WHAT NOT TO DO IN A RELATIONSHIP

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JesusLives

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Next week I will get to go to court with my Daughter because of a good example of What Not To Do In A Relationship.

Background story:

Daughter has been in a 8 year relationship with her boyfriend, 7 of those years they have lived together. (That was their first mistake.) Boyfriend has asked my Daughter several times over the years to marry him. (To me that was a mistake on her part not to.) She never want to have children so at least there aren't kids involved that they brought into the world. However, Boyfriend has one Son from previous marriage, ex-wife is referred to as satan. (His mistake for marrying her for a green card.) Boyfriend also entered relationship with $26,000.00 debt in back taxes. Of which Daughter helped him get it paid off in the 7 years they lived together. Daughter also encouraged him to get more custody of his Son paying most of the living expenses in the last two years while he used his money to pay off IRS Debt and lawyer costs in getting more custody. About 6 months ago Daughter quit her job due to stress and anxiety.

Recently (within the last month) found a receipt in the car for two drinks and a rose of which she did not get. One drink would have been for her Boyfriend another fruity drink that he probably would not have drank....She suspects another woman.

Fast forward 8 years later:

4/19/2016 Daughter started a new job I talked with her that evening to see how things went. Wednesday I called in the evening but got her voice mail. Thursday morning her Boyfriend calls me asking if I had heard from her and I had not. He asked me if I knew where she was and I didn't. The next 33 minutes we talked and I asked questions at the end of the call I knew she had been arrested for attacking him, supposedly putting pictures of naked women on his 12 year old Son's phone, putting a porn movie on top of Son's clothes in a dresser. I am telling Boyfriend that this sounds out of character for her. I'm not saying she didn't do it and not saying she did, there are other players involved and if I were a detective I would look at all suspects.

His Son - just recently got more custody of him for Son to stay overnight one night a week and have him for one weekend a month, and two weeks in the summer. Son, wanted it at first but realized that he was now living with real Dad and not Fun Dad since it was a week night and homework had to be done and they weren't playing and doing something fun now every time he saw his Dad.... Started not wanting to come over when it was the day to be with his Dad, would cry at the drop of a hat over anything, started wetting the bed at night. He's 12 and should be starting to work out of that phase.... My Daughter was encouraging Boyfriend to try and get help for Son to talk to a Physic Dr. His Son even got on a school bus to ride home when he knew his Dad was coming to the school to pick him up trying not to go spend the night with his Dad. But he ended up just wasting 2-3 hours of time because he still ended up staying with his Dad that night.

Because of Daughter trying to get Boyfriend to get help for his Son and Son not wanting to stay with them, crying and all Boyfriend is now blaming my Daughter for the Son's problems saying He doesn't like the way she is talking to his Son. Since she doesn't have a job she doesn't do anything just sitting around watching TV.

Daughter has been selling things on Ebay to bring in some money and has been able to pay for her bills with monies made from doing that, cooking, cleaning, doing laundry. Running a home....so she rebels at that remark and stops doing all above mentioned household duties. But still selling things on Ebay... She wanted him to see she was doing things and not sitting around doing nothing.

So I talked to Daughter to get her side of the story:

First day of her new job as she is getting ready to go to new job she has bathroom door locked and has Boyfriends cell phone in the bathroom with her seeing that woman texted a message to Boyfriend at 6AM. Boyfriend is banging on bathroom door wanting his phone. Unlocks bathroom door to get his phone she confronts him about woman and uses a lint roller on him in not a good way. He gets her cell phone like he is going to do something with it and she starts fighting with him to get it away and left scratches on him. Goes to her first day of work.

Comes home goes into bedroom locks the door as she just wants to be left alone. He comes home with his Son, unlocks the bedroom door and starts arguing with her again. She tells him to leave her alone she is watching a movie and going to sleep. She does go to sleep and the next thing she knows there are two cops standing at the end of the bed waking her up. Boyfriend has pressed charges shown them the scratches from the morning issue and the police go away and talk for a while my Daughter goes back to sleep when she wakes up again there is a woman police officer with the two male officers telling her to get up they are taking her to jail... (In pajamas I might add)

She had no idea why she was being arrested until they had her in the car and she asked they said for domestic violence. They keep her up all night long in the processing process and release her Wednesday morning. She is out on the street in PJ's, no phone, no money and no way to get home. In the meantime Boyfriend puts a restraining order on her. She bumbs a ride home from a stranger. Gets a few belongings and She has been staying with 3 other women in a house one of the women she had met recently had offered her a place to stay telling her about other roommates. So temporary until she can find her own place.

