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landrews235

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I am in need of serious advice. I am married to a man who is controlling. I have done a lot to try to curb this and tell him it hurts me. I have posted here a long time ago, but unfortunately I couldn't find my email/username. So, I have a new one.

So, my husband has recently agreed to go to a therapist. But, it’s constant attack from him. He says that he can't WAIT for this therapist to intervene and tell me how wrong I am and how ungrateful I am.....We are married and he wants to control all the finances. I have been reluctant to give him every dime I make, and we are extremely tight on money as we prepare to have more lawyer bills in my custody fight for my son....and it INFURiATES him that I won’t give up all my money.

It is possible that I’m unfair, but I am very nervous because he will use every dime and then some. I have a 10 year old son I share custody on — with an ex who is out for every dime he can get. I just recently agreed to split 600 dollar monthly tuition for our son. (300 for me) He says that since we are so tight on money (HE is losing his job) that he will not be allowing any of our money to go things like sports or uniforms for him... when he’s in a position where he may have to borrow money from his father.

the back story here -- I'm in a custody fight because my husband is now facing felony charges for aggravated assault. He and I were fighting at our house and I wanted to leave the house. I had a purse in my hands and he started yanking it - and pulling it. I told him to stop - that it hurt -- and he didn't. the bag broke and my hand was broken and required surgery. The doctor called police out of doubt over how it happened. After a few months of waiting, they arrested him for a felony. He has now lost his job because of it and my ex took it and ran with it. He asked that he get full custody of our son because of unsafe conditions. So, because of my husband's situation - I am possibly losing my child... My husband says it's all because of my ex and this was all an accident. He did't INTEND to hurt me -- the bag broke and it was an accident. He believes the charges will be dismissed, but the district attorney has told me otherwise - at least for the time being.

In addition, this past week, I was at work in a meeting. He was upset because I wasn’t responding to texts. I was on my laptop and I emailed him and told him I was in a meeting with my direct boss. I asked him if everything was okay. He said “no” “call me now”. I said I was in a meeting and I could not. He said “CALL ME NOW” I made an excuse to my bosses and said I had to use the restroom. I called him to hear the “emergency”. He was calling to tell me that his boss called him in and said he was still going to get paid for 3 more months, but he was not to come back to work. He was done with them.. I told him I was very sorry to hear that, but I had to go back into my meeting. There was nothing NEW here other than he gets more of a PAID vacation than having to work through the end of his term with his employer.

He was very upset with me and said that I “annoy him” and that I “infuriate him” and that I “have a major problem”.


I am extremely volatile and upset. Is there a better way for me to handle him? He says that he sees a lot clearer these days and when I react to anything he says …. like “I see” or “I understand”….that I am a "passive aggressive victim” who likes to cause trouble for him.

Tonight, he told me that he has lost his job and the love and attention of his children (he has 3 (ages 15 to 21) because of me. He says that he has spent so much time with me and my child.... that he let his career and his kids down. I have told him a MILLION times that he shouldn't call in sick to work or avoid his kids to come with me and my son...but he does. And now, he's fired for it and his kids ignore his requests to see him. His daughter won't even respond to MY calls, texts or invitations to see her. He says that's because we don't spend any time with them. I said HOW can I spent time with her when she won't even respond to my invites??

He then lashed out and said so NOW you want to spend the weekends you have your son -- with him and me with my kids? He said "our relationship is so broken and damaged -- how do you expect this to work ever if we do it this way?"

is any of this typical? My parents don’t have any idea about how upset I am…and I really want to get a clear head. I truly agree that I am not perfect. But, I don’t believe I am this horrible person he paints me to be...
 
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tourist

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I don't recall your former screen name but I remember your story. Your husband has violent tendencies and he takes it out all on you. You will never have peace of mind as long as you enable him to control every aspect of your life. It is time for you to move forward with your life. All of this drama is going to destroy you unless there are positive changes in your life. My prayers are with you. Welcome back to CC.
 

blue_ladybug

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I remember your posts from before. Sounds like you're in more of a mess now, than you were back then. Your husband is a control freak, he is greedy, he is selfish, AND he may be going to prison. I suggest you open a secret checking/ savings account of your own so you can save up some money for a divorce attorney, among other things. This "marriage" is NOT going to ever get better, because he sounds like he doesn't want to change, and he blames YOU for everything.. God CANNOT change him UNLESS he WANTS to be changed. Hopefully he will go to prison, and get straightened out while in there. And during the interim, you and your son can get back to some semblance of a "normal" life.. You both deserve better than what this guy is putting you through, and believe me, it's gonna mess up your son even more than he probably already is.. :(

Hubby is the one with the majority of the problems and he's taking it out on you and your son. Get out of there before you suffer any more fall-out from his irresponsible actions..
 

landrews235

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He says it was an accident and that I am So WRONG to blame him for this. I never essentially BLAMED him and I actually didn't say too much after my surgeries - but then about 2 weeks later he was mad that I hadn't given him my last paycheck and said that if I didn't hand it over he would make sure that "I" had to pay for my medical bills (not insurance covered because it was under investigation)....out of my OWN money! When he said that -- I knew -- his remorse was very limited. He just wants to control me and will use whatever he can to do so.

