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iamsetfree36

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hello I have a 12 year old daughter who has changed drastically. being disrespectful, unappreciative, does not want to go to school or church. and never wants to accept when she is wrong. I know in the word it says honor thy father and thy mother. and it also says parents do not taunt your children. my wife and I continually pray for her. i'm at a loss as far as making her behave. my wife stresses enough already. so if there is any positive feedback I would be much obliged. thank you and be blessed.
 

blue_ladybug

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hello I have a 12 year old daughter who has changed drastically. being disrespectful, unappreciative, does not want to go to school or church. and never wants to accept when she is wrong. I know in the word it says honor thy father and thy mother. and it also says parents do not taunt your children. my wife and I continually pray for her. i'm at a loss as far as making her behave. my wife stresses enough already. so if there is any positive feedback I would be much obliged. thank you and be blessed.
is she hanging out with the wrong crowd of friends? Kids rebel against their parents, especially when their in their young teens. Has she had any stress or traumatic incidents happen to her recently? She needs to respect you and your wife. If she doesn't mind you, then punish her. Send her to her room, ground her, take away her phone/computer/whatever. Tell her if she behaves, she can have them back, but if not, then you're going to get rid of them. Disobedient children are hard to deal with. Give her some tough love. She has to learn that she can't be defiant and get away with it.
 
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Enter her world...let her be the boss and she will tell you what is bugging her.
 
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iamsetfree36

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punishing works for a little while but few days later back to the same thing
 
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im quite active in her life I pick her up from school everyday and at night we spend family time together. but if its something that dosent glorify what she wants she will go to her room
 

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I raised two daughters.....I have noticed with preteens that there is hormonal changes that take place....as we all know.....this makes young woman very dramatic....overly sensitive...creatures.....
Logic seems to not apply.......its time to sit down with this young lady.....and get real.......
She must trust that she can tell you anything without you losing your temper......she needs to
explain herself....if this goes on to long.......its gonna be harder to pull her back.......
she needs you to talk to her as a young adult and put away the kid stuff....she is trying to become
her own independent self.....its a very confusing time......but giving her some bigger responsibilities...
grown up responsibility.......give her a reason to want to go to school.......like adding a little more freedom .....for example.....you will go to school...you will do your best and bring home grades......
you will help out around the house.......in return.....you will change bedtime one hour later.....or
She can get her nails done.....whatever is her thing...computer....phone....whatever.....these are awesome tools...now I am in no way saying ....buy her off.....I'm talking incentives...being treated
more like an adult.....she is frustrated...she dosent want to be a kid anymore......she wants you to
look at her as an adult.....but being real and not accepting the famous response ..........l dun know....
as her answer......make her open up.....if you want to be an adult you must take on the responsibilities.....and I suggest you try to get her on a team of some kind.....it brought me out of my shell...I had to maintain the grades if I wanted to play......but you have to find her passion.....be it dance...or soccer........get her involved in something she calls her own......I'm praying for you.....
I raised two teenage girls alone....all by the grace of God........go forth and concour.....peace ...jo
 
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Here are a couple of things to consider:

1. The middle school years are the TOUGHEST years for kids. The peer pressure and push to fit in is intense. The feelings of being self-conscious and not being good enough are the most intense. Kids are incredible at discovering the shame-buttons of their fellow kids and pushing them relentlessly.

2. If the changes are DRASTIC, then it's very possible that she's dealing with some kind of recent trauma or issue. Something that perhaps she's too embarrassed or afraid to discuss.

Here's my advice: At a QUIET moment, (a non-confrontational, non-fraught moment), have a talk with her. Tell her that you love her and you've noticed some changes in her and that you're concerned. If she will not talk to you about it, just remind her that you love her, that nothing she tells you will alter that, that you are there, and you're willing to listen whenever she is ready.

I'll be praying for your family.
 

presidente

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You could try home school for a while.
 

jogoldie

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im quite active in her life I pick her up from school everyday and at night we spend family time together. but if its something that dosent glorify what she wants she will go to her room
I have not met a teenage girl who isn't an bedroom dweller.......I know I was......and both my sisters.....
both my daughters.......get use to the fact that your not as cool as you thought you were.....we become an embarassment......but have heart ......it doesn't last forever.......and pray.....in everything you do.....before you speak to her ask God for the words.....and buckle up.....its a very interesting ride.....
 
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iamsetfree36

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thanks for the info I will definitely continue to pray about this. luckily both parents are in the house. not a lot of kids have that. I didn't. but GOD was my father in the absence. once again thank you all!
 