Sorry this is such a long post, but I am soliciting prayers for this situation. My Daughter and I are both stunned that her Boyfriend would do this to her after an 8 year relationship. I have treated him like a Son and always respectful toward him. My Daughter has been asking him to go to counseling with her for a while now and he has said No. When I last talked to him I said you thought throwing her in jail was a better solution than going to see a counselor who could have helped you all get through this rough patch?

Well the relationship is over as my Daughter is now afraid of him plus he has been cheating on her. Now that he has had a few days to cool off he regret putting her in jail and is wanting her to come back and she said to me - How can I go back when the trust is gone? How do I get past the cheating and if he gets mad at me again will he throw me in jail again?

I am not saying my Daughter is right in attacking him, but he kept pushing her when she wanted to be left alone behind closed locked doors. We get to go to court next week. More than likely it will be dismissed as she has never done anything like this before.

PS: She did not put naked women on kids cell phone or the porn movie in the drawer.... Suspect that kid did it in an effort to not come and stay with his Dad....as Son has done other things to avoid coming over.

Again prayers please....

This has been a Big Example of What Not To Do In A Relationship.
 
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psychomom

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oh, :(

i will be happy to pray with you for this whole thing.

goodness, my ridiculous brother-in-law had my niece arrested (when he could easily have dealt with that silly topic in family).
she was home from work for lunch, all chicked-out for work, and the arresting officers took one look at her and told her to wash her face, put her hair in a simple ponytail, and put on some baggy sweats. they waited patiently.

i'm so sorry the police in your daughter's case weren't as wise or as kind. :(
 
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Oh my, I'm so sorry JesusLives that you & your family are going through this. I will be praying for sure!

Unfortunately, whoever press charges first and has more available proof is the one the police will listen to. I mean, it stands to reason, the police are paid to keep order so the one who is doing the reporting is the one they consider the victim until it goes to court and is proven otherwise.

In the meantime, two things can happen in court. They will ask her boyfriend if he wants to either:
1. Drop all charges
2. Issue a PFA which states your daughter and he can have absolutely no contact for a certain amount of months or there will be jail time for one or both of them (whichever one is guilty)

I think the best solution for your daughter is to live on her own and let God heal her heart. That situation is too toxic and dangerous. Too much anger, too much mistrust, too much manipulation, no peace.

I recommend your daughter contact a domestic violence hotline ASAP and get counseling for herself and advice regarding her case. I can tell you that when she appears in court and explains how she has been seeking ways to resolve the conflicts in her life in a wise and lawful way, that will help her case. Also, most local domestic abuse shelters offer free legal representation.

Here's a few numbers that can offer help:

The National Domestic Violence Hotline | 24/7 Confidential Support

Home

Introduction - Domestic Violence
 
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blue_ladybug

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She can't go back, because there is no trust now. She'll get past the cheating by dumping his sorry ascot and moving on from this whole mess. She would be very foolish to still stay with him after this stunt..
 

JosephsDreams

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Next week I will get to go to court with my Daughter because of a good example of What Not To Do In A Relationship.

Background story:

Daughter has been in a 8 year relationship with her boyfriend, 7 of those years they have lived together. (That was their first mistake.) Boyfriend has asked my Daughter several times over the years to marry him. (To me that was a mistake on her part not to.) She never want to have children so at least there aren't kids involved that they brought into the world. However, Boyfriend has one Son from previous marriage, ex-wife is referred to as satan. (His mistake for marrying her for a green card.) Boyfriend also entered relationship with $26,000.00 debt in back taxes. Of which Daughter helped him get it paid off in the 7 years they lived together. Daughter also encouraged him to get more custody of his Son paying most of the living expenses in the last two years while he used his money to pay off IRS Debt and lawyer costs in getting more custody. About 6 months ago Daughter quit her job due to stress and anxiety.

Recently (within the last month) found a receipt in the car for two drinks and a rose of which she did not get. One drink would have been for her Boyfriend another fruity drink that he probably would not have drank....She suspects another woman.

Fast forward 8 years later:

4/19/2016 Daughter started a new job I talked with her that evening to see how things went. Wednesday I called in the evening but got her voice mail. Thursday morning her Boyfriend calls me asking if I had heard from her and I had not. He asked me if I knew where she was and I didn't. The next 33 minutes we talked and I asked questions at the end of the call I knew she had been arrested for attacking him, supposedly putting pictures of naked women on his 12 year old Son's phone, putting a porn movie on top of Son's clothes in a dresser. I am telling Boyfriend that this sounds out of character for her. I'm not saying she didn't do it and not saying she did, there are other players involved and if I were a detective I would look at all suspects.

