who must face challenges along the way, and ultimately reveal to us (the audience) who he/she really is. This person may be a lawyer, a musician, a christian as well as a husband. He may also be a tennis player, and soccer. All these features are nothing but "characterization". The one and only thing that will reveal "character" is: What decision he/she makes whenever a GAP breaks open between EXPECTATIONS and RESULTS.
Say he comes back home expecting his wife cooking dinner... but then he finds her in bed with another man. What we (the audience) will do is sit back in our seats and say: "Holly molly... this is gonna be interesting. What's he gonna do now? what's he gonna do?"
If the guy takes a gun and shoots himself, well that's the end of it. The story/movie ends right there... and as we leave the theater, each one of us will be thinking "What a looser"
According to the apostle Paul, "… suffering produces perseverance; perseverance, character..." (Romans 5:3) So I say to you; every challenge that comes along, take it as an opportunity to reveal to the world who you really are; and by that I mean the man Jesus Christ far deep inside you; the superman, the unbreakable, the unbeatable.
"You are the light of the world" it was told. Well, soon the world will see your actions and praise our Father in Heaven. They will come to you and say: "You really are a man of God. I wish I was like you. Will you please tell me how you do it?"
We are not to kill, one who commits suicide does indeed kill self. It is NEVER the will of God that one kills their own self. It is NEVER the will of God for one person to kill another human, self included. What makes suicide different from murder. is one who kills another can actually repent of that deed afterwards. One who kills self can never be forgiven of that deed. Because one can't possibly repent of a sin they have not yet committed. If that were True, then i say right now. God please forgive me of all the sins that i am ever going to make in the future. and never again have to feel sorry for, or repent of any sin that i commit from now on. God forbid. You can only repent of sin AFTER it is committed, NEVER before it is committed. Therefore those who commit suicide are not forgiven because they did not repent afterwards. And no unforgiven will enter into Heaven. Sorry if that offended anyone, but it is the Truth.
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