Another thread about my boyfriends dad PLEASE HELP!!!!!

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JFSurvivor

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I know I have posted about this before but I am at a complete loss. My bfs dad continues to hurt my bf again and again and again and it is so hard to watch. How on earth am I supposed to respect him? He makes my boyfriend feel worthless! My boyfriend is not worthless. He showed me insane love when no one else did. He believed me when no one else did and he was there for me when no one else was. Now his dad is making him feel awful and I'm supposed to respect him?

What does respect even look like?

What boundaries should I put up?

How can I best help my boyfriend?

Please I really need some answers. I am completely lost and frustrated. Thanks.
 

Joidevivre

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I think this is something your boyfriend needs to do. How old is your boyfriend? Does he have to live at home?
 

JFSurvivor

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I think this is something your boyfriend needs to do. How old is your boyfriend? Does he have to live at home?
he's 21 and yes. he has no other way to live. He is legally blind and has to pay bills and has to pay for school all on minimum wage and with a disabilities check. It just isn't enough where he can begin to save. :-(
 

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I think all you can do is to encourage your bf over and over and over. You can't change his dad. Respect is earned, not just freely given, so don't feel guilty about not respecting your bf's father.

Obviously, pray for them both.
 
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Pray for the dad, you want him and your bf to have a good relationship.
I would only speak prayfully about his Father and continue to love and support your bf.
Not sure what you mean by boundaries?
 

MarcR

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I know I have posted about this before but I am at a complete loss. My bfs dad continues to hurt my bf again and again and again and it is so hard to watch. How on earth am I supposed to respect him? He makes my boyfriend feel worthless! My boyfriend is not worthless. He showed me insane love when no one else did. He believed me when no one else did and he was there for me when no one else was. Now his dad is making him feel awful and I'm supposed to respect him?

What does respect even look like?

What boundaries should I put up?

How can I best help my boyfriend?

Please I really need some answers. I am completely lost and frustrated. Thanks.

Respect has different wasy of manifesting itself!

Respect for God subsumes complete agreement with EVERYTHING God says both in Scripture and through His Spirit within you.

Respect for a person requires that you be civil and cordial while you disagree with them.



Respect for your BF's father does not preclude your telling him that you find his treatment of his son distressing to you and demeaning to both of them. You should however speak sweetly and courteously when you tell him. There should be no hint of sarcasm or disdain in your tone.


You can probably best help your BF by encouraging him to move out of his parents home and distance himself from the verbal abuse.


If your BF is significantly disabled; he is likely eligible for financial assistance from SSI and, depending on what state you live in from State agencies as well.
 

MarcR

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he's 21 and yes. he has no other way to live. He is legally blind and has to pay bills and has to pay for school all on minimum wage and with a disabilities check. It just isn't enough where he can begin to save. :-(
I may catch flack for saying this, but:

If you have sufficient self discipline and commitment to the Lord, you could share expenses and help him with some of his blindness issues WITHOUT sexually compromising yourselves.
 

MarcR

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he's 21 and yes. he has no other way to live. He is legally blind and has to pay bills and has to pay for school all on minimum wage and with a disabilities check. It just isn't enough where he can begin to save. :-(
Most states have programs to fascilitate independent living for the blind.
 

MarcR

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Most states have programs to fascilitate independent living for the blind.
There are probably financial aid programs available to him at school
 
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So sad that you are witnessing this. I manage a homeless shelter and have dealt with legally blind people, who share some of the same horror stories. I makes me sick to think that others would deliberately shame, harm and hurt the blind..but they do. Obviously, his dad is NOT a holy spirit filled Christian..but even with that understood, it is simply inhuman to make his own son feel worse than what he deals with daily. I am not so sure that Social Services would be helpful or not in this case. Respect is to be earned, not just dished out freely to anyone for a smile. Is there a mom involved? Is there a grandparent who would understand or any other family member? Honestly..seems to me that the dad needs his demons evicted in a good old fashioned 'laying on of hands" at a sawdust tabernacle meeting!
 

JFSurvivor

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I may catch flack for saying this, but:

If you have sufficient self discipline and commitment to the Lord, you could share expenses and help him with some of his blindness issues WITHOUT sexually compromising yourselves.
Unfortunately I'm not financially stable either and my parents won't let him move in with us. :'(
 

JFSurvivor

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Pray for the dad, you want him and your bf to have a good relationship.
I would only speak prayfully about his Father and continue to love and support your bf.
Not sure what you mean by boundaries?
boundaries are like metaphorical walls that keep you safe from someone whether it be emotionally pr physically. A physical boundary could be moving out and living somewhere else. An emotional boundary could be like blocking them out when they become verbally abusive and just replying with something like "I'm sorry you feel that way." Make sense?
 