His Son - just recently got more custody of him for Son to stay overnight one night a week and have him for one weekend a month, and two weeks in the summer. Son, wanted it at first but realized that he was now living with real Dad and not Fun Dad since it was a week night and homework had to be done and they weren't playing and doing something fun now every time he saw his Dad.... Started not wanting to come over when it was the day to be with his Dad, would cry at the drop of a hat over anything, started wetting the bed at night. He's 12 and should be starting to work out of that phase.... My Daughter was encouraging Boyfriend to try and get help for Son to talk to a Physic Dr. His Son even got on a school bus to ride home when he knew his Dad was coming to the school to pick him up trying not to go spend the night with his Dad. But he ended up just wasting 2-3 hours of time because he still ended up staying with his Dad that night.

Because of Daughter trying to get Boyfriend to get help for his Son and Son not wanting to stay with them, crying and all Boyfriend is now blaming my Daughter for the Son's problems saying He doesn't like the way she is talking to his Son. Since she doesn't have a job she doesn't do anything just sitting around watching TV.

Daughter has been selling things on Ebay to bring in some money and has been able to pay for her bills with monies made from doing that, cooking, cleaning, doing laundry. Running a home....so she rebels at that remark and stops doing all above mentioned household duties. But still selling things on Ebay... She wanted him to see she was doing things and not sitting around doing nothing.

So I talked to Daughter to get her side of the story:

First day of her new job as she is getting ready to go to new job she has bathroom door locked and has Boyfriends cell phone in the bathroom with her seeing that woman texted a message to Boyfriend at 6AM. Boyfriend is banging on bathroom door wanting his phone. Unlocks bathroom door to get his phone she confronts him about woman and uses a lint roller on him in not a good way. He gets her cell phone like he is going to do something with it and she starts fighting with him to get it away and left scratches on him. Goes to her first day of work.

Comes home goes into bedroom locks the door as she just wants to be left alone. He comes home with his Son, unlocks the bedroom door and starts arguing with her again. She tells him to leave her alone she is watching a movie and going to sleep. She does go to sleep and the next thing she knows there are two cops standing at the end of the bed waking her up. Boyfriend has pressed charges shown them the scratches from the morning issue and the police go away and talk for a while my Daughter goes back to sleep when she wakes up again there is a woman police officer with the two male officers telling her to get up they are taking her to jail... (In pajamas I might add)

She had no idea why she was being arrested until they had her in the car and she asked they said for domestic violence. They keep her up all night long in the processing process and release her Wednesday morning. She is out on the street in PJ's, no phone, no money and no way to get home. In the meantime Boyfriend puts a restraining order on her. She bumbs a ride home from a stranger. Gets a few belongings and She has been staying with 3 other women in a house one of the women she had met recently had offered her a place to stay telling her about other roommates. So temporary until she can find her own place.

Sorry this is such a long post, but I am soliciting prayers for this situation. My Daughter and I are both stunned that her Boyfriend would do this to her after an 8 year relationship. I have treated him like a Son and always respectful toward him. My Daughter has been asking him to go to counseling with her for a while now and he has said No. When I last talked to him I said you thought throwing her in jail was a better solution than going to see a counselor who could have helped you all get through this rough patch?

Well the relationship is over as my Daughter is now afraid of him plus he has been cheating on her. Now that he has had a few days to cool off he regret putting her in jail and is wanting her to come back and she said to me - How can I go back when the trust is gone? How do I get past the cheating and if he gets mad at me again will he throw me in jail again?

I am not saying my Daughter is right in attacking him, but he kept pushing her when she wanted to be left alone behind closed locked doors. We get to go to court next week. More than likely it will be dismissed as she has never done anything like this before.

PS: She did not put naked women on kids cell phone or the porn movie in the drawer.... Suspect that kid did it in an effort to not come and stay with his Dad....as Son has done other things to avoid coming over.

Again prayers please....

This has been a Big Example of What Not To Do In A Relationship.
Oh good Lord. I am so sorry to hear this. The depravity of the human heart. Being here 4 months now I have heard some heart breaking stories, but this may be the worst, mostly because of the depths of manipulations and lies he has spun.
Beyond what I just wrote, I am speechless.
God is a God that balances the scales, even if not in the way we want or when. And even if we don't want it. He decides.
For the present immediate situation, I will pray.
 
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Txroads

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God bless and all my prayers
 

JosephsDreams

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LB, yeah, this is a double, maybe triple betrayal. I am usually the one who says give it time and a chance, but this one is just so convoluted. I am still stunned. He cheats on her. He then calls the cops and gets her arrested, and then gets a order of protection. I don't use the evil or wicked much when describing peoples actions, but in this case I will.
 
