Seriously don't know what to do

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Brody

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???I have asked my Wife for a separation. I have asked this before and before that and before that however this time I can no longer deal, there is no making up at this point. WE DESPERATELY NEED A SEPARATION! When I got home tonight asked her what her plan was after I made it incredibly clear that we were finished several times this week even in marriage counseling 2 days ago, she tells me she isn't leaving. Now I feel that I am going to have to get the law involved and possibly a restraining order because for her to know we are this unhealthy and won't leave is insane to me. Why won't I just leave you ask, well its not that easy for me. I'm in a lease and its in my name only. I am the only one who works. However shes a little younger than I and can move back in with family, and it was hard to even get THIS place. However I made it clear that I'd help her along the way financially but she is being very irrational man. I don't know what to do. Please pray that God helps me to be in his will with my decisions. THnk u
 
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how will you decide ?

by what the Bible says clearly ? if so, if you are a follower of Jesus, you cannot send her away.

if she is an unbeliever, she can leave if she wants to , and you shouldn't try to stop her,

but GOD'S WORD says plainly that if she wants to remain, she remains.

move on to other things to regain whatever is possible for all of your well being (everyone involved) .... "other things" , mostly pray, to find out what God opens the door for, to do, in line with His Word.

if you are not a follower of Jesus, you're free to do whatever you want to do legally.(though your soul is lost)...
 
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Brody

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Bro I hear you but my life is at stake man....my character and everything I've worked so hard for, this (as cliche as it may sound) this woman has a heart to ruin me. I have to get away from her. She says she's been a believer ever since we got married however my marriage has been hell, and if its not my fault she finds a way to throw it on me. I'm not talking about petty stuff man I'm talking real deal stupid stuff. The other day I was lied on....LIED on by my own wife about something that could have easily put me in jail, me being a black guy doesn't help, but why would she do these things is my question, man I'm scared man, I work hard to please my wife and she is so cold, so evil acting, i cant stay in this. But thank you for your input
 
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OK...nobody can tell you to remain..only YOU know the silliness, awkwardness and downright ludacrous situation this sounds like. This has nothing to do with you being black. This reeks of stupidiness from both parties. Emotionally, mentally, and perhaps even physically, this sham of a marriage vow has been over. I do not know many husbands who call their wives "EVIL" and that they are "SCARED". Sounds like a Fatal Attraction scenario. Satan is laughing here. For your own sanity...seek council with a holy spirit filled pastor or CHRISTIAN counsellor first. Then, a legal advisor should intervene if you feel your marriage is salvagable. This sounds pretty rocky to me. Is there a reason that this 'cold evil acting" woman keeps her claws in you, lying about you and acting like Jezebel? Perhaps she needs an exorcist, or at least take her to a holy spirit filled church and have her demon(s) expelled in the name of JESUS. Then, with the demon fled, reunite with Jesus being your common bond. THIs is one for a TV reality show!
 
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It may seem crazy, but give the love dare a try. If you aren't familiar you can Google it. The move Fireproof is based on it. The book is a 40 day challenge. I haven't been in that same scenario, but mine is a situation to easily find fault in her. She had an affair. But, that being said, I have to reflect on myself and things I could have done to push her to that. While nothing I did or didn't do comes close to justifying her affair, I still have to ask myself if I was truly the best husband I could be. Though I tried a lot, I can see where I didn't always do the best I could for her, and I kinda justified it by the fact that she didn't always do the best for me. Some people aren't meant to be married though, and sometimes you can't change that. But I'd encourage you to pray for yourself and for her, as well as the marriage. I echo getting some form of counseling, whether together or alone from a pastor you trust. And, I wouldn't throw in the towel just yet. Give thought to the love dare. It will be difficult. But if it works it will be worth it. It will make you a better man regardless. So, nothing is truly lost. I'll admit now that I started it and didn't finish it. That was my fault. I honestly can't say whether or not it would have helped, but it most certainly wouldn't have made my sitation any worse. I hope this helps.
 
