When do you sit on someone?

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damombomb

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It makes it hard when the parents do not make them behave. But he will respect you! At least he is getting some direction. You can not let a kid run the house. Keep up the good work.

I had this happen before and went and talked to the Dad and told him i was going to spank his kid if he didn't. The Mom always
wanted me to discipline her kid. That kid graduated valedictorian. I honestly did not like that kid, he was rude, smartellic, on and on.

Parents need to take responsibility for their children, not leave it to others.
 

Dan58

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His dad took me aside later and said thanks, I can't get away with that.

His Dad is the one who needs paddling.. His wimpy excuse for having an unruly child just doesn't fly. He ought to be embarrassed that his boy is out of control, but even more so that he's afraid of his wife. Next time, tell him to get some balls and be a father. In time, I think children respect and appreciate parents who care enough to exercise some discipline.
 

HoneyDew

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They better get the little boy straight. They think he is a problem now, they haven't seen anything yet. Wait until he hits his teens.
 
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purgedconscience

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You are right and I'll take my lashes. I did hold back with the language in front of the kid, that's probably why I couldn't help venting it here. It's still wrong. Please forgive me.
Just to level the playing field, only yesterday I was stuck behind some terrible drivers on the road and I couldn't believe the things that I heard coming out of my own mouth. I'm very much a work in progress myself, but, thankfully, there has been some progress and, hopefully, plenty more to come.
 
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BarlyGurl

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Just to level the playing field, only yesterday I was stuck behind some terrible drivers on the road and I couldn't believe the things that I heard coming out of my own mouth. I'm very much a work in progress myself, but, thankfully, there has been some progress and, hopefully, plenty more to come.
That is very transparent of you purged... thank you for that. And I laugh some because you were in a mere traffic moment... while ricky had been suffering days of the little mons...er I mean boy... disrupting the sanctity of his OWN home.:)
 
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purgedconscience

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That is very transparent of you purged... thank you for that. And I laugh some because you were in a mere traffic moment... while ricky had been suffering days of the little mons...er I mean boy... disrupting the sanctity of his OWN home.:)
Regardless of the catalyst (bad drivers, bad children, etc.), certain types of anger shouldn't reside in our hearts:

Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 9

Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.


I believe that there is such a thing as righteous indignation and even Jesus got angry at times and looked upon certain people in anger as well according to the gospel accounts, however, what came out of my mouth yesterday wasn't justifiable in the least. I had been zooming along just fine, barely escaping rush hour traffic right up until about a mile before my home and then the road was like a parking lot. Apparently, they were paving the road (right at rush hour which never ceases to amaze me) and I had to make a U-turn, go back a few miles and basically take a twisting, curvy mountainous road to try to avoid it all...and the people in front of me were driving as if driven by the wind which wasn't blowing. Seriously, I could have passed them on a skateboard. Well, maybe not that bad...haha. I basically erupted and, in a backhanded sort of way, I'm glad that I did because it exposed an area of my life that apparently still needs work. Good thing that my vehicle didn't come equipped with a laser beam inside of its hood ornament or I might be repenting of murder right about now. haha!
 

RickyZ

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Okay - update time!

So, after the big blowout, the next day the kid was pretty good. He challenged me once in the afternoon, but I just looked at him and asked if he really thought it was a good idea to poke the bear. he said no and settled down. Later that evening he challenged my wife. As soon as she started to raise her voice, I asked him if he knew what would happen if he made her angry. He said yes and again settled down. About 5 minutes later he walked up to her, hugged her and said "I'm sorry I made you mad". Seeing that I called him over, gave him a big hug and a kiss on the forehead, and said thank you Austin that was very nice of you, I really appreciate your doing that. He sat quietly and watched a movie with us, then went to bed without a fuss. I went to tuck him in and said isn't it a lot nicer when we're not yelling at each other? And he agreed it was.

The next morning, as soon as he woke up he was back to his old tricks. We had a 5 hour drive to the hotel, and it wasn't long after we arrived that he gave my wife so much grief that she went outside and cried for an hour. The plan was that he was to spend the night at our house when we got home the next day. I called his dad and told him he was to be at the airport when we arrived to take his kid home instead.

This morning as we checked in for our flight he took off. It took us some time to find him. When we did my wife started to scold him, he looked at her and said, seriously, "yeah yeah yeah blah blah blah". The only reason I didn't smack his smart mouth was because there was a cop standing behind him. He continued and finally I told him, Austin, if you say one more word you're spending the night in the hospital and I'm going to spend the night in jail. He must have known I was serious because he settled down.