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psychomom

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As the world turns.
it's the Edge of Night in the Days of our Lives and we need a Guiding Light? :rolleyes:

sorry-- i'll get back to praying. :eek:
 

JesusLives

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Well I wrote the Boyfriend a letter right after I found where Daughter was as I was worried about her. She has been under a lot of stress for the past few months after quitting her job and the Son situation and had started going to counseling for herself and put on anxiety medicine trying to deal with things that had been going on and the Boyfriend knew she was at a low point, but just continued to poke the bear rather than try to take his Son and go to the counseling with her. Part of what stuns me is she was trying to get put back together and it is like he kicked her when she was down.

I wrote a letter to him and this is what I wrote: Note Fake Name (Sam & Daughter), as to protect the not so innocent....

Sam,

Well I'm totally baffled I have to say you shocked me. How could you do this to Daughter? I'm stunned at the viciousness of your attack.

After 7 year (living) together it looks to me as though you threw her under the bus and walked away without a second thought.

I forgive you though because I must and you will never know the hurt you have caused more than one person. We trusted you and you have disappointed me terribly. I trusted you with my Daughter who I love as much or more than you love your Son.

You knew she was going through a tough time but it didn't seem to matter to you. She needed help and understanding and you threw her out telling lies and having her arrested. Then putting a retraining order on her. Left her to fend for herself after getting out of jail with PJ's on, no phone, no money and no car to get home. Actually no place to go.

Did you ever really care? Would you like to walk home in PJ's? Hurt, crying - with no place to go.

I forgive you Sam, because you need it and I'm being sincere. You also need God in your life because you will continue to self destruct without Him in your life. Your life will end up with many harsh realities if you don't change your ways.

I tried to love you as a Son and tried always to treat you with respect. Well what you are doing now is wrong.

Someday as we all will you will have to answer to God for the things you have done. I hope and pray someday you will turn your heart over to Him and allow Him to control your life.

I will pray for you and Son.

You have broken more than one heart. I will continue to love you as a Son. Darlene
 
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ember

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that's really convoluted...so sorry...will pray also
 

blue_ladybug

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Let ME write him a letter. I'll REALLY give him something to think about.. lol ;)
 

JesusLives

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Let ME write him a letter. I'll REALLY give him something to think about.. lol ;)
I also put in a pamphlet on Salvation writing across it Suggested reading for you.... He needs it and so does my Daughter. I guess I shouldn't be too surprised as I have been praying for Salvation for all three/four of them... Daughter, Boyfriend, His Son and Ex-Wife. I asked the Lord to do what ever it takes for Salvation for them.... If they have to separate to be saved then even as painful as it is I am all for it. I put my trust in God to work things out.
 

blue_ladybug

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If he's this much of a dufus, it's highly likely that he'll probably just tear up your letter AND the pamphlet.. :/
 

Tinkerbell725

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Its really so hard to believe and accept how someone who loved you for a long time could be in such a hurry to get rid of you. I bet the new girl has moved in as soon as your daughter was out of the house. Well too bad for the new girl she got involved with a bad man. Same scenario is waiting for her. Your daughter was not perfect but what he did to her is just evil.
 

JesusLives

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If he's this much of a dufus, it's highly likely that he'll probably just tear up your letter AND the pamphlet.. :/
He has called me twice and he feels awful....as he should... I said to him do you really think having her arrested was a better option than going for counseling and trying to work out the problems? He is still trying to justify and lie saying he said he would go one time, but I was with Daughter when she texted him asking - yes or no will you go to counseling? He texted back no.... I told him I was with her when he told her no...

I think he was angry that she called him out on the cheating and he at the time wanted to break up with her and wants the apartment and I think he waited until the day he had his Son telling lies about the porn pictures or he got into her phone and sent them to his Son's phone telling the cops this to make her look bad... She would never do something like that to a 12 year old boy... She has no reason to... Boyfriend saw a way to get her out for good and took it. Now he I remorseful about it calling her, texting wanting to get back together.... She is having none of it. Wants to go to court get it over with and move on. I can't say I blame her....
 

Angela53510

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So sorry to hear your daughter had to go through this. Since they were not married, nor had children, probably leaving us the best alternative. But he should give her some money, for all she has helped him. I hope she has good financial records.

I will also pray, especially for salvation. That would be the beginning of heading in the right direction, regardless of what happens in this bizarre relationship!
 
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sending prayers, especially for the 12year-old, for the evil that his father has done,
he will pay...