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Brody

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OK...nobody can tell you to remain..only YOU know the silliness, awkwardness and downright ludacrous situation this sounds like. This has nothing to do with you being black. This reeks of stupidiness from both parties. Emotionally, mentally, and perhaps even physically, this sham of a marriage vow has been over. I do not know many husbands who call their wives "EVIL" and that they are "SCARED". Sounds like a Fatal Attraction scenario. Satan is laughing here. For your own sanity...seek council with a holy spirit filled pastor or CHRISTIAN counsellor first. Then, a legal advisor should intervene if you feel your marriage is salvagable. This sounds pretty rocky to me. Is there a reason that this 'cold evil acting" woman keeps her claws in you, lying about you and acting like Jezebel? Perhaps she needs an exorcist, or at least take her to a holy spirit filled church and have her demon(s) expelled in the name of JESUS. Then, with the demon fled, reunite with Jesus being your mak is one for a TV reality show!
OK. Perhaps I'll look into it. Smh. That was silly to say man, of course I am exaggerating she's not evil dude you obviously took what I said way too literal. I'm not scared of my wife, me being black lol I was being a little silly but. I didn't mean it the way you took it. God bless you.
However we do have some serious issues I feel we should split over, might seem small to you but living in this stuff is exhausting. Although I'm not literally afraid of her doing something insane, I have been hurt and tired of living this way. There isn't any infidelity we just have no foundation which we can stand on and I cant build that thing alone. And point is I'm tired. I get no uplifting support at home so why remain here? Especially when I bust my tail to keep my family close, safe and all those other things. Anyways man I'll look into that TV deal though.
 

RickyZ

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Well, I think I see at least one issue in play here. You make this sound like a desperate good vs evil situation, then once advised on that, backstroke and say well it's really all not as bad as you made it sound. A penchant for exaggeration does not help create a foundation or an answer. Nor a stable environment. My advice would be to stop looking at her and start looking to God. Be honest with Him, and stabilize your feelings of angst thru that. You have to be stable and rooted before you can hope to stabilize and root your marriage.

I don't know what state you live in, but in a whole lot of them the courts will back the woman. As in they'll give her more rights to your place of residence than they will give you, even if your name is on the lease. Right now you might see a separation/divorce as your only chance for peace. But believe me, divorce proceedings can be a million times more evil than your relationship ever was. Think very carefully before you take that step because it's a long hard fall once you do.
 
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Brody

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Well, I think I see at least one issue in play here. You make this sound like a desperate good vs evil situation, then once advised on that, backstroke and say well it's really all not as bad as you made it sound. A penchant for exaggeration does not help create a foundation or an answer. Nor a stable environment. My advice would be to stop looking at her and start looking to God. Be honest with Him, and stabilize your feelings of angst thru that. You have to be stable and rooted before you can hope to stabilize and root your marriage.

I don't know what state you live in, but in a whole lot of them the courts will back the woman. As in they'll give her more rights to your place of residence than they will give you, even if your name is on the lease. Right now you might see a separation/divorce as your only chance for peace. But believe me, divorce proceedings can be a million times more evil than your relationship ever was. Think very carefully before you take that step because it's a long hard fall once you do.
Ok. Take it how you want brother, this is a desperate. My feelings are all over the place. She is not evil man. Nor am I whatever. Having said that WE are not well off together. It is that bad, at this point I have already made up my mind, now it would take you to know her to understand my position.
 
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atwhatcost

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???I have asked my Wife for a separation. I have asked this before and before that and before that however this time I can no longer deal, there is no making up at this point. WE DESPERATELY NEED A SEPARATION! When I got home tonight asked her what her plan was after I made it incredibly clear that we were finished several times this week even in marriage counseling 2 days ago, she tells me she isn't leaving. Now I feel that I am going to have to get the law involved and possibly a restraining order because for her to know we are this unhealthy and won't leave is insane to me. Why won't I just leave you ask, well its not that easy for me. I'm in a lease and its in my name only. I am the only one who works. However shes a little younger than I and can move back in with family, and it was hard to even get THIS place. However I made it clear that I'd help her along the way financially but she is being very irrational man. I don't know what to do. Please pray that God helps me to be in his will with my decisions. THnk u
Obvious question: why ask if you aren't listening anyway? (Seems to me "No" is as clear as it gets.)
 

