93% of divorces come from contempt

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jsr1221

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I don't know how to copy and paste on a phone or else I would. But I came across a study that says couples who yell and show contempt after any argument (a mix of anger and disgust by putting the other person down, calling names, etc) tend to divorce soon or later 93% of the time, so far as even completely disengaging from the other spouse altogether for as long as 16 years. What are your thoughts about this? As a 24 year old male who grew up in a house that did nothing but yell up til I was 15, I still am wary of any potential relationship to this day, even though I would love to meet somebody and grow with her. I don't like conflict and fighting, and I try to stay away from this as much as possible. What do you think both men and women can do differently in the future that can keep studies like these releasing such a high number, and have less psychological, physical, and emotional effect on the parties involved, including the spouses and any kids they have?
 
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People don't process pain and when you act out of pain you always create more pain. Unprocessed pain always leads to anger depression and anxiety.
 

Angela53510

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Maybe you could just type the article name and the publisher here for someone else to look up and cut and paste?

I am wondering about those stats.

But I do agree we should never put down our spouse, even if we think they are dead wrong. And some people just don't know how to control their rage, because that is all they have ever known. I know God showed me that yelling was angry in the first years I was a Christian. I was raised in a big family where everyone yelled all the time. It took me years to learn to control my temper, but God helped me, and somehow my kids all turned out ok.

Praying God shows you how to relate to people, so you will not be afraid to find a good woman and marry her.
 
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I came across a study that says couples who yell and show contempt after any argument (a mix of anger and disgust by putting the other person down, calling names, etc) tend to divorce soon or later 93% of the time ... What are your thoughts about this?
And a 100% of divorces come from marriage!

Seriously, though ... I think the best thing people can do to avoid this unfortunate circumstance is learn how to argue like rational adults before getting into a committed relationship with another person. A relationship is hard. It's a lot of work. When two immature people decide to live together, it's usually going to end in frustration and tantrums.
 
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There is a stigma attached to anger. Anger is an important aspect of the human experience. Without it we would not know when someone was taking advantage of us or mistreating us. Anger is a warning that a boundary has been crossed or a core belief has been violated. It is a secondary emotion that follows pain. Processing pain is key to using anger as the tool that it was designed to be.
 
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Conflict in marriage is inevitable. It is how you deal with it that is important. There's nothing wrong with arguing or discussing and it is quite important to voice issues we have because holding it in or avoiding conflict only drives a wedge between spouses and ends in possible divorce. My wife left me 6 months ago. There were a lot of things that I didn't bring up or talk about because I k we she preferred to avoid certain issues rather than confront them and I was concerned about making her uncomfortable. Sometimes when conversations got too deep she would actually get visibly uncomfortable and say that she didn't want to talk about it right now. ( completely non - sexual issues by the way.) Well eventually, my trying to protect her and avoid conflict destroyed our marriage. (That was one of the problems anyway).

Yelling amd screaming does not accomplish anything though. You just have to discuss ahead of time a safe way for both spouses to be able to talk about what is on their minds without fear of being ridiculed or ignored.[/SIZE]
 

presidente

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I don't know how to copy and paste on a phone or else I would. But I came across a study that says couples who yell and show contempt after any argument (a mix of anger and disgust by putting the other person down, calling names, etc) tend to divorce soon or later 93% of the time, so far as even completely disengaging from the other spouse altogether for as long as 16 years. What are your thoughts about this? As a 24 year old male who grew up in a house that did nothing but yell up til I was 15, I still am wary of any potential relationship to this day, even though I would love to meet somebody and grow with her. I don't like conflict and fighting, and I try to stay away from this as much as possible. What do you think both men and women can do differently in the future that can keep studies like these releasing such a high number, and have less psychological, physical, and emotional effect on the parties involved, including the spouses and any kids they have?

Something that helped me early in life was meditating on Jesus' words about being guilty for calling a brother 'Raca' and being in danger of Hell fire for saying 'thou fool.' I can't think of a time my wife and I did name-calling like that. If you grew up in a home where people yelled, you may need to pray about and examine yourself to see if you think you will follow that 'script.'

