Homosexual Brother, need HELP!

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Jesus12

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Hi everyone,

I am at a loss because my brother is a homosexual and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

God BLESS!!!!!!!
 
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JML

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If my sister was homosexual,..I would reference with her what it says in the Bible about being a homosexual. Then I would just leave it alone, and continue loving her. I know of some people whom committed suicide because their families would not except them. Not sure if this would help....but its all I got,....LOVE THEM.
 

blue_ladybug

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A good christian would tell him that homosexuality IS a sin, and it IS un-natural for two men to be having sex. Tell him God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.. :/ Be honest, tell him he's in danger of going to hell if he doesn't repent and stop living this lifestyle.. Love him, but if he continues this lifestyle, cut him off. Maybe being disowned by his family will be what gets him to realize what he's doing is wrong.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Its not an easy thing to do. I came from this life, and I had help from a friend. But my biggest reason for leaving that life and coming to God is because He showed me what was going to happen to me when I died. I have some advice though.

I did have a Christian friend growing up, he was very devout and serious about the Lord at the time we met (he still is, but has struggled like the rest of us as he got older). I was someone who, at the time, hated God and insulted Him. My friend was absolutely open about his faith in Him, and I knew about it. We had no reason to friends /at all/, but for some reason he and I really got along way well, and he pushed me to be his friend, and was very nice to me, and I ended up really liking him too, and opened up and became his friend.

He knew how I felt about God, and he would talk to me sometimes about Him. And if one of us got to angry, and the conversation got heated, he would change the subject and make a joke to calm everything down.

When I opened up to him about how I wanted to live my life, he wasnt "supportive", as in he didnt tell me anything like "you should be free to live how you want, dont be ashamed", but he didnt react in anger with me either. He just affirmed that he understood what I was saying to him, and stood by Gods word, but still treated me as a loving friend.


He was nice to me, he helped me, he listened to me, he stood by me. He never showed support for what I was doing, but when I faced people who made me feel bad about it, he would listen to me, and tell me he thought they were wrong in doing so, even while standing by Gods word. And because I felt that he actually did love me as a brother and care about me, I stayed friends with him, believing that even though his views were "backwards" and he was just naive and didnt understand the "real world", he was an awesome friend that I could trust. And when God let what happened to me happen, I knew I had a brother in Christ I could run to to help me.


Sorry for the long story, my point is to be loving of your brother, even though he has walked into sin. Dont let him believe you hate him, or that you and he are now enemies, because the enemy will be putting this into his head to keep him from God. Be there for him, and let him know you love him, and that he can trust you. And pray for him. When the conversation about God comes up, dont become angry, even if he insults God. Stand by the word of God, but do it with love. Assure Him that God could help him, and that God doesnt hate him, and that God does hate all forms of sexual immorality, such as adultry, pornography and all these things common in our world. And pray that the Lord help him see why its wrong, and hopefully one day he will answer the Lords calling, and come to Him with trust that he doesnt need to act out on these urges to be happy.


Hope that helps.
 

santuzza

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I usually agree with Blue Ladybug, but I don't on this one.

Yes, tell him that from a biblical standard, he is sinning and in danger of eternal damnation. And I would make sure he knows that it's not YOU saying this, but GOD.

Then drop it. Here's where I differ from Ladybug -- I wouldn't cut him off. Be his sister and love him, but be guarded in your relationship -- meaning, do not reveal your most intimate thoughts and feelings to him. He cannot be your best friend (if he ever was). Your most intimate relationships need to be with other Christians. So keep him at arm's length. You don't want him to not come to you if/when he realizes that he is sinning and needs salvation.

I have the same problem with my brother -- he is living an unrepentant lifestyle (not homosexuality, but other sinful activity). I have given him the Gospel, but I don't push it on him, and there are topics that are simply off limits with him. He's my brother, and I love him, but I'm not going to engage, encourage or otherwise condone his behavior. And he knows that.

And PRAY, PRAY, PRAY for him.
 
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Jesus12

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Thank you so much everyone. I have been struggling with this, because people have told me to cut him off, but it doesn't always feel like the right thing to do... on the other hand engaging with him doesn't feel right either because he doesn't respect the Lord and he says so. I will pray for him.
 
