When you have sorrow, maybe you want to read this

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Dutch41

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When you are pain.. I hope you wanted to read this.


Yesterday there was an interview with a friend of a person, who killed him self. The boy was 15 years old.. he wasn't pretty. He got a strange mouth.. and glasses. All his life he wasn't accept on his school. It started on the kindergarten and it end on high school. And on the street, boys.. man, girls and woman.. where laughing at him..not because they liked him..But because how he look liked.


So there was for him no other option to kill him self.. Because he was complete alone.


Today I got a praying moment with a girl who remind me at that boy... and that's why I write this.
Because it hurt me.. And that is my reason to write this.

It remind my to my past before I knew Jesus. But it remind me too, what Jesus did for me.


The JPS (Jewish Publication Society)translation said in Isaiah 53:4: Surely our diseases he did bear, and our pains he carried;


Many people are hurting, having pain and are grief. Sometimes is the grief so big, that it feel that it cut your soul in two.

The Hebr word of pain what here is written is Makob (fon)and it mean like physical pain, but it means mental pain too. And I believe that the pain that is written in 53:4 is meaning here mental pain. Although it can mean physical pain too.


Isaiah 53 is pointed at the suffering Messiah who had to come. And who is come in the person of Jesus from Nazareth.


We can see this in the Mattheus 8:16 where is written: [FONT=Tahoma, sans-serif]When the even was come, they brought to him many that were possessed with devils: and he cast out the spirits with his word, and healed all that were sickThat it might be fulfilled which was spoken by Esaias the prophet, saying, Himself took our infirmities, and bore our sicknesses[/FONT]


The meaning of this verse is:
There is healing by Jesus when you have grief!


Because of the fall we got pain and sorrow. We all have to deal with it. But some people more as an other.


Sometimes we can feel us so lonely.. and nobody sees the need in you. Sometimes it can be, that you got a happy smile from outside, but from inside you got such a pain, because you are a victim of sexual violence.. or maybe because your parents are going to divorce.. or maybe your husband or wife got adultery.. Maybe what is happen to you took all your joy for living..



It can be so bad.. that you don't see the need of life. Or that you desire to an other place.. where is peace....


And when you are talking about it.. some people wanted to gave you' good' advise.. But they are talking to much without listening. Or are judging you with the Bible. And finally you got fear to tell people about your need. Because you are afraid that it disturb them. So.. it can happen that you feeling is: I have to fight in my own.
And the truth is: they don't understand you, because it didn't happening to them.


My advise to people who wanted to gave their advise: Please be patient with people who have sorrows. Stay with them, give them your ear.. give them your love..

When I thought about this: I remember the story of Adam and Eve. Everybody know this story. Adam and Eve where lived in a perfect harmony.. But through their own sin, they have leave the Paradise.

When Adam and Eve, were in the paradise. They didn't know pain, sorrow or sickness.
But in Gen 4 we can read a terrible story: Cain hit Abel death.

Till than: Adam and Eve, they had never to do with death. Yes maybe they offering a sheep, or a cow. But not with a relative.. or the death from someone who you loved.

And now I will imagine what Adam and Eve thought when they found Abel. It is not written in the Bible. But I think that they were deeply saddened. That was the deep grief they ever had.

One son was dead, the other son he was the murder. Can you imagine? Ohh I think Adam and Eve cry a lot. Maybe the second time in their live. They remember the time in the Paradise. When everything was good and fine. They thought about their sin. And they knew: If they didn't make that mistake. They lived in peace with God.

They got all the ingredients to have bitter hart. But.. I think they didn't got a bitter hart: Why? Because they look at God!

The third son from Adam and Eve is calling Seth. The name Seth means: Compensation.. In the Dutch translation it mean too a reward.

God gives Adam and Eva a compensation.. Yes they had a grief. I am sure about it. But they know God. He healed the sorrow. God give Adam and Eve hope.

That hope is for you too, in Christ!!
Ps 147:3 say: He healeth the broken in heart, and bindeth up their wounds.
Jer 29:11 say He will give you an expected end.

Please: Don't forget, so I was hurt,before Jesus saved me. And I was full of pain: But the Lord gave my Hope.. His Hope..



Yes, Jesus died for your sin. But not only for your sin. He died for your sickness, and for your sorrow!