What really peeved me is when we landed, I found out that my wife had gone behind my back and told his father not to come get him. That led to a fight between us, and, long story short, she and the brat are spending the night at her moms.

I'm so tired of this. It's one thing to have to deal with the kid, but when I try to impose a consequence for his actions to benefit her and she stabs me in the back like this... What do I do? I'm tired of the anger and strife and disrespect and all I want to do is find some place to serve God in peace and harmony. And yet I try to do something to give my wife peace from it and she does this. She choses that brat kid and his grief over me. Maybe I should just go live in the new place by myself and let her suffer in CA. It seems to be what she wants because she spent considerable effort defending that kid and how he treats her. I just don't get it.

Dan you are right. Dad is the one who most needs paddling. Get this - one day he left the kid at grandmas for the day. When he showed up to pick him up, he tosses a handful of candy on the table and says "Austin here's your dinner". That's where the trouble really starts. There's a line from a movie (Father of The Bride I think) where a character says "you have to have a license to drive a car, you have to have a license to cut hair, you have to have a license to catch a fish - but any scum-sucking butthole can be a father".

Truer words are rarely said.
 

RickyZ

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Regardless of the catalyst (bad drivers, bad children, etc.), certain types of anger shouldn't reside in our hearts:

Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 9

Be not hasty in thy spirit to be angry: for anger resteth in the bosom of fools.


I believe that there is such a thing as righteous indignation and even Jesus got angry at times and looked upon certain people in anger as well according to the gospel accounts, however, what came out of my mouth yesterday wasn't justifiable in the least. I had been zooming along just fine, barely escaping rush hour traffic right up until about a mile before my home and then the road was like a parking lot. Apparently, they were paving the road (right at rush hour which never ceases to amaze me) and I had to make a U-turn, go back a few miles and basically take a twisting, curvy mountainous road to try to avoid it all...and the people in front of me were driving as if driven by the wind which wasn't blowing. Seriously, I could have passed them on a skateboard. Well, maybe not that bad...haha. I basically erupted and, in a backhanded sort of way, I'm glad that I did because it exposed an area of my life that apparently still needs work. Good thing that my vehicle didn't come equipped with a laser beam inside of its hood ornament or I might be repenting of murder right about now. haha!
I hear you on that one! The town we are moving to - you get in your car and drive 4 or 5 blocks before you see another car. If someone is on a side street, even if they have time to pull in front of you they wait and let you pass. And then they wave all five fingers at you, not just the one. The only time I've gotten caught in traffic there, I had to slow all the way down to the speed limit! (I jest, I keep it to within a few mph any way because out there a 30 minute drive actually only takes 30 minutes). But you know, that really sums it up. Our environment has a huge affect on us. We shouldn't let it but it does. Which is exactly why I'm changing our environment and refusing to let any of the old environment in with us. Too bad this kid had to drag it along with him.
 

RickyZ

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You know, this is about me as much as it is this kid. Truth be told I'm supposed to adopt him at some point. But as you see I'm pretty thin skinned these days. I'm just exhausted. 58 years of livin in a world that goes out of it's way every day to make sure I know it doesn't want me, has left me exhausted. Empty, reserves gone, lick the beaters and scraped the bowl. Frankly, for the last 15 years I've wondered where the energy to draw the next breath was going to come from. So when it comes to needing the energy to be more resilient... it's just not there. There's just a big gaping hole where my mojo used to be.

And I've been thru this before. My little brother is exactly like him and has my parents pretty much under house arrest in their own home (he's 55). The only thing sicker than that is that they willingly submit to him! It's deja vu in someplace new and I'm just not in the right place for that!

The Holy Spirit likes to fill things... pray the Spirit fill this hole with the energy and wisdom to do what I've been called to do.
 

presidente

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I think you ought to encourage his dad to discipline him. If he's bigger and stronger than the 11-year-old, he could probably pull it off. You could also tell his parents that if the child is going to be in your home, the condition is you have the right to spank him if he gets out of line. Get their agreement to it in front of him. The problem is, I'm sure you don't want to do that. I wouldn't spank someone else's kid. Hopefully, the credible threat would be enough at least for a day or two. The other problem is, it would show up his dad for being bad at keeping his boy in line, and the mom, too. And I suppose it could undermine them. But they can discipline him if they want, and that's not on you.
 
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Standing

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Heavenly Father.
I pray in Jesus name, that you will bless this little boy with love Father.
Fill him with Your grace, and loving kindness, and let his path be full of Your loving kindness Lord. Let it overtake him and his parents. Love Love Love. For You ARE Love Father.
Thankyou Father. Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou Thankyou.
Amen :)