Knowing what you know, you should be very careful about your selection of wife. One theory is that men marry women like their mothers. If your mother yelled and showed contempt to your father, you may need to carefully think through the personality type you are attracted to, and pray about being attracted to someone else.

You can look for a woman who really embraces Biblical roles for wives, who consciously accepts the idea of a wife submitting to her husband and really sees showing respect to her husband as important. If she hasn't thought about it, you can help teach her that these things are important for a marriage. Intellectually accepting that stuff helps. If a woman can't discuss the issue of submission in marriage, then I'd take that as a serious red flag.

You also want a woman who is not quarrelsome. If your mom argued a bit, you'll just have to keep in the back of your mind that quarrelsome is a bad thing and be conscious of it so your 'instincts' which come from what you were raised with don't overpower your good sense. Yelling is quarrelsome. But some women get pouty or give you the cold shoulder if they don't get their way. Find a woman who has trained herself to forgive easily. It's difficult if you are with someone who gets upset and angry over nothing, and then won't forgive you for doing basically nothing. Stay away from women who are petty. Do they say that out of the South? That means she gets upset over very small things and makes a big deal out of it.

Try to find a woman who is, of course, kind, and accommodating, someone who stays cool under pressure. If 50% of marriages in the US end in divorce, that means the other 50% don't. You need to find someone who is unlikely to divorce you.

There are stats that divorce rates among evangelicals are the same as the world (not statistically significantly different) in the US. I've read that far less than 1% of Christian couples who actually pray together divorce. I don't think that's been in a peer reviewed journal, but I think it was asked at a question at either one or two Christian conferences with a very large sample size, so it's something to consider. I've also read that while people who profess an evangelical faith have the same divorce rates as the world, that frequent church attendance corresponds with lower divorce rates (maybe 30% lower.)

I don't remember the numbers, but Teachman 1990 found that virgins (and women who'd only been with their husbands before marriage) were much less likely to divorce than those who had multiple sexual partners. Marrying certain ethnic groups lowers your chances of divorce as well. I've read that those who marry Filipinas have lower divorce rates. Some cultures highly value marriage. I married an Indonesian and in the local community in the past 6 years, of about 50 families, I don't think there has been a single divorce. I know a couple of them have divorces in their past. Indonesia is mostly Muslim, so divorce isn't considered forbidden by the majority religion. But it does seem rare among Christians. I think I know of three or four couples out of my wife's extended family who had divorce or something similar going on, and that's a big family, much lower than my own extended family in the US. It's not socially acceptable there, though this is less true than in the past. There are also plenty of women who take marriage seriously in western countries if you can find them. The dominant culture promotes divorce and sexual immorality.
 
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I know a simply way to end all the divorces in this world, but believe me if you want to take that road you will look all around the world for your perfect match. So you don't want it. It's too sad and painful and it will cause you pain and happiness forever.
 

presidente

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Interesting article. But something that is seriously frustrating is when they post these sorts of things, and don't cite the name of the article or give enough information to look it up on Google Scholar, if it is even peer reviewed yet. Usually, journalists aren't really qualified to interpret these articles full of statistical gobbledygook, academic jargon, and references to previous literature. They often overstate the findings. I didn't catch anything that sounded outlandish in this news article, which is good. But it's good if you can actually look up the published paper in an academic journal.

I would like to see if contempt on the part of the wife or husband is more likely to lead to divorce. My guess is they are not the same thing.

Be that as it may, this is actually a really good little bit of research that people can apply to their lives. It's also a good thing to mention in a sermon or Bible teaching, since there are plenty of passages that deal with how we consider and treat one another. Wives are to respect/reverence their husbands. This type of contemptuous speech is disrespectful. Also, husbands are to love and honor their wives, not treat them with contempt.

It's also a good thing to watch out for young single folks like jsr1221 who are considering whether to marry or who to marry. If a woman is the type to talk down to others or to be sarcastic, she may not be a good choice for wife. If she has a brother she treats with contempt, that could be a sign of a problem. If she treats her father that way, that's a serious warning sign. It's also good to examine one's own attitudes and behavior on whether you treat others with contempt.