Her Story, His Story, and the Reality

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While everyone is assuming they know the whole story because a spouse comes on here to tell how bad their marriage is, I'd like to tell two different stories of real people I know/knew from different sides. One you may recognize. I will tell them as each person experienced it. As you read them, please think of what response you would give each spouse.

Couple One
Her Story

We married after our daughter was born. It was lonely at first, because he was a sailor and away for two years. Our daughter was one before he came home. When he did come home, he didn't have a job, so the first job he got was working for a heating outfit down the street. We didn't even have a car, so I couldn't go anywhere, constantly stuck at home with just the baby. I was the one responsible for paying the bills and he never made enough.

For the first year he was working, he worked full time and then went to school full time. If it wasn't for the military money he received, we wouldn't have had enough food for our baby. And then once he learned the job, he often had to work overtime, sometimes for days on end. He often couldn't come home for Thanksgiving, Christmas or New Years. Our daughter hardly ever saw her Daddy. Money was still so tight that the only way we got a vacuum cleaner was me asking for one from people at our church.

After our son was born, I was hospitalized for months. He rarely came to visit, and I was so lonely. I needed to express my creativity. I hung out with fellow writers we knew through church, and he got jealous. So jealous he left me. We fought for our marriage and he was about to return home again, but he dropped off our daughter, yelled at me, and left instead. I'm heartbroken and lonely. Should I keep fighting for out marriage or leave him?


His Story
We had dated throughout high school. When I was 17, I joined the Navy and was sent out on a ship. We wrote all the time, and when the mail came in when we were in Spain, she told me she was pregnant from her boss. She was 16. He was a married man. She was frantic, and I wanted to take care of her, so I married her. She had a baby girl, my daughter, and we named her after me. The wedding and honeymoon were over a weekend in Jacksonville and then I had to be flown back to the ship. The only time I saw them was when the ship returned to port, my hometown. Everything from my pay but $5 was sent to her each month. I had a banking service on ship, so I could turn that $5 into enough to live on.

But a year later, I was out of the service, except for every fourth weekend, and I had to found a job doing heating work as an apprentice. At first all they had me do was sweep the floor so money was tight. That was okay, we didn't need a car. We lived in the city, so could get anywhere by bus. I studied HVAC at night for 18 months, so I was exhausted at night. It was unfair to her, but it's what paid our bills.

She was great with fixing up old furniture, and could do so well with my money. I was making great money working overtime, but she really wanted a house. I missed my daughter, but every weekend, since my wife liked to sleep in, my daughter and I would go out for breakfast together and connect. She saved enough for a downpayment thanks to the VA money for a mortgage. The house only had two bedrooms, and we were going to have our first child together, so I rmodeled the garage into a bedroom, bathroom and dinning room on weekends I wasn't working and late into the night. The only help I got was from my buddy who would tell me what to do next.

At the end of the pregnancy the baby had pushed on her gall bladder so badly she needed it out. That was in the days when they cut an 8" scare down her belly. She hurt so much and was in the hospital for 2 weeks. It was hard talking care of a toddler and a baby, working full time, and visiting her, but i visited, every time I could find someone who could watch the kids. I was exhausted. When she came home, she was different -- moody. It didn't take long before I realized she was taking percocet. I told that doctor she was addicted to percocet before. They put her into the mental hospital to detox. More weeks running around like a crazy man, working all those hours and seeing the kids. By that time I dropped on off at my brother's house and the other one with her sister.


Finally she came home, but she was still different. Noe I think it was bipolar, but no one diagnosed that. I just didn't know who I was coming home too. Good thing we were Christians by then. Bad thing though, and I didn't know it until it was too late, we had a cult leader as a pastor. Some of his counsel was nuts, but he was a pastor, and who doesn't trust pastors? No sex for nine long months.

