Husband is in marriage only for the kids

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azlightsout

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I don't even know where to start. We've been married for 12 years. Which most of it has been me trying to talk him into staying and trying to fix things. I'm tired of trying to fix everything. I feel so lost. We've been to counseling, I've read books, I've done the love dare and still it seems like no matter what things will be good for a while then something will happen that will spark him being mad and he will tell me he's only in this marriage for our children. In the past I have always just swept things under the rug and tried to move on because I love him and I'm not willing to get a divorce but for some reason I'm just tired of dealing with jeckyl and Hyde. Our sex life doesn't exist and I feel a million miles away from him. I try to talk to him about how I'm feeling and all he tells me is if I don't like it I can move out. Most holidays or special occasions something happens and the event is ruined by him being mad at me over something. I feel like a fool for letting this go in for so long. He's an amazing man, loves our children so much. He has an amazing work ethic. He's an amazing provider. But someone's always doing something that upsets him or I'm not backing him up. He feels like he has a wife that doesn't support him. I feel like I've failed in the wife department. We haven't been going to church for the past 1-1/2-2 years. I'm tired of being the one to get everyone to go. My kids need it and whenever I go I feel so blessed afterwards. I just wish he would take the lead on it and take his family to church not because I mentioned it to him all week or because I asked him a million times to go. I haven't talked to anyone about this and I hope I haven't confused anyone. Feels good to finally get it off my chest. I think I might write him a letter because I can get my words across a lot better that way. I need advice and prayer.
All i see is "I" "I" "I" .... where is the we , the us????
 
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Why not just gather the kids and go?

That's what i did for years before God moved my husband to go with us.He was on shift work and worked most Sundays and the ones he wasn't working he would rather watch tv until God reacted out to him.

I don't think nagging him all week to get him to agree to go is the answer.

*Better to live in a desertthan with a quarrelsome and nagging wife. - Proverbs 21:19 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs21:19&version=NIV

Sounds like you both need marriage counseling and to talk out situations with a good Christian counsellor. Maybe learn how God tells us to handle situations. Find out the root of anger. Learn how to show your support and talk through disagreements without anger.

Often relationship issues are due to lack of communication.

Maybe a date night or something?

Also maybe he is like most guys and don't like to talk it out?

What is his love language? What is yours?
I discovered that even counsellors will leave one side or the other feeling as tho they are left out in the cold...and one spouse is usually sitting there to "help" the other get better. Getting better is about working on yourself. I've found that most people are both incapable and unwilling to start with themselves. Such is the world we live in....

the fact is that love can feel pretty unsafe unless you get yours from the real true source of it.
 
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I discovered that even counsellors will leave one side or the other feeling as tho they are left out in the cold...and one spouse is usually sitting there to "help" the other get better. Getting better is about working on yourself. I've found that most people are both incapable and unwilling to start with themselves. Such is the world we live in....

the fact is that love can feel pretty unsafe unless you get yours from the real true source of it.
I was suggesting separate counseling by different counselors to learn to better communicate and cope.

Not sure if joint counseling will work until they deal with their own personal issues first.

When we learn how much God loves us, we are better able to love others and help each other heal.
 
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Why not just gather the kids and go?

That's what i did for years before God moved my husband to go with us.He was on shift work and worked most Sundays and the ones he wasn't working he would rather watch tv until God reacted out to him.

I don't think nagging him all week to get him to agree to go is the answer.

*Better to live in a desertthan with a quarrelsome and nagging wife. - Proverbs 21:19 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs21:19&version=NIV

Sounds like you both need marriage counseling and to talk out situations with a good Christian counsellor. Maybe learn how God tells us to handle situations. Find out the root of anger. Learn how to show your support and talk through disagreements without anger.

Often relationship issues are due to lack of communication.

Maybe a date night or something?

Also maybe he is like most guys and don't like to talk it out?

What is his love language? What is yours?
Yes just focus on what you need to do, not he. Maybe he can't even lead. Maybe he's autistic or something. Or you take the lead and have to let go. I don't know. If he never wants sex and doesn't have affairs I'd think he's either autistic or a porn addict or it doesn't function anymore.
My ex didn't want sex for 3 years. Turned out later he had physical problems but was too proud to admit. It was my fault. I was such a controlling b*** and monstrously ugly, that's why he couldn't have sex. Oh yes and he didn't love me anymore for years. Sometimes they just lie.
Later after the divorce when we talked things out and said sorry, he said he had felt rejected because I was so busy with the kids and I felt rejected, because of how he treated me, he lived upstairs, I lived downstairs and he chatted with some stupid blonde American who understood him.
This whole marriage could simply have been healed if I would have refused to feel rejected and react and had just kept on praying day in day out. The devil wants to destroy marriages.
The wife of Smith Wigglesworth, he didn't follow God anymore or go to church and was nasty to her. She just kept on serving him and God. He didn't want her to go to church. She just friendly fixed his breakfast and went.
If one doesn't want to, but doesn't leave and the other lays his/ her life down, he'll either go serve God too or he can't stand the atmosphere anymore and will go.
 