RickyZ

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Ok. Take it how you want brother, this is a desperate. My feelings are all over the place. She is not evil man. Nor am I whatever. Having said that WE are not well off together. It is that bad, at this point I have already made up my mind, now it would take you to know her to understand my position.
I don't doubt that the situation is desperate, or that even a little "time off" wouldn't hurt. One of the best things my wife does it every month or two she spends a night or two with her mom or her sister (until she died a couple months ago). You have no idea how rejuvenating that is. But feelings that are "all over the place" are not good ones to base life decisions on. No matter how screwed up the relationship is.

God bless you Brody, I'm praying for an answer for you.
 
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Brody

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Obvious question: why ask if you aren't listening anyway? (Seems to me "No" is as clear as it gets.)
Either I'm going crazy or you may have misunderstood my question. I didn't ask for permission looking for a y/n answer friend. I'm trying to resolve in the matter. Tell me if I'm wrong that's ok but understand where I'm trying to come from in my posts. I'm not a dilusional fool or the bad guy I just want what is best man, that's all. Say what you want but I know what I deal with at my home like in one else does my friend.
 
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Brody

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I don't doubt that the situation is desperate, or that even a little "time off" wouldn't hurt. One of the best things my wife does it every month or two she spends a night or two with her mom or her sister (until she died a couple months ago). You have no idea how rejuvenating that is. But feelings that are "all over the place" are not good ones to base life decisions on. No matter how screwed up the relationship is.

God bless you Brody, I'm praying for an answer for you.
Thank you for that. Man I am soooooo sorry to hear that, man that made my heart drop. Gees I'm really sorry man, keep me in your prayer I know that I'm kindve not thinking clearly possibly right now, that my thoughts are everywhere but I'm trying to please at the end of the day so no I don't want to a emotional decision, keep me in all your prayers if you don't and my wife so that GOD will comfort her as well, give her his lovibg and warm embrace, speak to her help even her to understand that I only mean well in our marriage although I'm not perfect.
 
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Rosesrock

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Either I'm going crazy or you may have misunderstood my question. I didn't ask for permission looking for a y/n answer friend. I'm trying to resolve in the matter. Tell me if I'm wrong that's ok but understand where I'm trying to come from in my posts. I'm not a dilusional fool or the bad guy I just want what is best man, that's all. Say what you want but I know what I deal with at my home like in one else does my friend.
Brody..,,listen...,been there.
Stop pancking..thats what satan wants.
You're married , so...run to your pastor. PRAY specifically NOW. Fall to your knees, beg for your marriage. Cast all your care upon him for he careth for you. This is when faith is put to the test.
Im praying wisdom for you, clarity of mind. Take control not by shoving her away but by spiritually suurounding both your lives with the Holy Spirit
Dear Lord, as your child Brody needs your wisdom. Help him not be fearful but couragous as he wants to know the right things to do. We remember your promise of caring of he and his wife and you want yo help their marriage. I pray for Brody's wife. I pray protection around her. I pray you bind Satan from their marriage and home.
All in your name Father,
Amen
 
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Brody

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Brody..,,listen...,been there.
Stop pancking..thats what satan wants.
You're married , so...run to your pastor. PRAY specifically NOW. Fall to your knees, beg for your marriage. Cast all your care upon him for he careth for you. This is when faith is put to the test.
Im praying wisdom for you, clarity of mind. Take control not by shoving her away but by spiritually suurounding both your lives with the Holy Spirit
Dear Lord, as your child Brody needs your wisdom. Help him not be fearful but couragous as he wants to know the right things to do. We remember your promise of caring of he and his wife and you want yo help their marriage. I pray for Brody's wife. I pray protection around her. I pray you bind Satan from their marriage and home.
All in your name Father,
Amen
Amen. And thank you.
 