Sometimes I'd come home and she was nice and very homey. She is great with the house. Other nights she was weird. She'd act like a little girl coming on to me. But the knife came out and she charged me with ti. I grabbed her arms, and putt her off the ground, drag her to a sofa or bed and hold her down util she calmed down and drop the knife. The day I woke up and she laid next to be with a one-blade razor on her necklace and ask me hoe great it was to be a live, I go what she meant. She was put in the mental institute agaian. As they pushed the wheelchair with a smiling face. She was ups to something. I told them she had a bottle of pills in her had and would kill herself. The aid, "This sweet little lady? I ripped the pills out of her hand, and then I told them about the razor blade necklace. They didn't believe that either, so I ripped it off he neck. Then they believed me.

I visited the kids every night. We got back together when she returned home. It didn't take long for things to go to normal, but I still didn't know who I was coming home to. She was paraded out a bunch of demons at church one sunday. She changed to the good, until the night I found one of my friends from church e\was naked in bed with hoer. The pastor said to feto out for a week, and I did, but the Bible told me to forgive her and go back with her. I had our daughter who told what Kemy was doing in our house with Mommy. That was when it was over.

Which story do you believe?

(I'll do the other one tomorrow.)
 

Dan58

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I tend to believe his story... She leaves a lot of details out, is very accusational and unappreciative, and sounds like a very spoiled and self-involved person... Just my take on it.. Not sure what the point is though? Why fabricate stories when we have a lot of real life dilemmas? I guess your point is that there are always 2 sides to every story, and analyzing a situation from one persons perspective can be unjust to the person they're complaining about?
 
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I would give the same response I always give: Get professional counseling.

Nobody on this site is qualified to give marriage counseling because we can't possibly know all the circumstances involved. And of course, there's always two sides to every story.
 
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I tend to believe his story... She leaves a lot of details out, is very accusational and unappreciative, and sounds like a very spoiled and self-involved person... Just my take on it.. Not sure what the point is though? Why fabricate stories when we have a lot of real life dilemmas? I guess your point is that there are always 2 sides to every story, and analyzing a situation from one persons perspective can be unjust to the person they're complaining about?
It's not fabricated. And, they're both tell the truth. They're just leaving out some of the details. The things they're embarrassed about.
 
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I would give the same response I always give: Get professional counseling.

Nobody on this site is qualified to give marriage counseling because we can't possibly know all the circumstances involved. And of course, there's always two sides to every story.
They got counseling,
 

BenFTW

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VVhy is his story way longer than hers? lol I just had to bring it up. :D
 
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I am waiting for the third installment.

Just from her words I would tell her: he is working hard and education is a good thing. Also how can you be alone with kids and God?

From his story: if the pastor is a cult leader, why did he stay? Marrying someone who was pregnant with her married boss' child, isn't the best basis for marriage. What about love? Forgiveness?

Yes both need counseling and we can't provide it online, just encourage them to go and pray they find a church that is lead by God and not a cult leader.
 
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notmyown

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I would give the same response I always give: Get professional counseling.

Nobody on this site is qualified to give marriage counseling because we can't possibly know all the circumstances involved. And of course, there's always two sides to every story.
when our children were small and wanted me involved in their disputes, i told them there were three sides.

your side, her side, and the truth.
 
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Couple Two

His Story

I still love her with an ache I will never get over. She was perfect -- she took care of our three kids, and then our four kids. She took great care of the house, always keeping it spotless, even when the three kids weren't in school yet. She could make jams and jellies, even out of crabapples and plums. She took decrepit old trunks and turned them into heirlooms. When the kids were in school, she had them trash pick old glass and made decorations on a wreath she created that spanned the side of our three-story house. She was the den mother for our son's cub scout troop, a girl scout leader, until our daughter was old enough to be a Brownie, and then she took over the brownies. She spent election days behind the table teaching voters how to use the booths, and even cleaned the marble alter at church. And yet, my shirts never had ring around the collar, she could turn rabbit into hossenfeffer, squirrel into a stew, and even fried fish despite being deathly allergic to it.

Dinner was always on the table, and the kids had their hands and faces washed and waited for me.

We went to her parent's for the weekend three out of two weekends a month, more often during the school year. We visited my parents one weekend a month, since our parents lived so far away.

She wanted to have a career in teaching, but waited for the youngest to be in fourth grade before she taught. And then she was angry with me because she had to quit at the end of the year when our fourth child was due.

