Just wondering what you thought?.
What I think isn't important.
Now tell me what Gods thoughts are and you got my full undivided attention.
What I do know is, tomorrow's a mystery, yesterday is
history, today is a
gift that's why they call it
the present.
Regarding your statements and questions I will try to answer them the best I know how again dear kedge brother man!!
I hear you about God's dwelling place (heaven), anywhere seems better than this corrupt world we live on.
Yeah we're on the same wave length. It's corrupt yes, its the devils playground, he walks around to and fro through it like a hungry lion seeking someone to devour! But it's still got its good things, and so much to give thanks and praise for, but yes anywhere that in Gods presence and being right with Him is going to be infinitely better. So much so that even the most worst things you can think of in history from natural disasters to plagues and genocide today will pale into complete insignificance when it comes to just basking in Gods infinite eternal glory and power. We're so blessed He gives us more than we need and we still think we need more! If we really knew God, and his eternal nature and power and glory, well we'd be always fervently praying and praising Him 24/7. We'd have so so much more joy, even in the most dire of situations, the faithful have so much joy. Even though there's wars on tv, rumors of wars, disasters happening, planes dropping from the skies, suicide bombers, drone killings, refugees, asylum overload, some little kid with a nasty disease that dont get to see his 5th birthday. It's heart breaking like mad and if I said it's alright I'd be lying but it will be. At the end of time. God is in control and we must absolutely must believe and rely on that. His will, will be done as it is written in His devine word and love letter to us;
Matthew 6:10 Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.
Absolutely, it sounds like paradise.
Absolutely that's what paradise is. It's paradise where I am an awesome DJ rocking it out scratchmaster style upon 2 Technics 1210's ><
Sounds great, i can be optimistic about that thought.
Sometimes all we need to do is get a different perspective on things to see it in a better light.
For a spirit person (one without flesh) no doubt ,but what if i don't want to be a spirit entity residing in a spirit realm such as heaven?, what about planet earth?
I think you will be able to visit and be in both. Remember there are different realms of Heaven, each full of mansions and the rest of the universe, with God at the top. In Heaven we'll be able to just close our eyes, think of a place and be there in a moment.
No i don't think so, i like planet earth, there is so much i want to do and experience here, i haven't even begun to really live as a human being yet and i'm 52 years old, the wicked rule the earth so i can't do much because of the limitations they set upon us, i can't be truly free from the tyrant rulers that rule our planet.
My friend, its all only temporary. Everything you see now will be flattened. Do not set your eyes and heart on the things of the world because the things of the world passeth away.
1 John 2:17. Rather set your heart on the things of above. For where you store your treasure, there your heart will be also.
Matthew 6:19. What's all this tyrant rulers stuff? You live in todays times not back in tribal times right?
I joke, I get what you're saying though. Not long and I got my 40s myself but yes there is still a lot to live for if you see life like that. But it would be better if there wasn't any of that bad stuff in it ever again and everyone was right with God.
Didn't satan start the transgressions against God?, also, adam and eve were the first human beings to sin against God not me, but i agree that i am a sinner, but i didn't start the trouble, i am reeping the sin what adam and eve sowed, it was passed on to me from adam and eve because i am a descendent of the first two human couple. I know i transgress a written law but i have no choice about my inherited sin, it is a trait that can not be removed by mankind. that's how i see things, that's only my opinion.
Yes thats right he deceived Eve, he beguiled here, he walked her into a false sense of security, he simply played on her desire. That's what he does, that's why they call him the deceiver the father of lies. He told the first lie but it was done in such a subtle smooth way in that it wasn't so much sinful itself but what would become of it was the sin. But no matter what the snake said, it was ultimately Adam and Eve's decision to go against what God had said and go with their own desires instead (encouraged by the snake). That's how he operates, quietly whispering into your ear - its alright do it, then accuses man day and night of their sins to God. And so yes, because of that, we are sinners-by-proxie. Yes we didn't "ask" to be born but God gives you freedom of wiil. It's the greatest gift to have in the whole of the universe and Heavens. Even hordes of Gods angels don't have freedom of will (not all angles look the same or were created for the same purpose). Don't you know that one day we will judge angels!? It's one of the reasons why old hairy legs hates us so much. Use that freedom of will to declare the power and truth that is in Jesus Christ. Use it to bring glory to God and blessings to your own life because life is immeasurably better than death! Which is the only other alternative.