JFSurvivor

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There are probably financial aid programs available to him at school
not really...his grades were in the toilet and he's on academic suspension. So any support he can get from the school...well that's not gonna happen.
 
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Is bf on SSI through his parents or himself? If through his parents, that means he has to work through Social Security to be the payee. Assuming he's on it because of his blindness, that shouldn't be too hard.

If your bf can't save to move out, that means he's probably his own payee and much of his money goes to rent and utilities to his parents/landlords. If that's true, then that's good. He can try for Section 8 through HUD.

Of course, that's also bad, because the waiting list only comes in two varieties -- long and very long. (Long is if you don't live near any major cities. Very long is if you do.)

There's a third choice too. Do you live near any colleges? If you do, then that would mean there's cheap housing near campus. (There is always cheap housing near campuses, because the only people willing to live near rowdy college students are other rowdy college students or people so broke they don't have a second choice.)

BUT, if you're bf finds cheap housing he could afford, if he wasn't paying rent and utilities to his parents, then the only thing that would be needed is for you and he to find part time jobs where you can save up together to afford the deposit and the first 2 months rent. (It might be less than two months rent, but if it is, that's a good thing, because he'll need furnishing, and you can't get all that through FreecycleNetwork.org.)

So start by really looking in the area for a place he could afford. True, if you can find such a place now, and then you have to save to afford it, it shouldn't be available by the time you save, (and if it is, be alarmed, because something is very wrong with it if the landlord can't get new tenants that quickly. For instance, I found such a place once, and it would do, but when I left after looking at it, my ankles itched. When I got home, I figured out why -- fleas. Not good), but it will give you a number to figure out how much you need to get him on his own.

The best way to find such housing is networking, not listings. Ask friends and family, and then ask them to ask their friends and family. Some of our best apartments were never listed. We got them, because either our friends trusted us to be good tenants or trusted their friends who trusted us to be good tenants.

There are ways out. It will take time. You will need to help. But, as far as respecting his Dad? I wouldn't count on that too much. He's not respecting, so that lowers the level of respect he should get. Treat him like you'd treat any stranger you don't know -- polite and cordial. He's not your dad. He's not your friend.
 

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Your question lacks details, what exactly does your boyfriends Dad say or do that hurts his feelings? Some people are just crude, they are direct and don't mince words. Or perhaps the father just has a sarcastic sense of humor? If he's being critical, maybe its just his way of trying to correct problems or help? Super sensitive people are easily offended, so the answer might lie within yourself. If his dad is being downright mean, I'd tell him to lighten up. Otherwise, hurt feelings might be the result of taking him too seriously? You don't respect name calling and such, but constructive criticism can be respected if its accurate and well intended. We all need some of that from time to time.
 

JFSurvivor

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Your question lacks details, what exactly does your boyfriends Dad say or do that hurts his feelings? Some people are just crude, they are direct and don't mince words. Or perhaps the father just has a sarcastic sense of humor? If he's being critical, maybe its just his way of trying to correct problems or help? Super sensitive people are easily offended, so the answer might lie within yourself. If his dad is being downright mean, I'd tell him to lighten up. Otherwise, hurt feelings might be the result of taking him too seriously? You don't respect name calling and such, but constructive criticism can be respected if its accurate and well intended. We all need some of that from time to time.
his dad tells him that he's not a good son and never praises him and always guilts him. He tells him stuff like he's lazy and he's really not. Basically a lot of unconstructive criticism. He also tells his son that he's going to hell and that he's not a good Christian. :-(
 

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his dad tells him that he's not a good son and never praises him and always guilts him. He tells him stuff like he's lazy and he's really not. Basically a lot of unconstructive criticism. He also tells his son that he's going to hell and that he's not a good Christian. :-(
It's a package deal. The in-laws are included and extra cost even though they say they're free.

Sounds like you guys need about ten years to mature enough to consider if the relationship will work.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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his dad tells him that he's not a good son and never praises him and always guilts him. He tells him stuff like he's lazy and he's really not. Basically a lot of unconstructive criticism. He also tells his son that he's going to hell and that he's not a good Christian. :-(
Oh, that's it?