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I was too smart for my own good at that age. I even figured out how to beat the 'be home by this time' rule..... arrange to stay over at a friends place, then turn up home at home late at night and say i had a fight with my friend.

I never actually did it, but it felt good knowing that i had the power to stay out late if i wanted to. And at that age it is all about power, and trying to educate parents that they don't have the degree of power as per their delusions.
 

Angela53510

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I am with hormones and the early teen years. To say nothing of her room as a sanctuary.

Keep trying to build the relationship, but respect the fact she does not see herself as a child, but a young woman. Yes, you should set boundaries and limits. But sometimes choices is the way to go.

Rather than:

"Do this!"

"Would you rather clean your room, or do the dishes?"

Of course, she may say neither, and that is when you have to start taking away privileges.

I was blessed to have a good daughter, I trusted and respected her, and she returned that trust!

For myself, I was a mixed up rebel, born into a rebellious time. I'm thankful God brought me back to him, and turned my life around. It didn't happen till I was 26, so never give up loving and praying for your daughter.
 

Joidevivre

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I almost hate to say this, but at this age with this behavior, it might be a good idea to secretly go through her things and drawers. You might make some discoveries that will help you understand her. You are still responsible for her and have a need to know. When my daughter was a teenager, I was afraid to invade "her privacy" and I did not do this. Later I wish I had.

There are parents who will not agree with this, but something is going on that might be more than just hormones. Not wanting to go to school or church seems a little more than just normal teen behavior.
 
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psychomom

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hello I have a 12 year old daughter who has changed drastically. being disrespectful, unappreciative, does not want to go to school or church. and never wants to accept when she is wrong. I know in the word it says honor thy father and thy mother. and it also says parents do not taunt your children. my wife and I continually pray for her. i'm at a loss as far as making her behave. my wife stresses enough already. so if there is any positive feedback I would be much obliged. thank you and be blessed.
we raised 5 girls, and the one who was easiest at 12 is the most challenging at 34.
the one who was most difficult in her teen years is now completely delightful at twenty.
and she detested being confronted with the thought she was wrong.

hoping to encourage you...our youngest is now the first to admit she was wrong,
recognizing it quickly and making no excuses. what changed?
Jesus got hold of her heart.

girls really can be tough at that age...it's hard for everyone in the house.
but i'm with Joi on this...look into her 'private' life. she's still a child--your child.
it may make you feel creepy, but if there's something you should know,
you will regret it if you don't.

if you feel she's isolating...not wanting to go to school or church...something's up.
praying...
 
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hello I have a 12 year old daughter who has changed drastically. being disrespectful, unappreciative, does not want to go to school or church. and never wants to accept when she is wrong. I know in the word it says honor thy father and thy mother. and it also says parents do not taunt your children. my wife and I continually pray for her. i'm at a loss as far as making her behave. my wife stresses enough already. so if there is any positive feedback I would be much obliged. thank you and be blessed.
12 year olds are genetically predisposed to behave like this. It's normal, and there is an absolute wealth of information from professionals on the internet regarding dealing with teenagers.

The first thing I'd say is, she's now growing into an adult, and although it'll be siex or eight or ten years before she feels like one, now's the time to allow her to start making her own decisions about her own life. For instance, if she isn't wanting to go to church, simply ask her why. If it isn't her will to go, you shouldn't force her to go -- it will only make her resent you, and church.

Allow her to develop her own views, her own interests, her own opinions. I know you want certain things for her, but really, those things may not be what she wants, and you have to remember that she is an autonomous human being with her own thoughts and aspirations. You may want her to go to church, but that may not be what she wants.

It's kind of that time of her life for you to start backing off a little bit -- let her begin to make her own appointments, her own mistakes, forget her own things, and it will start to teach her how to manage her own life.

Let her pursue her own interests. She's at that stage of life where she's not exactly a kid, but not an adult -- she's torn between what she herself wants, and what people's expectations pressure her into doing. It's time to let the expectations of what you want take second place to what she sees for her own life. You can support her in her own dreams and aspirations, and that's actually going to be a lot more fulfilling than pushing her into some predefined mold you've made for her.

As hard as it may be, speak to her with adult respect, because she is trying hard to take control, trying hard to establish some boundary of ''I'm my own person, let me be my own person''. If you recognize this and speak to her as such, you're likely to see a marked improvement in how she speaks back to you.