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Jesus12

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What do you guys think about homosexual people who say that they have a relationship with the Lord and that homosexuality is not a sin when it's in a committed relationship? This is something that my brother says to me that I do not agree with but I don't know what to say to him.

Thank you for HIS wisdom!!!
 

Yeraza_Bats

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Thank you so much everyone. I have been struggling with this, because people have told me to cut him off, but it doesn't always feel like the right thing to do... on the other hand engaging with him doesn't feel right either because he doesn't respect the Lord and he says so. I will pray for him.
No, dont cut him off : p Dont let others try to pull you away from Christ or anything (and he might, cuz I did that too), and if you dont feel strong in faith then you should definitely take time to be alone with Christ and get closer to Him first. But he will need someone encouraging him to trust in the Lord. I am 100% sure he currently has an unseen being whos working hard to make sure he sees Him as the enemy, so hell need someone whos looking out for him.
 
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vegasbill

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Romans 1:26-28...homosexuality is a sin.
 
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Jesus12

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so what would you do in this situation Vegasbill?
 

Yeraza_Bats

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What do you guys think about homosexual people who say that they have a relationship with the Lord and that homosexuality is not a sin when it's in a committed relationship? This is something that my brother says to me that I do not agree with but I don't know what to say to him.

Thank you for HIS wisdom!!!

You should definitely disagree with him on something there. Not in an angry "I have to win this argument" kinda way, but it is right to tell him that God is not okay with homosexuality, and that Christ also shares this stance in Matthew 19:4-7. ("What God has joined together, let no man seperate." This is said in the same sentence as "God made them male and female") Homosexuality is called an abomination. The only time its lawful for sexual intercourse is for a man and wife who are married, in order to fulfill the need. There is no verse that allows for homosexuality, but many that condemn it.


If he argues the need, I would definitely suggest that the need refers to the urging of the flesh, and not actually acting out on what you think is arousing. I deal with the temptation too, I can say that if it was only the urging of the flesh that bothered me, I could take care of it lawfully with my wife as God has commanded whether or not she caused me "arousal" : p Acting out on what tempts you is not your need, some people would argue that, but I dont believe thats in any way correct : p Im 100% convinced that God is referring to the issue of our flesh : p
 
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Jesus12

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My brother has a man that he sees. I feel filthy just writing that line down. But he does have a man that he lives with and engages with. They have been doing this for almost a year, and my brother tells me he loves this other man.

What did you do Yeraza? It seems like you have struggled with this quite a bit, but found the right path. What was it like for you?
 
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vegasbill

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I would go talk to a person I could trust that could lead me to the right person to get some help.
 

santuzza

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If your brother tries to corner you into an argument about what "you believe" about homosexuality, I would completely turn the argument around and say that it's not "your belief" but "God's belief."

You are not the one condemning his lifestyle, it is God -- it's in His Word and you are just communicating that.
 
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A good christian would tell him that homosexuality IS a sin, and it IS un-natural for two men to be having sex. Tell him God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.. :/ Be honest, tell him he's in danger of going to hell if he doesn't repent and stop living this lifestyle.. Love him, but if he continues this lifestyle, cut him off. Maybe being disowned by his family will be what gets him to realize what he's doing is wrong.
It won't, trust me. In the mind of a person addicted to homosexuality, it's who they are, not what they do. So instead of thinking that they are doing wrong and should change their behavior, they will think their family has rejected them for who they are. That's why this won't work; it will just make them more hardened because they will cling harder to what they think is themselves. I know; just like Yeraza_Bats, I've been there too.

A major way to help a person addicted to homosexuality is to let them know that homosexuality is not their actual identity, but a much distorted version of who they were meant to be. God made us in His image, but the enemy only comes to steal, kill, and destroy. So the enemy will try to distort and destroy God's image as much as he can. If you look at homosexuality and other forms of sex not sanctioned by God (fornication, adultery, promiscuity, etc.), you will probably notice that they are all distortions of heterosexuality and/or sex within a marriage, ranging from sex in the wrong context to a glaring perversion of sex itself. Homosexuality is a distortion. That's why there's so much identity confusion and despair there; it's not how we're meant to be.

