Marriage Reconciliation, possibly too late

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DEL1984

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Hello. I am in a very dark place in my life right now, so please forgive me if I ramble.

I met my wife online about 8 years ago. It was a very strange way to meet, we met on social media; and neither of us even knew how we became friends. We were instantly both just so excited to talk to each other. We chatted for awhile, then we took it to the next level and started talking on the phone.

We were separated by about 2,000 miles. I flew out to visit her after about 6 months of chatting. We were both definitely in love with one another.

After several trips of visiting her, I realized I had a decision to make. The decision was very easy. I left all of my loving family and friends to move and be with her.

We decided to get married six years ago. We always talked about how we would always be together no matter what. The only issue we could have possibly seen was my drinking. I always had a drinking problem; not the drink every day type. The once I get a couple of drinks in me, I can't stop type. I also developed a violent anger issue. I would throw things, break things, etc. Both of those, so I thought, were my demons. I only looked at how they both hurt me to deal with. Whilst drinking, I would verbally attack her. I have threatened to take my life whilst drunk. I grabbed her and yanked her out of her car whilst blacked out. I knew that I needed to stop drinking, but it just wasn't that easy for me. I would justify things by saying "ah I'll only drink on Fridays" or "I've never hit her or anything. I'd never do that." I think what affected her most was the verbal abuse. I often wouldn't even remember what I said to her.

Most of the times were good times. I would have an outburst of anger, and throw something or curse and yell. I honestly didn't see how that was hurting her until she was gone.

She left 2 weeks ago, she had her family move all of her stuff out while I was at work. I couldn't believe it. I knew that I had problems, but she would always fix everything with a smile. People said she was an enabler, but I'm having a hard time accepting that. I can't place any blame on her.

After she left, I went to my home state for 5 days or so. I just couldn't stay and deal with it. I was completely crushed. I'd go through phases where I was crushed because she was gone, then completely destroyed because I finally realized what I was doing to her. How could I have done those things to the person that I love so much? I saw that it was hurting her, but I was able to block out how much it was hurting her.

Throughout this, we have stayed in communication, but very light and cold. I of course started begging her to take me back, I will change, all that nonsense. There was always hope. She said that we needed to work on ourselves, but who knows what the future will bring. When I got back from my home state, I heard from one of her family members that she was "moving on". I called her, and she didn't answer. She called me right back. I asked "why have I heard from your family member that you are moving on?" She said "I tried to tell you that". So, then back to my old ways, I pressured her into saying that she wants a divorce. I was emotional and she was emotional. I told her that I would accept that if I couldn't make her happy, I love her and I want happiness for her.

The next day, I found a card that she had written to me two years prior. It explained how happy she was and how lucky she was to have me as a husband. I then knew that I couldn't just give up.

Now, for our current situation. She is being very cold and I understand that. I was supposed to protect her heart, not damage and callus it. The only thing I wish from her is that she would have sat down and told me how she feels, with a very serious tone. She didn't owe me that. Anyways, all she will talk to me about is finances and how we are going to split the bills. I am staying at our house, she is not.

I am proud to say that I have been sober through this. It has been the hardest time in my life, and I'm proud that I haven't given in to drinking. I've promised a lot of people in my life that I would stop drinking. This is the first time I have promised myself. I decided to reach out to the Lord because I was so lost. It's kind of ironic, because I always would kind of poke fun at people that turned to God in time of weakness. I realize now that was the devil using me as a vehicle. All of the negative things I've done are, really, Satan working through me. Even through all of this, the Lord was able to forgive me and still accept me. That is amazing!

I was baptized for the first time today. I've always believed in God, but I've never submit myself to him. I wasn't living life according to the word. I've decided to try as hard as I can to sit back and let him take over. I want to really focus on my relationship with him. Focus on bettering myself for me, because I'm tired of messing up my life this way. After reading what the Lord thinks about divorce, I have faith that I will get an opportunity to reconcile. If not, I have her to thank for building my relationship with the Lord.

I really do not know what to say to her, if anything. I'm really struggling with that, because I don't want to lose her. I can't imagine life without her. She seems like she is completely done with me. She wants to sell the house, and split everything. That is so hard for me. I used to care so much about the material things. I don't even care at all now. I just want to be the man that she deserves. I want our love and life back.