Turn your attentions to the things you enjoy, to your life, to what you life to do, to what example you want to set, and enthrall yourself with your own pursuits. It's time to begin to stop micromanaging her life and start investing in yours. And by doing rather than telling, she'll respect you and probably emulate you in many ways. Show her to take care of herself, by taking care of yourself -- show her to work hard, by working hard, she her to be kind and patient, by being kind and patient. Etc etc.

The last thing I'd say is, don't make this a power-struggle, because it doesn't need to be, you are not in competition, or at least, shouldn't be in competition, with what your daughter wants. Set your sights on understanding what she's trying to accomplish, and supporting her in that. Her behaviour is just the result of an emotional state, so try to understand that state and it will make it easier to cope. You have to remember, that she is trying to learn how to grow up, and she needs space for that -- she needs respect, and patience, and autonomy, and she wants to be able to let go of parental direction and make her own mistakes and pursue her own things, all the while having the support of parents who, like birds, are ready to catch her if she falls too far and forgets to flap her wings.

Don't wrap her in sponge anymore, but be her safety net, if and when she needs one.
 

DiscipleDave

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hello I have a 12 year old daughter who has changed drastically. being disrespectful, unappreciative, does not want to go to school or church. and never wants to accept when she is wrong. I know in the word it says honor thy father and thy mother. and it also says parents do not taunt your children. my wife and I continually pray for her. i'm at a loss as far as making her behave. my wife stresses enough already. so if there is any positive feedback I would be much obliged. thank you and be blessed.
The Best thing you can do is kick her out, and of coarse the hardest thing for you to do as well. Get a hold of a relative that will take her in for a couple of week, plan it out, get with relative to try to make as worse as possible for her, such as playing music real loud very late into the night, so she does not sleep very good, little things like, banging in the middle of the night that wakes her up constantly, you know things that does not happen at your house. within a week she will be begging to come back home. Ahead of time call all other relatives that she may call to try to move in with them, have them all tell her no. When she comes back to you, let her know, that only under one condition she can come back, and that is to abide by your rules.
i am not saying it a perfect plan, and some things can go wrong. But Tough Love, may be the answer. At the age of 12 i would recommend the above, if 16 or older i would not recommend it.

Also i have heard of another tactic that seemed to work too. remove the door to their room and visit frequently, Before long they will be begging for their door back. i heard this worked pretty good.

Then there is always the belt, you do it one time, they will know you will do it again. At age 12 she probably thinks she is too old for a whipping, prove her otherwise.
Is it not written, spare the rod, spoil the child. So then if you spare the whipping, don't be too upset when you have a rebellious child. Or you can plan that as well with your wife, bad cop good cop, get really upset at her disobedience, stand up remove your belt as if you are finally going to whip her, then have your wife come in and stop you, but you have to be convincing that is what you want to start doing. just an ideal.

^i^ Responding to OP
 
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DiscipleDave

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What i suggested above, is for someone who is real rebellious. Your daughter may not be that.
 

Agricola

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Disciple Dave that is the worst parenting advise I have heard for a long time. All that will do is force a child into acting a certain way, it will not solve the root problems, it will also harbour more hatred for the parents.
 

DiscipleDave

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Disciple Dave that is the worst parenting advise I have heard for a long time. All that will do is force a child into acting a certain way, it will not solve the root problems, it will also harbour more hatred for the parents.
However, the advise i gave worked. It goes along with, "You don't know what you have, until you lose it" When you no longer have it, you begin to realize what you had. Most 12 years old don't realize how good they actually have it, UNTIL it is gone. The advice i give has proven to WORK, But a parent knows their own child better than anyone else, What Works for one child may not work for the next.
The belt worked with me pretty Good, i was rarely ever whipped, because i obeyed my parents, KNOWING that if i did not i was going to be whipped. HOWEVER the belt did not work with my other brother at all, it did not effect him, Something else had to be done in order to reach him. He continued to do wrong, knowing that the cost was a mere few minutes of pain of the belt, So to him the cost of doing that which was wrong, was not that great. Grounding him, worked better than a belt would. What works for one, may not work for another.
How is it terrible advice, if it has been known to WORK?

God kicked His children out of the Garden of Eden as well, to never let them back in, Was that a bad thing to do as well?

^i^ Responding to Post# 18
 
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blue_ladybug

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Disciple Dave that is the worst parenting advise I have heard for a long time. All that will do is force a child into acting a certain way, it will not solve the root problems, it will also harbour more hatred for the parents.
amen brother..