There is hope for them who have a lot of pain! Because Jesus, He will make everything new!
 
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calvina

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thanks for the posts.PRAISE ALMIGHTY GOD ! HIS love endures forever..
 
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I was hurting so very much, in my heart and mind, just a few minutes ago...and this helped me remember that even when I don't feel his love, God is still there. He still sent Jesus to take away my pain. Thanks for the reminder. :)
 
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Thank God for you & this post. It brought me to tears. My brother suffers from depression and my bf is going through real tough times. what resonated was that I talk too much and throw the bible at them (for comfort) but I dont listen enough & yes they've kinda shut down. Now I will do them both the service of shuting up and just listening.
 
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artistic_dreams

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oh wow...my daughter is hurting so badly from the attacks of bullying at school....im going to read this to her...ty so much for posting this because she is on the edge ....seriously on the very edge....and i think she could truely use this...blessings to you
 
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Dutch41

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Thank God for you & this post. It brought me to tears. My brother suffers from depression and my bf is going through real tough times. what resonated was that I talk too much and throw the bible at them (for comfort) but I dont listen enough & yes they've kinda shut down. Now I will do them both the service of shuting up and just listening.
We all make sometimes that mistake....because we loved them so much. And it is hard to see your the people who you loved so much, suffering....

God bless them.. And God bless you.. stay in pray... :)

Don't give up... when you see no difference in their behave.
 
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Dutch41

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oh wow...my daughter is hurting so badly from the attacks of bullying at school....im going to read this to her...ty so much for posting this because she is on the edge ....seriously on the very edge....and i think she could truely use this...blessings to you
Terrible artistic.. really terrible... Some times I have no words.. and my hard cry when young people are the victim of bullying. I know... you can say to your daughter.. that she is a Pearl in the hand of the Lord. But.. I know too... when she is on school... the feeling is different.

I want to pray for you and your daughter...
 
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artistic_dreams

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i read this to my daughter and she says thank you so very much...it was what she needed to hear...shes very mature for a 15 yr old...just plz keep her in your prayers...blessings to you
 
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Dutch41

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i read this to my daughter and she says thank you so very much...it was what she needed to hear...shes very mature for a 15 yr old...just plz keep her in your prayers...blessings to you
Thank the Lord that it was a blessed posting..

Maybe if you want to tell the story of your daughter... (you can do that in an other posting) we can pray for her.. but for you and your family too. Because I can imagine that it hurt you very much.

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oh wow...my daughter is hurting so badly from the attacks of bullying at school....im going to read this to her...ty so much for posting this because she is on the edge ....seriously on the very edge....and i think she could truely use this...blessings to you
artistic, my son is also bullied, he's a joy filled christian grade 4 student (he said the other kids get the big kid menace in grade 4 & 5. He's in a 4567 split class rural school, its a wonderful school & we are working hard to resolve this isse. One thing I've told him from the start is that HE is in control. He just needs to give me the word and I will remove him as I dont want him to be a statistic. Seriously I'd rather homeschool than have that. I wrote a letter to the school (4 pages) outlining the bullying & stating that if I have to remove him from the public school system because of their mandate on bullying that protects the bully (no child left behind mandate) and leaves my child in an unsafe environment I will absolutely seek to the school board for the cost associated with going to a christian school environment and furthermore i will be the biggest thorn they've ever seen by media or otherwise to ensure that another child never has to leave their school because of the schools lack of dealing with the bullies. They say 0 bully tollerance but it is just words until we get agressive as parents and in their face and make them stand up for our kids. We are our childrens advocates & protectors & I think empowering my son was a good idea. (that being said, he loves his school, its hours put him home at 2 cause they start early & if he goes to town he'll still have to leave the house at 6:45 & get home at 4:30.) this is motivation to stay for him so if it gets to where he wants to leave I will do everything in my power to make that happen, even home school if i have to. the principal put the bully on 100% supervision every time even says a bad word to a kid & this has seemed to take care of the problem... pretty taxing on the school resources though to have a babysitter for a grade 6 student. Document all of the abuse to your daughter cause as terrible as it seems at the time we do forget. Make sure you keep record & you get in the face of the school. Ask the Lord for the strength, the wisdom & the words. Bless your beautiful daughter & tell her the Lord is her refuge as well and there is power in silent prayer when in persecution.
 