Like I said at the beginning, sorry for rambling on so long. Thank you all for reading if you made it this far. I just wanted to get my story out. Any advice is welcome.
 

tourist

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That was quite a story. I'm glad that you have turned to God. The thing is, living with an alcoholic is almost an intolerable experience. My advice is to give your wife space, continue to pray and remain sober. Go to the AA meetings if you must. After a year's time tell her that God has worked a change in you. God will help you but you have to play your part and do the right thing.
 

Angela53510

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You need to find a Christian support group for your alcoholism. I don't advise AA, as a friend of mine had her husband attend, and he moved out and asked for a divorce after 2 years, despite claiming to be saved. AA became more important to him than his wife and children. AA replaced his addiction to liquor with an addiction to their rules and regulations.

Alcohol is a demon. I know, I used to be an alcoholic! And I was a professional musician and played in bars making people drunk.

I truly believe you need to never touch a drop of alcohol again. Not even watered down, American beer. It is beyond you. When God saved me, he took away all desire to drink, and I haven't had a drop in 36 years. This can happen to you. God is wonderful and he can heal your soul. And I have a LOT of fun, without drinking. It really is possible.

But you must never drink again. Forget this nonsense about social drinking. Your post clearly says social drinking is not for you.

As for your wife - you need to pray for her to forgive you. You need to ask God to bring her back. BUT only if you are willing to stop drinking forever!

As for dedicating your life to Christ, my advice is always the same. Get out a modern translation of the Bible and read it every day. Cover to cover. I've been doing that for 36 years, except for 2 years when I was very sick with Rheumatoid Arthritis (And mad at God!) But God even brought me back after that.

The next thing is to pray. Talk to God and get to know him. And do attend a good Bible believing church. Find good Christian friends to support you and encourage you. And don't be afraid to post here - in the prayer forum or where ever God is leading you.

Welcome to CC and the family of God!
 
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pretti

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Hello,
I am also presently in a situation with my marriage. my husband however has been unfaithful and he is still communicating with the other person. what i can suggest however is to log on to rejoice marriage ministries. they help and encourage you on how to stand for your marriage and to pray for your prodigal spouse. hope this helps.
 

Dan58

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She knew you had a drinking problem when she married you, but obviously under-estimated her ability to cope with it. She probably was an enabler, 'fixing everything with a smile' suggest codependency. All you can do now is stay sober, but she may suspect an instant relapse if she returned. Even if you can't gain her confidence that you can stay straight, its a good motivation to break your addiction. Lots of luck.
 

DEL1984

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Thank you all for the advice and support. I am realizing that I really do need to work on myself and my relationship with God more than anything else. I want her to be happy. She deserves not to go through a divorce. I know that God hates divorce.
I am going to talk to her soon regarding finances and living situations. I am going to see how she feels about not jumping to any decisions right now and trying staying apart for a while.
In the meantime, I am going to praise the Lord for helping me through this. I must admit that I was in a very dark place at one point. A scary place. The Lord is giving me peace, and I am forever grateful for that.
As far as not drinking, it seems like an easy choice right now, but I am going to get myself a support group. I know that God works through others. The same goes for my anger issues.

Thanks again everyone. I know that this too shall pass with time. I just pray that she is able to forgive me. I pray that she is alright with God, no matter what the final decision is.
 
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NewWine

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I am not sure your issue is with alcohol itself...I think you have a moderation problem. You're either drunk or you're sober, no in between. You're either mild mannered or flying off the handle....no in between. You can go through life and never touch another drop of alcohol, and it won't change things until you learn how to moderate yourself in ALL situations. But that's just my take.
Pray for yourself. Focus on God and let God change you. Build your relationship through prayer and praise. Getting closer to God will make you a better person all around....and MAYBE someone she feels she can trust again....but if not, then someone other people can trust.
Peace!
 
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obby

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I find the story very inspiring! its one thing to admit one's fault and other to make a transition towards change.Personally, life has thouught me to not only view things from my own standpoint but to view things also through another's eyes.In this period of recess you're passing through, always remember to pray always,there's nothing God can't do...She probably needs a little time to heal.Just have faith!
 