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Yes just focus on what you need to do, not he. Maybe he can't even lead. Maybe he's autistic or something. Or you take the lead and have to let go. I don't know. If he never wants sex and doesn't have affairs I'd think he's either autistic or a porn addict or it doesn't function anymore.
My ex didn't want sex for 3 years. Turned out later he had physical problems but was too proud to admit. It was my fault. I was such a controlling b*** and monstrously ugly, that's why he couldn't have sex. Oh yes and he didn't love me anymore for years. Sometimes they just lie.
Later after the divorce when we talked things out and said sorry, he said he had felt rejected because I was so busy with the kids and I felt rejected, because of how he treated me, he lived upstairs, I lived downstairs and he chatted with some stupid blonde American who understood him.
This whole marriage could simply have been healed if I would have refused to feel rejected and react and had just kept on praying day in day out. The devil wants to destroy marriages.
The wife of Smith Wigglesworth, he didn't follow God anymore or go to church and was nasty to her. She just kept on serving him and God. He didn't want her to go to church. She just friendly fixed his breakfast and went.
If one doesn't want to, but doesn't leave and the other lays his/ her life down, he'll either go serve God too or he can't stand the atmosphere anymore and will go.
the thing about feelings is they are all valid and you don't have control over whether you feel them. Acknowledging them is the first step in speaking truth to them and speaking truth to them is big factor in not sinning against others out of them.
 
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the thing about feelings is they are all valid and you don't have control over whether you feel them. Acknowledging them is the first step in speaking truth to them and speaking truth to them is big factor in not sinning against others out of them.
Yes you can talk about your feelings, but if he doesn't care, just forgive, fix on God and let Him heal you. You have to do it some day anyway. Why wait 'til you're divorced?
 
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If God told you that you weren't worth it it would be devastating.. Advice to give up comes from quitters who don't value anyone. Go to God. Only He knows your husband well enough to tell you what he needs.
People have different love languages.
I don't want to loose the people in my life.. I don't care to have pride when it comes to loving them how they need it, not what I think they should get..
Some people are door mats and others think they are.
If you love him, take the example of Christ and serve him in truth guided by the Holy spirit..
If he's unwilling it is biblical to separate.
I pray the best happens and no one jumps the gun and ruins something that could have been salvaged...
Bad advice is bad advice.. some people should be muzzled for speaking against a marriage.. If God brought them together who is anyone to exalt themselves to say you deserve better, leave him..
Don't be Satan's tool people!!!
And dear don't let the enemy steal from you..
I'm not here for brownie points.. Advice should be corrected on here if its terrible...
I do not know anyone nor am against any one person but I despise advice that sows destruction..
 

notuptome

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Until and unless he develops or restores his relationship with Christ there can be no peace and marital bliss. The man must be a man and a man before the Lord.

As long as he remains distant from the Lord he is vulnerable to satan.

1Pe 5:8 Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour:

For the cause of Christ
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I discovered that even counsellors will leave one side or the other feeling as tho they are left out in the cold...and one spouse is usually sitting there to "help" the other get better. Getting better is about working on yourself. I've found that most people are both incapable and unwilling to start with themselves. Such is the world we live in....

the fact is that love can feel pretty unsafe unless you get yours from the real true source of it.
Baton Rouge, church of Larry Stockstill had real good marriage group counselling. Toronto Airport too. Was expensive though. We couldn't pay it anymore the last time and noone was willing to help, unless we paid a few thousands we didn't have.
 
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Baton Rouge, church of Larry Stockstill had real good marriage group counselling. Toronto Airport too. Was expensive though. We couldn't pay it anymore the last time and noone was willing to help, unless we paid a few thousands we didn't have.
Ultimately it's about the two people that need counseling than it is about any counselor. Life is confusing, and when fires are raging all around you and inside of you most just pour more gasoline on them.
 