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Brody

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I hear what everyone is saying. Trust me for ME to get to this point has been crazy for me, I saw my parents split and was certain I'd never do that. So for me to be here blows my mind. I mean even aside from that I've decided to step down in my church services, I am a worship in my congregation and my mind is so off focus and there's so much going on in my life I don't want to send God any kind of worship, so I'm stepping down awhile until things improve all around, I don't feel God near my own self, however I am emotional right now and trust me I'm a manly man I am not the whiney, needy type, not a cryer but I've been so broken lately, I'm fighting to hold my cry back lol. Seriously. But just keep us in prayer all. God bless
 
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Either I'm going crazy or you may have misunderstood my question. I didn't ask for permission looking for a y/n answer friend. I'm trying to resolve in the matter. Tell me if I'm wrong that's ok but understand where I'm trying to come from in my posts. I'm not a dilusional fool or the bad guy I just want what is best man, that's all. Say what you want but I know what I deal with at my home like in one else does my friend.
Um, did I say you weren't listening to us? I said you weren't listening. SHE said No. (Seems clear.) Now what?
 
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Brody

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Um, did I say you weren't listening to us? I said you weren't listening. SHE said No. (Seems clear.) Now what?
That lost me but ok. Be blessed friend.
 

RickyZ

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Brody, you also have to understand what is going on in the realm of relationships. It is the act of the two making one, wink wink, that establishes a spousal relationship. Spousal relationships are irrevocable. Marriage is the public confession of that spousal relationship. That's why it's void without consummation. Now, you can separate, or even get a judge to declare the marriage dead, but in God's eyes you are still and always will be spousal.

satan attacks marriage, he knows he can't do anything about the spousal part but he can mess with the confession of it. And that's what's really in play here, the confessional. It's kinda like God, you can say He does exist, you can say He doesn't exist, neither of which have any real bearing on His actual existence. Spousal's the same... you can say you're married, you can say you're divorced, either way it has no bearing on the fact that you're spousal.

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take that in for a minute before we move on. Let that set a new mindset.



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Honestly, my impression is that you need "time off". Separate or together you're still spousal, right? But there's a lot of truth in the human adage that familiarity breeds contempt, and absence makes the heart grow fonder. satan plays on that to interfere with our relationships... especially the one with God. The more time you spend sweating your marriage, the less time you have with God, right? It also scatters your brain (I've always joked that love makes you stupid ;)) Yes I know your name is on the lease but finding space in a neutral corner to seek God uninterrupted is more important. For both of you.

I'd start with a two week sabbatical. Make a date night with your wife somewhere in the middle of it (meet her there). Tell her it's not a separation (which is meaningless anyway, right?), you're just taking time to seek God and to stop irritating each other for a bit. Uninterrupted. That means that except for family business, you don't talk on the phone and you hang up as soon as it gets personal (she of course knowing that this is the rule from the beginning). I mean, the war's not over by making this move but I think a temporary cease fire couldn't hurt at this point.



You know, you break your arm and you give it a rest to let it heal. Your soul is no different.



Please feel free to print his out and share it with her. You both need a break - not an end - and I pray the Holy Spirit open her eyes to it. And that the Spirit open yours to the fact that, you can get the separation, you can get the divorce, but you're still spousal.

Do what you do with that in mind.
 
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FCamble

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I don't know what to do. Please pray that God helps me to be in his will with my decisions. THnk u
I don't have to pray to God to tell you what to do to be in His will.
I know it by heart...here I will tell you. You reap what you sow. You are reaping what you have sown.
The only thing that you can do to make everything good...is to start sowing good.

Then you will reap ...good. Until then you are stuck with what you have already sown.

Grown up and be a man of God and do what is right.

No matter what.

Then you will be able to enjoy the fruits of your labor.

Until then you get what you deserve.
 
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Wornwarrior

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Brody, I'm in the middle of a separation and let me tell you one thing. The pain and confusion only gets worse! If she is willing to and wanting to work this out, then seek Gods strength to help you hang in there and get past the anger and hurt that you are currently going through. Be glad that there was no infidelity going on, and I do understand how messed up a marriage can get. Its not easy being with someone who is abusive in any way. Just a suggestion: Get away for a few days to clear your mind and pray. Come back, and start showing her a new kind of unconditional love, like Christ shows towards us. Give it some time to take root. Work to save your marriage. Its not always possible but God will bless you for it. I tried for over a year to save mine, but there was too much betrayal, abuse and unfaithfulness. Ultimately, you will be the one to choose. Try to seek Gods will. God bless you and I am praying for you and your wife. xx