Husband is in marriage only for the kids

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kris78

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Yes I would feel like I would have it all and won the lottery.
 
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BeyondET

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We have gone to Christian marriage counseling with 2 separate counsellors over the years. The reason I even mentioned the D word is because I don't know what else to do. At this point God has to intervene this. I have done everything I can think of to fix it. When I ask him to talk about our situation he tells me he's done trying and hasn't been for a while. When we went to go to counseling one of the promises was that he wouldn't threaten to leave anymore. I've gotten so used to hearing it that I walk on egg shells wondering if I'm going to upset him enough for another round and for him to throw the D word out there again. It's not what I want. We have everything to be thankful for. Life in my eyes is pretty great except for the fact that he is turned off. So at this point I am thinking I can be an example to him. Push threw go to our church. Be surrounded around church family. Feed he boys what they need. And hopefully he will want what we have. Only God knows. Thanks all for caring. Nice to have a place to vent.
A separation for awhile that's not the same as divorce and may be hard depending on a lot of things of coarse. But some tuff love Has its place also give him time to think about it and what does the marriage really mean to him.
 
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A separation for awhile that's not the same as divorce and may be hard depending on a lot of things of coarse. But some tuff love Has its place also give him time to think about it and what does the marriage really mean to him.
If you want someone to run off with someone else you should seperate. Seen it time after time.
 
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So why are we supposed to arm ourselves from attacks??

Eph 6:10-20

10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
17 And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God:

And Yes I agree "the devil made me do it" isn't an excuse. We choose to do what we do.
But can we agree that we're not fighting one other....we are in a spiritual battle personally.

It's called a vacuum. And it will fill up with something. Sin has more to do with our own desires than it does to being attacked by satan.


but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed
 
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BeyondET

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If you want someone to run off with someone else you should seperate. Seen it time after time.
Well that would be a clue they weren't interested, surely if separation leads to a person running off with someone else it wasn't meant to be. Because no marriage or separation will stop a person from doing that if they are going to do that they will. Sadly it does happen more and more for people are pushing the value of a relationship to the back burner.
 

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I've have tried to sit down a nd get him to talk to me about what he wants to do to fix it and he says that we can't afford to get divorced so he's just in it for the kids. I feel like and idiot. He doesn't even act like he likes me let alone loves me. I feel like it's always me trying to talk him into staying. Deep down I want to stay married but part of me is so tired of the games and the way he makes me feel about myself. Anyone else out there dealing with anything similar?
I know someone going through this, but they aren't married and have Children and he's a different religion. So that's a big mess, but it sounds to me like you've done what you can. You need to see a counselor on your own to decide what you want to do. You'll feel somewhat better once you make that choice. You don't have to live like this, you deserve better. Will pray for you.
 

blue_ladybug

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He's been trying to run off for a long time now. She keeps trying to keep him there with her, pretty much against his will. He's made it clear he's staying ONLY for the kids. In the long run, this all is only going to end up hurting the kids even more..
 
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Well that would be a clue they weren't interested, surely if separation leads to a person running off with someone else it wasn't meant to be. Because no marriage or separation will stop a person from doing that if they are going to do that they will. Sadly it does happen more and more for people are pushing the value of a relationship to the back burner.
No it's just the most dangerous thing you can do. I don't know why they advise that. I heard it even in church. 1 Corinthians 7, don't say no, so the devil won't tempt you. When you kick someone out it's much easier to get tempted. They need comfort from someone else.
 
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BeyondET

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No it's just the most dangerous thing you can do. I don't know why they advise that. I heard it even in church. 1 Corinthians 7, don't say no, so the devil won't tempt you. When you kick someone out it's much easier to get tempted. They need comfort from someone else.
I see where your coming from but on the other side of the coin should she go through that being hurt and not being properly loved just for the sake of the kids. It is true sacrifice is apart of a relationship both people need to reach out and try one can't do it all and does sacrifice mean their love, happiness and feeling lonely all the time. as another mentioned the kids will see what's going on between the parents.
 
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Phases of a relationship.

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I see where your coming from but on the other side of the coin should she go through that being hurt and not being properly loved just for the sake of the kids. It is true sacrifice is apart of a relationship both people need to reach out and try one can't do it all and does sacrifice mean their love, happiness and feeling lonely all the time. as another mentioned the kids will see what's going on between the parents.
Yes I mean if you want to save the marriage I wouldn't advice seperating. I don't know if he is just hurt or feels rejected or if he's serious and it's just because it's too expensive and he wants to go on like that for years. If he wants to go to marriage counselling I'd try that. Otherwise get help and advice yourself.
 
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BeyondET

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Yes I mean if you want to save the marriage I wouldn't advice seperating. I don't know if he is just hurt or feels rejected or if he's serious and it's just because it's too expensive and he wants to go on like that for years. If he wants to go to marriage counselling I'd try that. Otherwise get help and advice yourself.
will she did say they went through counseling a few times still nothing though I will have to say I mean no harm to the OP but we are only hearing one side of the story. my responses are from seeing only that in which I'm reading of the issues.
 