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obby

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I find the story very inspiring! its one thing to admit one's fault and other to make a transition towards change.Personally, life has thouught me to not only view things from my own standpoint but to view things also through another's eyes.In this period of recess you're passing through, always remember to pray always,there's nothing God can't do...She probably needs a little time to heal.Just have faith!
 

Fenner

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My brother in law was an alcoholic for probably 30 year's. He's been sober for 7. He went through AA and found constant support. It saved my Sister and his marriage. He does do some Christian support group stuff but he swears by AA. I know quite a few others that have had success in the program. Give AA a try and see how it goes for you.
 

DEL1984

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Jul 10, 2016
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Thanks again for the kind words everyone.
So, she is set on selling our house. She is going to meet with a real estate agent tomorrow. I have been mindful, respectful, and considerate of her feelings. I really have. I've been agreeing with her about selling the house and using the positive equity to pay off our debts. I don't care about the material of the house; but I care about our home. I don't want to lose our home.

She doesn't want to talk at all about our marriage; the only thing I can get her to talk about is selling the house and splitting finances. I get what I did to her throughout the years was awful, but it's not like I did any of it on purpose. I am being completely honest when I say that I didn't see how badly I was hurting her. I knew that she didn't like the drinking or anger; but I feel it was never communicated to properly. Especially if she is ready for divorce. I did not see this coming at all.

I am at a stage where I feel like it isn't fair. I love her so much with all of my heart, and she is being as cold as she can possibly be about all of it. We shared so many good times together. I always felt like we talked about everything together, and that is what makes this so hard. If she was ready to leave, I feel like I atleast deserved an explanation and a chance to change. I honestly would have if I knew that she was going to leave.

Strangely, just saying forget it all feels better than being heartbroken about it. This has been the worst time I have ever experienced, and I feel like she doesn't even care about what I'm going through. I have lost 25 lbs in the 3 weeks that she's been gone. I haven't slept more than 2 hours a night in those 3 weeks either. I'm afraid whenever I see a sheriff come down my street because I fear that I will get served divorce papers. How can you come to such a terrible conclusion so quickly? I sent her flowers on Monday. Friendly flowers. She said via text "although I appreciate the gesture, please don't do that. I can't do that. It breaks my heart all over again. It's too late for that."

Wow, it's too late for that? I have cried out to God to please help me. Please help me with whatever happens. I pray throughout the entire day that God will make me okay through this. I pray and ask God if only I could get one more chance, I know that I could make her happy again. I pray for forgiveness from God and from her. I just feel like it's over and there is nothing I can do. I have been strong and stayed sober through all of this. I figure that if I can stay sober through the hardest time in my life, I can do it forever. It's not even hard right now, really.

Once again, I apologize for the long post. I'm just so lost and it helps me to talk to people about it. Thank you all for listening and keeping me in your prayers.
 

Fenner

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I know you've probably heard this a million times, but it sounds like you really need to give her some space and time. I feel for you and I hope you've reached out to in person support groups. I hope in time your marriage can be repaired.
 

DEL1984

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Today, I was walking my dog on a long 5 mile walk. I felt like I haven't felt since she left. I felt hope and faith. I was supposed to talk to her tomorrow, she was going to grant me that wish to talk about a few things that I wanted to talk about.

I realized that was selfish, but I just knew that I needed to tell her how I feel. So, rather than talking to her tomorrow, I sent a long text today. It was like the words were just as they were intended to be. I couldn't keep holding in my feelings for her.

I basically told her that I couldn't ask her to come back. That I didn't care about selling the house, because I don't. I just asked her to forgive me. I don't care how long that takes. I told her that running away from the past is fine; that's how you grow. I asked her to look toward the future, and hopefully see us together. Without my sins.
It felt so good to tell her how I feel, in a way that hopefully didn't make her feel uncomfortable. I knew that she wouldn't feel comfortable talking about it on the phone.

She hasn't responded, and that's perfectly okay. I know that it isn't going to be better in only 3 weeks. But I can honestly say that I'm growing. I'm realizing that I can change for the better.

Thanks again to all of you for keeping me in your prayers. It means a lot to me.
 