The following questions don't need to be answered online. I want you to think out the answers so you know, not that we need to know. And, in you knowing, you can know if your bf knows. (If he does, then this is nothing to worry about. If he doesn't know, then tell him, so he does.) What does your bf think of himself? Does he have plans for the future for himself? Does he have a path he intends to follow -- a career path that he is capable of achieving? (And, sure he's on academic suspension, but that's just a momentary bump in the road. If he can do what he plans to do and doesn't intend to give up, that's not as big a thing as it probably feels like it is at this point in your life. Think how many students have had that, but made it through the rest of their lives despite that. It's not the end of everything. It's merely a time to reflect and decide if that was the best choices for what to do in life. If he is there because he isn't as capable in that area as he thinks, then maybe it's time to change major, or even consider if he needs college to do what he wants to do.) How does he see himself -- as a victim or an achiever? If he sees himself as a victim, his father may be partially responsible for that, but there's no reason to think simply because a parent has an opinion, the parent is right.

My MIL (who died decades ago) went to a fortuneteller when she only had two children. (She went on to have four more.) The fortuneteller told her one of her boys is the good son who would always be there for her, and the other one was the bad son, who would leave her.

Yeah, I know. "Fortuneteller." At best, about as stupid an idea as anyone can get, but she took it to heart, and while her two sons were very young, she decided which son was which. Which son was the bad son and which was the good son. One took it to heart. The other one took it in stride. She deemed the older boy the one who would break her heart, and he spent the rest of his life proving she was wrong. She deemed the younger one as the one who would stick by her. He wouldn't follow her path. He'd live his own life.

Oddly enough, the oldest never left her, and paid dearly for that. The younger one had a falling out. ("If you marry her, you are no longer my son. Never come home again." He did marry her and took his mother's words to heart. He didn't return home for seven years, and only did when his oldest brother begged him to come to a family gathering.) So the words she took as gospel from a fortuneteller ended it being the exact opposite of what she assumed, but she never even noticed.

What parents tell kids is one thing. What kids decide is another. We must honor our parents, but believing what they say isn't necessarily required. It's often wise not to believe them at times. You don't have to deal with bf's dad. You have to deal with the fallout, if there is any concern for that fallout. As long as bf knows his dad's words are wrong, it will be okay.

If bf knows what his dad says isn't good to believe, this isn't as big a deal as you think. I'm married to MIL's younger son. I wasn't the wife she disapproved of. That was his first wife, and she wasn't wrong there, except two children wouldn't have been born, if he had listened, and I wouldn't have been old enough to even date him, if he hadn't been going through the turmoil of that first marriage. (His BIL was my seventh grade science teacher at that time. I'm 9 years younger than he is, so if we had met then, well...just ewwww! Ya know? lol)

Being in your 20s is tough going. Everything changes then. (It's also a lot of fun, so I wouldn't have skipped my 20s, if given the opportunity, and some horrible things happened to me in my 20s.) BUT, in the grand scheme of life it's just the beginning of a long journey. Everything does work out right, (Rom. 8:28). As long as you can trust your bf to know his dad is heaping garbage on him, this is a fight that doesn't need to happen. Your bf has already won it and knows it. It's worth fighting only if bf doesn't know that's a heap of garbage. Even then, your job isn't to fix his dad. It's to support him/bf.

Many of us wear the scars from our parents. They're only scars. Scars don't define us. They were serious cuts at the time, but they aren't opened wounds forever. They're only scars.
 
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It's a package deal. The in-laws are included and extra cost even though they say they're free.

Sounds like you guys need about ten years to mature enough to consider if the relationship will work.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
BF's father, not FIL yet. If this relationship gets to the point of marriage, at least JFS knows what she's marrying into. My MIL was no saint. Ends up (although we didn't know it all at the time) she was abusive in all four ways -- mentally, physically, emotionally, and sexually. She seemed worth the effort to deal with because her son is well worth that much effort. I married him. I had to honor her as his mother. I didn't marry her.

Hubby and I were married ten months after we first met, or seven months after our first date. There is no telling where this relationship will go based on anything JFS has said, but I truly believe JFS is mature enough to be married.

Maturity she has. Experience is something she gets simply by living life. That she is asking how to deal with this shows she's willing to listen. That's one up on me when I was her age. Maturity isn't an age, it's a willingness to think things out and then decide how to act.
 
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not really...his grades were in the toilet and he's on academic suspension. So any support he can get from the school...well that's not gonna happen.
There's certainly a problem for every solution, isn't it?