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BeyondET

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Meaning the entry phase should be the maintainence phase as well as the exit phase
 
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BeyondET

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It's just showing how relationships break down.
my bust sorry bro, yes it's does show that indeed, if relationships could stay in the entry phase life would grand.
 
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kris78

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Yes I mean if you want to save the marriage I wouldn't advice seperating. I don't know if he is just hurt or feels rejected or if he's serious and it's just because it's too expensive and he wants to go on like that for years. If he wants to go to marriage counselling I'd try that. Otherwise get help and advice yourself.
He's hurt, and mad at me and at the whole situation. He would've left years ago if could have afforded it. Plus I was a stay at home mom up until March of this year.
 
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He's hurt, and mad at me and at the whole situation. He would've left years ago if could have afforded it. Plus I was a stay at home mom up until March of this year.
Pfffff. If he refuses to forgive and get healed up and repent I'd think: bye bye! Good counselling can do miracles, but only if both want it.
 
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Rosesrock

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It's called a vacuum. And it will fill up with something. Sin has more to do with our own desires than it does to being attacked by satan.


but each person is tempted when they are dragged away by their own evil desire and enticed
I think we're agreeing. The enemy is a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. He prays in our weaknesses. That's why we need to stay close to the Lord.
Not all sin is an attack cause it's already easy for us to choose.
 
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I don't even know where to start. We've been married for 12 years. Which most of it has been me trying to talk him into staying and trying to fix things. I'm tired of trying to fix everything. I feel so lost. We've been to counseling, I've read books, I've done the love dare and still it seems like no matter what things will be good for a while then something will happen that will spark him being mad and he will tell me he's only in this marriage for our children. In the past I have always just swept things under the rug and tried to move on because I love him and I'm not willing to get a divorce but for some reason I'm just tired of dealing with jeckyl and Hyde. Our sex life doesn't exist and I feel a million miles away from him. I try to talk to him about how I'm feeling and all he tells me is if I don't like it I can move out. Most holidays or special occasions something happens and the event is ruined by him being mad at me over something. I feel like a fool for letting this go in for so long. He's an amazing man, loves our children so much. He has an amazing work ethic. He's an amazing provider. But someone's always doing something that upsets him or I'm not backing him up. He feels like he has a wife that doesn't support him. I feel like I've failed in the wife department. We haven't been going to church for the past 1-1/2-2 years. I'm tired of being the one to get everyone to go. My kids need it and whenever I go I feel so blessed afterwards. I just wish he would take the lead on it and take his family to church not because I mentioned it to him all week or because I asked him a million times to go. I haven't talked to anyone about this and I hope I haven't confused anyone. Feels good to finally get it off my chest. I think I might write him a letter because I can get my words across a lot better that way. I need advice and prayer.
Honestly?

Bupkis!

That's kind of like saying, "I'm only eating lima beans and liver because of the kids." T'ain't a person alive who is going to go through nothing but hassle for someone else's benefit alone past a few months. We are a self-centered lazy lot who take the easiest path as often as possible. And we only take the harder path for a reward. There is no reward in simply being there for the kids. Not like the kids will then buy him the sports car of his dreams at high school graduation!

The truth is he uses those words to inflict the most damage when he's angry with you. It has nothing to do with the kids. It has to do with taking out his anger on the easiest target -- you! And you are an easy target because you bought those words. He found your button -- the thing that hurts you the most and he keeps pushing it exactly because you give the proper emotion he wants when it is pushed. Your reaction is his reward, and it's like Pavlov's dogs salavating when the bell is rung.

If it was just the kids, he could always dump you to the side of the road. If it was just the house, he could dump you and the kids on the side of the road. He can dump you at any moment, IF he wasn't getting something good out of you. And no, that reaction you give isn't what good he gets out of the relationship. That's merely a substitute when he has absolutely no idea what he wants.

He wanted you, or you wouldn't be the wife. He wanted to have kids with you, or he'd have had them with someone else. Call him on his game! Stop letting him push that button and get the same reaction each and every time. Accept that statement for what it is -- an angry man taking it out on you. Not your fault he's angry. He skipped going after what makes him happy. Ask the obvious question -- "So what can you do to be happy then?"

And then don't expect the next words that come out of his mouth to be true. He will go defensive and try finding a new button to push. But it's up to you not to take his button pushing personally. It's up to you to do what you need to do in the marriage. (And are you? Because this was all about blaming too.) And it's up to him to do what he needs to do in the marriage.

This sounds like two people avoiding that responsibility all together. You've already had all the advice you can possibly get. Exactly when are you planning on using it? Because letter-writing is not doing what you need to do in this marriage. It's you, yet again, pushing this off as his problem.

Here's your homework: Love God with your whole heart, mind, and body, and then love others as yourself. That includes him. When you get that down, then maybe you have the right to push it off on him.

(You cannot change another person. Through God working through you, you can change to good.)