Well, a new earth sounds great but i wonder what is the meaning of a new earth?, a cleansed earth but still this earth we live on right now that God made in the beginning as mentioned in the opening statement of the bible?. A new heaven?, do you mean God will make himself a new spirit realm?
Well there is Armageddon to come yet. There is going to be a massive war between heaven and hell and so much so that even the heavens will get scorched and burned.
Consider what Peter wrote.
First, the "heavens and earth" of the present are reserved for fire against the "day of judgment"
2 Pet. 3:7.
Second, the Judgment will come unexpectedly and suddenly. The heavens and earth will
pass away with a great noise, the elements will dissolve with fervent heat, and the earth and its works shall be consumed
2 Pet. 3:10,12.
Third, after the Judgment, there will be the “new heavens and new earth.”
2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
And consider what John wrote.
"And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth are passed away; and the sea is no more"
Rev. 21:1. The expression "heaven and earth" stands for a place of existence — our familiar environment, i.e., land and sky. But what John saw was not the
first heaven and earth. It was gone. So, he describes, in symbolic fashion, the place of the realm of the saved, where they shall reign “for ever and ever” — not a mere 1,000 years.
This environment of the saved is simply heaven. Paul wrote that our citizenship is in heaven
Phil. 3:20. The apostle also said that we have
one hope, and that our hope is in
heaven Eph. 4:4; Col. 1:5.
In every respect, heaven will be characterized by newness. It is a place never before inhabited by Christians. It is the first time the saved, in a glorified state, will be in the very presence of God — face to face
1 Jn. 3:2; Rev. 22:4. This new state, where sin and death are no more, will be the eternal abode of the saved when the Lord returns, and the living are caught up with the redeemed of all ages to be with the Lord forever
1 Thes. 4:13-18.
I don't necessarily believe the soul is seperate from the physical body, even the scriptures say the soul itself is sinning and will surely die (Ezekiel 18:4) Behold, all the souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. So i only believe that the whole body inwards and outwards will persih and rot and decay back to the earth from whence mankind came from in the very first place.
Yes, we're all made of dust and we'll all return to dust. We're just a bunch of atoms and quarks and chemichals structured together in such a way to form our bodies. Our brains are just grey matter. But our soul, our soul is eternal, it cannot be ended. It is eternal. It can be destroyed. Which is just being damned for eternity for not having faith in Gods grace through Jesus. God will never kill a soul but it will either spend its spiritual state with God or in hell (without God).
Interesting, but why did God bother creating physical body plans if we end up as a spirit entity anyway?
Well God created the earth first and we was never meant to die was we. We'd have been living here forever or for a certain amount of time before being able to go to Heaven. God was around in those days so the door was always open. But because of sin we obviously have to learn how important it is to obey and trust in God. He will restore all things to how they should be and it would all have been for His eternal purpose and glory.
In my research many say that hell, sheol and hades are the common grave of mankind like a tomb, you know like a grave where after death a person would be placed there in the ground.
Yeah well when you die I believe that you either go to sleep or go towards the light. People don't go straight to heaven when they die, their soul goes to sleep. But to people who die, because they were asleep all that time, to them it will seem like they have just died and gone straight to heaven. However for some people, people that have been killed or have killed, I believe sometimes their spirit has trouble "crossing over" if you will or going towards the light because they still have a story to be told.
I have read in other places about this some say that it was representative or symbolic of jerusalem's garbage dumps where the dead were cast into a sulfer pit and burned for a long time, some mention of the lake of gehenna? after a thousand years has passed beyond armageddon after satan is let loose to tempt thos that have not been tempted and tried by satan, this might be the final cut off for satan and his followers, peace ensues, back to paradise?.
Yes that used to be an actual place. But it does also clearly say the lake of fire. That can be taken both literally and metaphorically. Whether it will be an actual lake that is on fire or just some place that may as well be.
Some have said that this period is the thousand year restoration of planet earth?
The 1000 year period is when Christ will reign on the earth for a 1000 years and it will bring an end to the present wicked system of things.
[/QUOTE]Well i learn something new every day, thanks for the kind words.[/QUOTE]
You do! You're welcome brother! Hope to help even if I do rant on a bit!