To advance at work, we were supposed to move every two to three years, but she had moved so often when she was a child, she didn't want to move. I let her stay in our first house past when management threatened to fire me. Rather than uproot my family, I spent the weeks on the other side of the country, and then returned on weekends. When that didn't satisfy her, and she wanted more time to get things done around the house, I'd skip weekends for her.

Work insisted the whole family move, so she finally relented and we all moved 17 years later. The following summer she just left me and took my children with her.

I did everything for her -- worked to support our family, came home every night for those years I wasn't away, provided food for the table, our yard was immaculate, and our house always painted. She is still my love, and I have no idea what else I could have done.

Her Story

He knew I wanted to teach, but also wanted children. The plan was to have children and when the youngest was in third grade, I would teach. After our third child he changed. He came home every night, ate dinner, and then slept until the children went to bed. Instead of spending time together, he'd criticize every thing I missed cleaning during the day. I even learned to clean door frames, because he would check, and then baseboard, and window sills. He knew I was deathly allergic to fish. My doctor told me if fish was in the house, just the smell could kill me, but we were Catholic, so I had to fry the fish every Friday and then eat a peanut butter and jam sandwich for dinner. No matter what I did, he could do it better. My friends were miles away. My parents were hours away. He took the car, so I couldn't visit on my own unless I walked I admit, I walked at times taking my three kids in the wagon.

He thought he was doing me a favor by taking us to my parents' house. He was. I spent the weekend with Mom while he, my brothers and fathers spent the weekend hunting. If they didn't hunt together, he'd take Dad's boat out fishing all weekend. I saw him less on weekends than on weeknights. All I saw of him during the week was his feet as he slept on the sofa.

The only way to stay connected with others was to volunteer, so I volunteered for everything -- scout leader, election board, I even worked in the school cafeteria if someone couldn't come in that day. I was trained to be a teacher, but it took me several years before I talked him into letting me teach again. Our bed had been so lonely for years, but we celebrated my new teaching job the next day that one night. Within a month I found out I was pregnant again. Ten years since my last child. Ten years of sleeping alone, but he just didn't want me to teach. I gave the final exams early, and a substitute teacher finished the year.

He knew my due date, yet he still went out fishing every weekend. I had Mom come up to help me, since our three children were all in grade school. I felt the contractions before he left, but I kept quiet until he left. That day my third son was born and I did what I could not do until that point -- I named him what I wanted, instead of what he wanted.

He knew I had moved 26 times before I was 16. I wanted to settle down. But as a final punishment, he made us move when our oldest was a senior -- to a different state. Our son was angry. Finally, after six weeks in his new school thousands of miles from his friends, I took him to the airport to go back to his hometown and stay with friends to graduate at his school. My husband punished us both by not talking to our son -- pretending he didn't even exist when he came home for Christmas -- and hardly talking to me. He hadn't talked to me in years, so it didn't bother me as much as he thought.

The following summer, I learned I had cancer. I was dying. I would not live my final days with a man who ignored me hidden away in a house in the suburbs so far away from anyone I knew and with no car, so I couldn't even drive into town if I wanted. I packed the car and took the kids back with my mother.
 
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I am waiting for the third installment.

Just from her words I would tell her: he is working hard and education is a good thing. Also how can you be alone with kids and God?

From his story: if the pastor is a cult leader, why did he stay? Marrying someone who was pregnant with her married boss' child, isn't the best basis for marriage. What about love? Forgiveness?

Yes both need counseling and we can't provide it online, just encourage them to go and pray they find a church that is lead by God and not a cult leader.
The reality is always somewhere in between the two sides.

As for the cult leader? They don't just pop up as a cult leader the first day you meet them. That is something that slowly grows until someone notices or is hurt terrible because he/she never did.

That story is 40 years old. My second story is older. They're both true.
 
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I would give the same response I always give: Get professional counseling.

Nobody on this site is qualified to give marriage counseling because we can't possibly know all the circumstances involved. And of course, there's always two sides to every story.
There are actually three sides to every story:

His, Hers, and the Truth. :)