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artistic_dreams

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oh i have become that absolute thorn in their side now....my daughter was assaulted on march 29th and then the very next day i went to the police and filed assault charges....taking it out of the schools hands...it pissed the principal off...i told her i did not care......this all started over a boy these lil girls adored....now they are verbally harassing and taunting..and im being told to wait and let it just die....that they cant make them like my daughter....i told them yes i know this and im not asking them to do so....but they can involve the other parents and have them talk to the kids and make them leave my daughter alone....we go to court on april 20th for the charges...im not backing down....i have gone above the principals head....i have threaten media if they dont start to make it a safe enviroment for my daughter.....these lil girls are vicious....they havent touched her again......but they will make snide remarks and such......shes to the point of self mutilating....she bites herself alot....shes depressed and cant sleep.....shes the kind of child that loves to make friends and she makes them so easily......and right now she feels so alone....im doing all i can...and you bet ur butt im vicious when it comes to defending her....i will get a lawyer and go to the school board .....i dont feel they are protecting her and such....thinking about looking into civil rights and such....but not sure if any have been violated.....and i have no hesitation at all to call every darn media source in the nation and expose them if im pushed far enough....lol.......they have left her alone for the past 2 days....so maybe we see whats going to happen....shes going to the school dance tonight..pray i goes well...blessings to you all.....
 
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GODCHILD1

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thanks so much for this post, I am truly going throw! seems like the closer I walk with the lord, the devil is right there, attacking me, please pray for me to make the devil leave me alone! I truly understand why some people give up, u truly have to be strong in lord, this is a big test! God bless you all and stay strong in the lord! much love
 
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Greater is He who is in you than he who pursues you Godchild, never forget this. GET BEHIND ME satan. quite often these are words I need to utter in Jesus name.
 
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HumbleSaint

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That was in inspiring post. I often feel sorry for people who are rejected because of something that may be wrong with them. I remember when I went to school. It was a Christian school(even though I often wander how many were acctualy Christian), and there was a boy that went there that was a little simple. And it seemed like he got made fun of and people were realy hard on him.

People like this makes me think of that story that Jesus told in Matthew 25 were Jesus had visited them different times through people in need and they rejected him and then Jesus said,"..........Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. Matthew 25:45
 
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Dutch41

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oh i have become that absolute thorn in their side now....my daughter was assaulted on march 29th and then the very next day i went to the police and filed assault charges....taking it out of the schools hands...it pissed the principal off...i told her i did not care......this all started over a boy these lil girls adored....now they are verbally harassing and taunting..and im being told to wait and let it just die....that they cant make them like my daughter....i told them yes i know this and im not asking them to do so....but they can involve the other parents and have them talk to the kids and make them leave my daughter alone....we go to court on april 20th for the charges...im not backing down....i have gone above the principals head....i have threaten media if they dont start to make it a safe enviroment for my daughter.....these lil girls are vicious....they havent touched her again......but they will make snide remarks and such......shes to the point of self mutilating....she bites herself alot....shes depressed and cant sleep.....shes the kind of child that loves to make friends and she makes them so easily......and right now she feels so alone....im doing all i can...and you bet ur butt im vicious when it comes to defending her....i will get a lawyer and go to the school board .....i dont feel they are protecting her and such....thinking about looking into civil rights and such....but not sure if any have been violated.....and i have no hesitation at all to call every darn media source in the nation and expose them if im pushed far enough....lol.......they have left her alone for the past 2 days....so maybe we see whats going to happen....shes going to the school dance tonight..pray i goes well...blessings to you all.....

I hope everything was going well at the school dance? I hope she really enjoyed it.
 
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psalmist4the1

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Thanks you so much for this. Been really hard time of late. Very encouraging. ;-)
 

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Hi Dutch, this is the first I have read this.. thank you

I love this part:

"My advise to people who wanted to gave their advise: Please be patient with people who have sorrows. Stay with them, give them your ear.. give them your love.."

Phil
 
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Dutch41

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Hi Dutch, this is the first I have read this.. thank you

I love this part:

"My advise to people who wanted to gave their advise: Please be patient with people who have sorrows. Stay with them, give them your ear.. give them your love.."

Phil
I only can say to this Amen