What I don't understand is WHY I can't get the strength to leave? I did leave him for a week after his arrest and he begged and pleaded for me to come back...that we could make it work. I went back because I was lonely -- and of course my ex found out and went crazy!

I know parts of my husband are amazing. He takes care of me in many ways -- but now -- it's constant fights over the fact that I won't hand over all my paychecks. For example, before his arrest and my leaving - I paid 2k for a training program to help my job/career. It should have been covered by my employer -- but it wasn't and I was willing to risk that. It was for my improvement.

He told me he was going to SUE ME for that money and notify my employer that they owed HIM the money because it was out of HIS account. It was out of OUR ACCOUNT, but he says i had no right to use that money like that -- even though I make 70 percent of what he makes! I make great money and I wanted to use money to improve myself. Now he says I owe him over 20k (15k to help with his criminal lawyer fees and for that employment training).

And the crazy thing is the argument usually ends up with me angry but secretly understanding his viewpoint. I need to realize it's not fair.
 

blue_ladybug

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The man is greedy, pure and simple. He is also a control freak who feels he MUST be in control of you at all times. The money YOU earn is YOURS. Don't even think of paying his criminal lawyer fees and whatever!! He makes money too, so let HIM pay to get out of HIS legal problems. I still think opening a secret savings and/or checking account would be a good idea. Then he cannot touch YOUR money. Please stop enabling him, and leave him once and for all. By staying, giving in to him and agreeing with him, you are enabling him. And you're right, it's NOT fair that he treats you like this..
 
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Rosesrock

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Do you have a pastor you can talk to? Honestly I biblically can't suggest anything that will help because I don't know all the facts or whole story. Its easy to advise on a knee-jerk reaction and be angry at your husband. But if we're all honest there are many layers to this situation. First. Get safe with your child. Second find wise counsel that can get to the root issues of what's happening. Praying for you.
 

santuzza

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My advice: leave him and get a legal separation. You are not in a safe place right now. Do whatever you have to do, but you need to get out.

Continue to go to therapy -- even if he won't go.

Are you in any relationship with God? Have you accepted Christ as your Savior? If not, that is your first order of business. Get your spiritual life in order and God will assist you with the rest.
 

landrews235

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I was fairly close to God after I divorced but honestly I feel very distant right now. My head is swirling. I feel love and hate from my husband. I get so mad at him and angry that he could say such horrible things.

The other thing is I am drinking about 4 glasses of wine a day and he tells me he thinks I'm an alcoholic. It keeps me quieter and able to cope with his constant demands and insults.

Do you think that much is indicative of an alcoholic. It makes me so mad when he accuses me of yet another fault.
 
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Karraster

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H Landrews, do you know the "Serenity Prayer"? The Serenity Prayer


God grant me the serenity
To accept the things I cannot change;
Courage to change the things I can;
And wisdom to know the difference.


You, like all of us, have room for improvement. We cannot improve others, only ourselves. With God's help we can overcome. When we conduct ourselves to the best of our ability, carefully judging ourselves by the Word, changes must happen continually. In turn, others around us are touched/influenced in a more positive way.

Children grow up so fast. We don't get a second chance to raise them. Looking back, I pray you won't have missed out on that due to all the grown-up drama, my but they do grow up fast. Best regards, hope things improve for you and all concerned.
 
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Miri

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Hate to sound like a broken record, but various people gave you all sorts of
helpful advice and opinions last time, including that you could do with
putting yourself and your son first and walking out on this situation.

You mentioned last time that your husband was emotionally abusing your
son and making him piggy in the middle. To be honest your ex husband is probably
right to be concerned, at least he is putting your son first even if no one else is.
Sorry if that sounds awful but it's the truth, I'm just saying this because
of you continue to live with your abusive husband and do not walk away, then
you could lose your son to your ex husband.

You really need to distance yourself from your second husband. It sounds like
the only reason he is getting counselling is to put you down and try to show everyone
how wrong you are, he is not doing counselling for the right reasons.

He does does not care about you, his only concern is his
reputation and the worry that his abuse of you will mean a criminal record.
He is hoping to turn up in court and say he is getting counselling and that as
as result everyone will be lenient.