Magenta

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Thank you for having the courage to be so open and honest with us. Despite your previous deleterious problem with alcohol, it seems pretty obvious that you are a decent guy with a sincere desire to be reunited to your wife whom you love with true devotion. I hope for your sake and her's too that she is not so far gone into the territory of having made up her mind to leave that she will never recant. I too would suggest you stay close to some support group such as AA, for it is a wonderful program that has helped many millions of people turn their lives around and get back on track. There are no rules and regulations, but suggestions and slogans and of course the steps and traditions and also the concepts and promises. The program is designed to help people establish and maintain their relationship with God. I wish you and your wife the best.

Here are the promises of the program, that are part of step nine:

If we are painstaking about this phase of our development,
we will be amazed before we are halfway through.

(1) We are going to know a new freedom and a new happiness.

(2) We will not regret the past nor wish to shut the door on it.
(3) We will comprehend the word serenity and we will know peace.
(4) No matter how far down the scale we have gone,
we will see how our experience can benefit others.

(5) That feeling of uselessness and self-pity will disappear.
(6) We will lose interest in selfish things and gain interest in our fellows.
(7) Self-seeking will slip away.
(8) Our whole attitude and outlook upon life will change.
(9) Fear of people and of economic insecurity will leave us.
(10) We will intuitively know how to handle situations which used to baffle us.
(11) We will suddenly realize that God is doing for us what we could not do for ourselves.



 

Angela53510

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I was just thinking about your post again. And the anger issues. Sometimes people self medicate with alcohol. In other words, there might be an underlying mental illness problem, and instead of taking medication, people drink. And it doesn't work. I would advise some pastoral care, or even seeing your doctor, as you seem to be having some major mood swings. Which might be expected with losing your wife, of course. I am also talking especially about before.

If I am wrong, then just ignore this. But do think about it, it might help you cope in the future!
 

DEL1984

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Thank you Angela- you are absolutely correct. I have had anxiety and depression issues my entire life. I realize now that I tend to mask my anxiety with anger. For that matter, I seem to mask all of my feelings with anger. I have been on SSRI's before I met my wife, but I continued to drink whilst taking them.

About a year ago, my current physician recommended that I think about getting on anti-depressants again. I thought about it for awhile, and I decided not to take them. The decision was ultimately to spare my wife's feelings. I put myself in her shoes and thought- so this guy has to be on anti-depressants? He is that unhappy with me? I realize now, that was not a good decision. I could have saved her from a lot of turmoil.

Yesterday, I went to the doctor because I can't keep functioning at work with only 2 hours or less of sleep a night. They gave me prescription sleep aid, and an anti-depressant. I have made the promise to myself and to God that I am done with drinking, because I can't keep putting myself in situations like this.

Also, yesterday I sent my wife a long text, pretty much making excuses about how things were. I told her that I let my disease tell me that I could control everything (which I believe is the truth), and that I'm sorry that it took this rock-bottom of my life to show me that I can't control it. I need to completely abstain from it, for the rest of my life.

She didn't respond, and I expected that. Shortly after I sent it, it dawned on me- I can't keep doing that, for numerous reasons. First, because I need to let her figure things out on her own. Even though I didn't realize it, I am trying to manipulate her and guilt her into being with me. That isn't healthy for either of us. Most importantly, I need to give her time to heal HER way. I feel like I want to fix everything and help her heal, but it isn't my place to do that. And, lastly, I can't keep doing it to myself. If she does respond, it is very cold and she will just reiterate that she can never be with me again. That hurts, and I'm realizing that I'm bringing it onto myself. So, I'm basically taking the advice that I've heard from numerous people, to just give her space. But, for the right reason this time. Not because I think that it will heal our marriage; but because it will help her heal herself. That is where you are supposed to be if you really care about someone.

I need to continue to work on my relationship with the Lord and let him guide me on the path that I am supposed to take. It is hard to conclude that I need to put my relationship with him first, before anything else. I am getting there though.

Lastly, I have come to the conclusion that my posts are waaaay too long on here Lol. I am just glad you all are able to listen to my story.

God Bless!
 
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Ariel82

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May God bless and continue to guide you.