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KennyD

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Hello everybody, I have a question that was asked of me at work today and I told the person that I would get the answer for him. The question was if Cain, Abel, and Seth had kids then who was the mother of their children? Can somebody help me with this?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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I suppose:
a) They married their sisters
b) God simply made other people and it just didn't seem important at the time of writing to go in detail about it
 
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Ugly

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Not all of their children were mentioned, I believe. And at the time genes were pure enough that there were no genetic issues to cause problems as there are now. The only way to procreate was with who was available. When the genetics began interfering is when God began forbidding incest.
 
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Hello everybody, I have a question that was asked of me at work today and I told the person that I would get the answer for him. The question was if Cain, Abel, and Seth had kids then who was the mother of their children? Can somebody help me with this?
don't be confused by the situation. it is straight and simple.

cain's children's mother was cain's wife.
abel didn't have children (or did he?) if he did , their mother was abel's wife.
seth's children's mother was seth's wife.
 
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Tintin

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Hello everybody, I have a question that was asked of me at work today and I told the person that I would get the answer for him. The question was if Cain, Abel, and Seth had kids then who was the mother of their children? Can somebody help me with this?
Cain probably married a sister of his, Abel most likely wasn't even married and Seth would've married a female relative. All of them were Adam and Eve's.children. We're told that Adam had other sons and daughters. Cain was the firstborn and Abel was born soon after, but that's not to say Seth was the third born child. That's incredibly unlikely.
 
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blue_ladybug

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Abel got killed by Cain, so maybe he didn't live long enough to have any kids..
 

MarcR

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Hello everybody, I have a question that was asked of me at work today and I told the person that I would get the answer for him. The question was if Cain, Abel, and Seth had kids then who was the mother of their children? Can somebody help me with this?
We are told that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. They married their sisters of course.

The fact is not explicitly stated because God does NOT look favorably on incest. However for the first 3 or 4 generations it was necessary.
 

Dan58

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Hello everybody, I have a question that was asked of me at work today and I told the person that I would get the answer for him. The question was if Cain, Abel, and Seth had kids then who was the mother of their children? Can somebody help me with this?

Many believe that in the beginning, Adam & Eve were not the only 2 people created. I share that sentiment and believe God made men and women of all races on day 6. In Hebrew, 'adam' simply means 'man', and without the article, it means 'mankind' in general (plural), as used in this verse; "And God said, Let us make man in our image" (Genesis 1:26). With the article, ha-adam, it refers to a single man (singular). With the particle 'eth' in addition to the article 'eth-ha-adam', it is very emphatic and refers to a very specific man, as used here; "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground" (Genesis 2:7). The story (and the bible) then centers on this specific man, because it was through his lineage that messiah would come.
(See appendix 14 of The Companion Bible)

So I surmise that other people existed besides A&E. There was no inbreeding, Cain was exiled to the city of Nod where he met a wife unrelated to himself, gave birth to Enoch, and built a city (Genesis 4:16-17).
 

MarcR

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Many believe that in the beginning, Adam & Eve were not the only 2 people created. I share that sentiment and believe God made men and women of all races on day 6. In Hebrew, 'adam' simply means 'man', and without the article, it means 'mankind' in general (plural), as used in this verse; "And God said, Let us make man in our image" (Genesis 1:26). With the article, ha-adam, it refers to a single man (singular). With the particle 'eth' in addition to the article 'eth-ha-adam', it is very emphatic and refers to a very specific man, as used here; "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground" (Genesis 2:7). The story (and the bible) then centers on this specific man, because it was through his lineage that messiah would come.
(See appendix 14 of The Companion Bible)

So I surmise that other people existed besides A&E. There was no inbreeding, Cain was exiled to the city of Nod where he met a wife unrelated to himself, gave birth to Enoch, and built a city (Genesis 4:16-17).

Nod means wandering. There is NOTHING to suggest that it is a certain place. There is nothing in the text to demand that Cain's wife was unrelated.

Speculation is a poor foundation for doctrine.
 
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Nod means wandering. There is NOTHING to suggest that it is a certain place. There is nothing in the text to demand that Cain's wife was unrelated.

Speculation is a poor foundation for doctrine.
or for GOD's WORD (i.e. may be a doctrine to some; but in any and every case GOD'S WORD is TRUE).

ditto: GOD'S WORD, and the way he says it happened , is absolutely sufficient for what he says was done and happened.

i.e. there's no need , nor is it good, to introduce many 'devices', when God made all things simple.
i.i.e. adam and havah are completely sufficient to populate the whole earth, just as GOD'S WORD says.

and, not necessary, but men have proven it over and over again. if someone 'needs' to see that, look it up elsewhere. it is (or was) easily available last year online.
 
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atwhatcost

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Hello everybody, I have a question that was asked of me at work today and I told the person that I would get the answer for him. The question was if Cain, Abel, and Seth had kids then who was the mother of their children? Can somebody help me with this?
Adam and Eve had something like 500 years (plus or minus 100 years) to have kids. They didn't have TV, the Internet, a huge house to clean or many of the other activities we have today, so they probably had 500 kids. (Assuming single births yearly, but no where does it say they couldn't have multiples nor does it say they waited in between, so it is more likely more than that.)

And, since they were roughly 300 years old when they started having kids, by the time they probably stopped, they could have had 200 year old grandkids, and quite probably some great-grands, great-great-grands etc. The kids didn't lack for choices in spouses.