You really need to separate from him for some time, live somewhere else and
let him get on with things on his own. If after a passage of time he does seek
God and is repentant and there is a real tangible difference in him and he
actually gets the proper counselling he needs for his anger and controlling
nature. Then maybe there might be a chance at reconciliation.

If nothing changes though then you will need to look at calling it a day on this
marriage.

From what I remember last time, you said you have a good job but he insists
you give him all your money, even though he had a good job as well.

Walk away, no run away before he hurts you and your son any more and
before your son gets taken from you.

Even if you don't have the confidence to do it for yourself, then do it for
your son. Otherwise at best your son is going to grow up anxious, worried,
find it hard to have relationships in case the same thing happens to him.
At worse he child grow up controlling, angry and abusive because he has seen
it in your marriage.

That's assuming your ex doesn't get custody first.

I will be praying for you but I wont be posting anything else on
here. I can't think of any other advice to give you based on your last thread
and this one.

I just pray God open's your eyes before he harms you or your son any more
either physically or emotionally.
 
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HisHolly

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What does Scripture say?? If you listen to advice saying do for yourself, you will be accountable.. Ask God not these people.. You pay your price for listening to them not them.. You and him are one. Nothing is just yours.. If you don't care to haveGod involved then I guess follow who you want.. If Crist is your King you better follow His words..
 

landrews235

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Thank you for your prayers and kind insight.

I agree that I don't believe he will change unless he wants to. And the way he talks to me about this anger management course he is taking online -- he is telling me it's all ME -- and I am the problem.

And that I push his buttons etc. For example, we had a horrible argument yesterday. This is how it went. We had to leave the house because there was a showing. (It is for sale). He asked where I wanted to go? I said, whereever you like..we can drive around or coffee shop...whatever you prefer. He said "I don't know -- you decide." I said, truthfully, I don't care. Just drive ....or something. Up to you. He said this isn't my city (we were in my son's hometown which is 2 hours from HIS (OUR) house/town). But, we are here a lot. He drives the city at least 2 times a week -- and it's been that way for over a year.

I said, please just drive. He said "we can't even go for a drive without an argument!" I said, I'm not arguing...I'm saying do whatever you prefer! I have no preference. Then, he said I was playing a "sick game" and that I can't even tell him what I want to do on a simple drive ...how do I expect our marriage to work?

He then went into "I don't have ANYTHING IN THIS TOWN". I said "you don't???" He said no! I said, "well you have a STEP SON!!!" He said "you always have to find something negative in what I say....you are sick and a master manipulator."

I started crying and he said that it was even "more manipulation...and that I really should get reality straight and realize what a problem I am...."

He went on and said that our lives are totally out of sync and that I have no intention of working out with him in the afternoon ( I prefer the morning) and that we are so "damaged and BROKEN that he doesn't know how my spending time alone with my son in his town will ever lead to repair of our relationship.."


I told him I was "done! DONE!" I am sick and tired of hearing him tell me we are done and broken etc.... EVERY DAY!

he never apologized for any of this... he just said that this anger management course is teaching him the problems in my reactions and he will keep those to himself and he can't wait to tell a therapist what a problem I am ....and how I cause all of this..


DOES THIS SOUND NORMAL AT ALL?????

PS I Should also say that we were not married in a church. we are only common law marriage. So, biblically we are not married.
 

blue_ladybug

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IMO, the "master manipulator" in this equation is HIM. HE is the one who starts instigating, HE starts the arguments. He wants control at any cost, even if it ruins his family. You don't need to be married in a church to be biblically married. As long as a priest or somebody performs the ceremony, you take vows and have a marriage license, then you are married in God's eyes. It's plain to see that he doesn't care about your OR your son, OR your marriage.. The longer you stay in this farce of a marriage, the worse it's going to get for you.. You say you're done with this malarkey, good for you. Now prove it and file papers and get away from this guy. You and your son will be much better off. God ALWAYS uses divorce to bring something better into your life. :)
 

JesusLives

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I could be wrong but I believe when you posted before you were just engaged to this guy wondering if you should marry him. We advised you not to do it for your own safety the sake of your son... While corresponding with us this man broke your hand and it appears you went ahead against advise not to marry him and did it anyway...

You are surprised that you are continuing to have problems with your now controlling husband? This situation only gets worse and will not get better unless everyone surrenders to God.... Your husband probably doesn't want to go to counseling and your poor son is witness to the controlling mess you have willingly put yourself into...

Prayers for you and your family... You wouldn't take our advise before so I have no disillusion that you will take it now.
 

blue_ladybug

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I could be wrong but I believe when you posted before you were just engaged to this guy wondering if you should marry him. We advised you not to do it for your own safety the sake of your son... While corresponding with us this man broke your hand and it appears you went ahead against advise not to marry him and did it anyway...