He needs to understand that homosexuality is not who he is; it's how the enemy is trying to distort who he really is (the way God made him).
 

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Jas 5:16 Confess your faults one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much.

Only God can change hearts. Pray for your brother. Pray for him as if he had a disease that was going to take his very life. If you attend a local church enlist their assistance in holding your brother up before the Lord that he might come to true and genuine saving knowledge of Jesus Christ.

For the cause of Christ
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Yeraza_Bats

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My brother has a man that he sees. I feel filthy just writing that line down. But he does have a man that he lives with and engages with. They have been doing this for almost a year, and my brother tells me he loves this other man.

What did you do Yeraza? It seems like you have struggled with this quite a bit, but found the right path. What was it like for you?

What do you mean? What was what like for me? Like I said, I really didnt come to Him of my own will. I did begin to open up and believe in Him, but I was still living for my desires, and it was because He showed me what was going to happen to me that I came to Him, and left my life of self pleasing.
 

Yeraza_Bats

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It won't, trust me. In the mind of a person addicted to homosexuality, it's who they are, not what they do. So instead of thinking that they are doing wrong and should change their behavior, they will think their family has rejected them for who they are. That's why this won't work; it will just make them more hardened because they will cling harder to what they think is themselves. I know; just like Yeraza_Bats, I've been there too.

Yes! This is entirely true. People who live this life accept the teaching that its who they are, they way they are made. So when we turn against them, they tell themselves we hate them for something they cant control, and believe that we are "biggots". We should be there for them, being the best representatives of Christ we can. We should love them, just as Christ loved them that He gave His life for them.

What they do, what we do, its nothing more than acting out on a desire. You cant control being tempted, just as we cant control being tempted to over eat, to hate our brothers, to constantly be angry and selfish, to keep and build up for ourselves. But we can choose how to act out on it, and we can choose to say no to it. Then after that comes having faith that you dont need to fulfill these desires to be happy, which is the hard part. But if we accept and allow Him to change our hearts, we can be fulfilled in Him : 3
 
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Hi everyone,

I am at a loss because my brother is a homosexual and it is causing me to loose sleep at night. I don't know what to do. I am saved and I'm so lucky to have found the lord but my brother is not. He does not see what he is doing as sin and it's tearing my family apart. I want to be a good sister to him, but i don't want to associate with him if he does not see what he is doing a a sin. I am sick about this. I don't know what a good Christian would do. Any help would be appreciated from one Christian to another.

God BLESS!!!!!!!
If your love for your brother is conditional, then I suppose it's okay for you to disassociate yourself from him. I would argue, he isn't losing much if you do this though.

Unconditionally love and be there for him, especially in his time of need. The Spirit converting one's heart isn't an over night process most of the time. It takes a multitude of events, which vary in time, for a person's heart to be soft enough to hear the Holy Spirit convicting him/her (assuming it ever were to happen).

My advice, love him as you would your other siblings. You don't have to love what he does or what he doesn't believe, but that isn't your burden to bare. It was Christs'.
 
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A good christian would tell him that homosexuality IS a sin, and it IS un-natural for two men to be having sex. Tell him God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.. :/ Be honest, tell him he's in danger of going to hell if he doesn't repent and stop living this lifestyle.. Love him, but if he continues this lifestyle, cut him off. Maybe being disowned by his family will be what gets him to realize what he's doing is wrong.
1.) Homosexuality does occur in nature. Research it... at the very least, google it.

It's really irrelevant if it does or doesn't occur in nature anyways. The fact it does occur in nature doesn't make it any less immoral. Rape and incest occur in nature, but we, as Christians, know it's immoral. If God said drinking soda is a sin, then it's a sin... not because soda is "unnatural".

2.) If we cut everyone off who refused to own up to their transgressions, we would be alone in this world.

3.) If the only reason he stops acting on his homosexual feelings is out of fear of being disowned by his family, then he hasn't really had a change of heart. His heart is still burdened, but he is submitted against his desire for all the wrong reasons (he doesn't want his family to disown him)... the right reason is because God commanded us to refrain from homosexuality.