And, since they were the most genetically perfect people, they weren't passing down defective genes, so there were no reasons why siblings couldn't marry. I come from a family of six kids. Four of us have the same mother and father, but the last two have a different mother. I'm 25 years older than my sister, and even years later my youngest brother was born. I was married before they were born, so didn't live at home to get that full connection most have when they grow up with their siblings. There's a good chance Seth didn't grow up with his wives, nor did Cain, but notice Cain moved away and there were still sisters (or nieces) to choose from. The population growth rate was huge back then given the life expectancy and child-bearing ages. Eve wasn't an old lady when she had Cain. She was quite young for that time.

One more thing, since most people ask this because they want to prove evolution: What's the other choice? Did these people mate with another hominid species? First, I'd rather come from incest than an ape, and second, often interspecies procreations are sterile (like the mule, the liger, or the tion.) Since, even to this day, when we have children with close relatives, the chances of deformities is slim. Adam and Eve were more genetically pure than we are today.
 
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Cain probably married a sister of his, Abel most likely wasn't even married and Seth would've married a female relative. All of them were Adam and Eve's.children. We're told that Adam had other sons and daughters. Cain was the firstborn and Abel was born soon after, but that's not to say Seth was the third born child. That's incredibly unlikely.
You forget. Most of the men in the Bible also had more than one wife. :eek: It's likely Cain, Seth, and the rest of the bros had more than one wife.

I doubt they had baby showers back then, since there could have been three per day. lol
 
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We are told that Adam and Eve had other sons and daughters. They married their sisters of course.

The fact is not explicitly stated because God does NOT look favorably on incest. However for the first 3 or 4 generations it was necessary.
Given their length of life, they also could have married cousins, which is still legal today.
 
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Tintin

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You forget. Most of the men in the Bible also had more than one wife. :eek: It's likely Cain, Seth, and the rest of the bros had more than one wife.

I doubt they had baby showers back then, since there could have been three per day. lol
I didn't forget anything. Many men in the Bible had more than one wife, not most. Also, that doesn't automatically mean the first generations etc. had multiple wives. Lamech is the first recorded man to have more than one wife and it's seen as a great sin. And he was a descendant of Cain (many hundreds of years from Creation). I believe Seth would've had one wife and one wife only, as God designed.
 
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Tintin

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Adam and Eve had something like 500 years (plus or minus 100 years) to have kids. They didn't have TV, the Internet, a huge house to clean or many of the other activities we have today, so they probably had 500 kids. (Assuming single births yearly, but no where does it say they couldn't have multiples nor does it say they waited in between, so it is more likely more than that.)

And, since they were roughly 300 years old when they started having kids, by the time they probably stopped, they could have had 200 year old grandkids, and quite probably some great-grands, great-great-grands etc. The kids didn't lack for choices in spouses.

And, since they were the most genetically perfect people, they weren't passing down defective genes, so there were no reasons why siblings couldn't marry. I come from a family of six kids. Four of us have the same mother and father, but the last two have a different mother. I'm 25 years older than my sister, and even years later my youngest brother was born. I was married before they were born, so didn't live at home to get that full connection most have when they grow up with their siblings. There's a good chance Seth didn't grow up with his wives, nor did Cain, but notice Cain moved away and there were still sisters (or nieces) to choose from. The population growth rate was huge back then given the life expectancy and child-bearing ages. Eve wasn't an old lady when she had Cain. She was quite young for that time.

One more thing, since most people ask this because they want to prove evolution: What's the other choice? Did these people mate with another hominid species? First, I'd rather come from incest than an ape, and second, often interspecies procreations are sterile (like the mule, the liger, or the tion.) Since, even to this day, when we have children with close relatives, the chances of deformities is slim. Adam and Eve were more genetically pure than we are today.
For the most part, a very good post.
Adam was 130 years old when Seth was born, not around 300 years old. And Cain was born not long after the Fall of Man. Adam lived for 930 years. Presumably Eve lived for around the same length of time. Seth was Adam and Eve's third child mentioned by name (but of course, they would have had many children between leaving the Garden of Eden and then and beyond). Abel was likely killed not long before Seth was born.

Everyone: Here's a great article, very simple and interesting.

Cain chronology - creation.com
 
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You have to keep in mind that Cain, Abel and Seth lived longer than humans today..it does not mean they married their DNA sisters, although they could have, due to the lack of diseases. They had choices....it could have been neices twice removed, or daughters of nephews and even a cousin's child to another. We do know that Cain "KNEW" his wife..she was NO stranger from a distant land. Initially..the family was all there was. All races, cultures as we know it today came from the 3 sons of Noah: Japheth, Shem, and Ham.
 
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Kaycie

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Sure. Back before the law was given not to marry a close relative, people did that purposely to keep tribes pure. Yes, brother and sister married each other at first, and it was not sinful. Their was no disease given as punishment yet because the law against it had not been given yet. Abraham and Sarah had the same father. And Abraham insisted that his servant go to his own people to Fidel a wife for Isaac. Today that seems really gross, as it should, because it is now wrong. There are enough people on the planet now to not have to resort to marrying a sibling. Besides, we now have the law against it, including consequences for breaking such laws- disease, birth defects, and hereditary troubles.
 
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I didn't forget anything. Many men in the Bible had more than one wife, not most. Also, that doesn't automatically mean the first generations etc. had multiple wives. Lamech is the first recorded man to have more than one wife and it's seen as a great sin. And he was a descendant of Cain (many hundreds of years from Creation). I believe Seth would've had one wife and one wife only, as God designed.
Correction. You didn't forget. I did. Oops! Sorry 'bout that.
 
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iveseenworse

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pure blood sister