You are surprised that you are continuing to have problems with your now controlling husband? This situation only gets worse and will not get better unless everyone surrenders to God.... Your husband probably doesn't want to go to counseling and your poor son is witness to the controlling mess you have willingly put yourself into...

Prayers for you and your family... You wouldn't take our advise before so I have no disillusion that you will take it now.
No Darlene, that was someone else. I remember her too. She disappeared around Christmas, and hasn't been back since. Sure hope her psycho ex didn't kill her. :(
 

JesusLives

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Story sounds the same just went from fiancé to husband.... Pulling a bag hurt hand needing surgery and a young son....sounds very familiar....
 

landrews235

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We were never married formally. It was simply what's called common law marriage. It was never by a priest or an officiant. It was simply on paper.

So, I just need to get the guts and leave him again. It is so hard.



QUOTE=JesusLives;2628717]Story sounds the same just went from fiancé to husband.... Pulling a bag hurt hand needing surgery and a young son....sounds very familiar....[/QUOTE]
 

blue_ladybug

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We were never married formally. It was simply what's called common law marriage. It was never by a priest or an officiant. It was simply on paper.

So, I just need to get the guts and leave him again. It is so hard.


It should be easy to leave him once and for all. You're NOT married, so you're free and clear to leave without having to divide up assets. He treats you like crap, like a door mat. Say enough already, and make your move..
 

landrews235

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Today, news of my my husband's felony arrest made the newspaper. And it talked about me being the victim. Again he broke my finger (3 screws in my hand) when yanking my make up bag out of my hand during argument while I was trying to leave.

This was very sad because in the comment section people started saying I was a gold digger. Their assumption because he was a doctor. But I have a very good job myself!!! I was a well known news anchor.

When his 20 year old daughter saw it she began posting non stop. She called her dad a "hero" for giving me a house, food and support". I'm not a flipping puppy!

I was horrified. Then her boyfriend got on there and said that I was a liar and a fraud and a scam artist. HORRIBLE.

I demanded he call them and tell them to retract. He said he didn't want to bother her at work. He eventually texted her and told her to edit it. Her boyfriend did too but commented "free speech. Deal with it *****"

I almost left the house. I tried. But he begged me not to. And within an hour he was telling me I must sign a waiver that swears I won't prosecute. So his lawyer can get the case dropped. I haven't yet.

I have to testify against him Thursday IF I get the guts. That means I have to leave him.

He says I need to understand his daughter is just protecting her daddy. And get a grip.

Should I be more understanding????
 

JGIG

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Today, news of my my husband's felony arrest made the newspaper. And it talked about me being the victim. Again he broke my finger (3 screws in my hand) when yanking my make up bag out of my hand during argument while I was trying to leave.

This was very sad because in the comment section people started saying I was a gold digger. Their assumption because he was a doctor. But I have a very good job myself!!! I was a well known news anchor.

When his 20 year old daughter saw it she began posting non stop. She called her dad a "hero" for giving me a house, food and support". I'm not a flipping puppy!

I was horrified. Then her boyfriend got on there and said that I was a liar and a fraud and a scam artist. HORRIBLE.

I demanded he call them and tell them to retract. He said he didn't want to bother her at work. He eventually texted her and told her to edit it. Her boyfriend did too but commented "free speech. Deal with it *****"

I almost left the house. I tried. But he begged me not to. And within an hour he was telling me I must sign a waiver that swears I won't prosecute. So his lawyer can get the case dropped. I haven't yet.

I have to testify against him Thursday IF I get the guts. That means I have to leave him.

He says I need to understand his daughter is just protecting her daddy. And get a grip.

Should I be more understanding????

I don't mean to be flippant, but what are the three screws in your hand telling you?

Also consider that your son is being taught how to treat women by the man you've chosen.

And you have chosen . . . but you are not stuck. You do have the choice to leave, and you should if you're not safe (rhetorically stated).

If you had a friend in your situation, what would you encourage her to do?

I had a friend who I worked with years ago who was in an abusive relationship for years. I and others encouraged her to leave him, and on more than one occasion I was called in the wee hours to rescue her and her daughter (from a previous marriage) from bad situations. Still, she went on to have SEVERAL children with this man before finally leaving him.

She was a dear friend (we lost touch over the years after I left the company we both worked for), but I learned that she thrived on the stress and the drama. The highs, the lows, always having a story to tell . . .

Please don't be that woman. She put herself and her children through YEARS of abuse and dysfunction unnecessarily.

If you can't leave for yourself, leave for your son.

Grace, peace, and prayers,
JGIG