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Ultimately it's about the two people that need counseling than it is about any counselor. Life is confusing, and when fires are raging all around you and inside of you most just pour more gasoline on them.
It was really helpful. We had a great marriage for years after we went to Toronto for counselling until the bomb exploded later. It was an elderly couple who would very sweetly explain the most simple things. They didn't pick sides. They prayed for inner healing. Now repeat after me, will you forgive me for.... and we got God on the first place. We prayed every morning. Once we stopped doing that it didn't take long before it all exploded.
 
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I'm pretty certain that a person doesn't get what they pray for but that which they justly earn.
 
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I'm pretty certain that a person doesn't get what they pray for but that which they justly earn.
What you earn? I earned nothing.
I mean we were focused on God and the harvest, praying for souls, instead of: me, me, me, I want this, you don't do that, I feel rejected etc. We had God first. It's warfare. We were saving people and the worst marriages got healed up. People got healed and set free. The devil thought: you know what? I'm gonna destroy that marriage and that ministry and we helped him do it.
 
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What you earn? I earned nothing.
I mean we were focused on God and the harvest, praying for souls, instead of: me, me, me, I want this, you don't do that, I feel rejected etc. We had God first. It's warfare. We were saving people and the worst marriages got healed up. People got healed and set free. The devil thought: you know what? I'm gonna destroy that marriage and that ministry and we helped him do it.
I agree. The enemy with change tactics of his first attacks aren't working. Again you can't make someone stay.
 
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I don't blame the devil for my failed marriages nor do I blame God. I was responsible for much of it. Never been a fan of the whole I'm under attack from the devil thing. Maybe that is some of it but God isn't gonna listen to that excuse....so why should we even think it?
 
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I don't blame the devil for my failed marriages nor do I blame God. I was responsible for much of it. Never been a fan of the whole I'm under attack from the devil thing. Maybe that is some of it but God isn't gonna listen to that excuse....so why should we even think it?
It's not an excuse. I say we helped him. Who else did he use but mainly us? If I had been smart I would have seen it and stopped him instead of blaming my ex and getting hurt and taking offense.
Look at me now. I almost fell from my faith. I see my kids half of the week and am sitting here with three rabbits. They're fun, but if I had known all that I would have done a lot more effort to stand firm and fight the devil instead of my ex.
 
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I don't blame the devil for my failed marriages nor do I blame God. I was responsible for much of it. Never been a fan of the whole I'm under attack from the devil thing. Maybe that is some of it but God isn't gonna listen to that excuse....so why should we even think it?
So why are we supposed to arm ourselves from attacks??

Eph 6:10-20

[FONT=&quot]10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

And Yes I agree "the devil made me do it" isn't an excuse. We choose to do what we do.
But can we agree that we're not fighting one other....we are in a spiritual battle personally.

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BeyondET

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Been down that road. It's a tough one to recover from once there is so much damage. Like I said, you both need to get good at processing your own pain and being a siphon for each others pain. The reality is that the only thing that can be fixed is yourself.

And if I might add, when you go the divorce route it infinitely complicates things even more.
though I've never been down that marriage road, you got some sound advice brother :)
 
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NewWine

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Let's say, your husband turns to God, focuses all his time and energy on God, and through that he becomes the husband you need/want. He apologizes for all the times he was a butt, and everything in your married life becomes a big chewy piece of dream pie.......will that solve ALL of your problems?

You can't change him. All you can do is focus your OWN heart on God, and let God guide you through this mess that the two of you created. Find all your worth in God, and watch your life change into....if nothing better.....into a joyful mess. God can make you so joyful, you become contagious, infectious or a trend setter, making everyone around you more joyful. Spreading God's love...God IS love after all.....will change lives, yours, your children's through you, your coworkers', your neighbors' and even your husband's.
Is it simple? You betcha! Is it easy? Rarely!
Peace!!

Isaiah 40:31
 
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kris78

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We have gone to Christian marriage counseling with 2 separate counsellors over the years. The reason I even mentioned the D word is because I don't know what else to do. At this point God has to intervene this. I have done everything I can think of to fix it. When I ask him to talk about our situation he tells me he's done trying and hasn't been for a while. When we went to go to counseling one of the promises was that he wouldn't threaten to leave anymore. I've gotten so used to hearing it that I walk on egg shells wondering if I'm going to upset him enough for another round and for him to throw the D word out there again. It's not what I want. We have everything to be thankful for. Life in my eyes is pretty great except for the fact that he is turned off. So at this point I am thinking I can be an example to him. Push threw go to our church. Be surrounded around church family. Feed he boys what they need. And hopefully he will want what we have. Only God knows. Thanks all for caring. Nice to have a place to vent.