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    Default Re: Being gay a choice or genetically born that way?

    I disagree with part of your post, JSR. I do not believe that God creates gay babies, and certainly not with homosexual desire for their same gender.





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    It it's pretty gay that we have all these threads about being gay
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    Quote Originally Posted by blue_ladybug View Post
    I disagree with part of your post, JSR. I do not believe that God creates gay babies, and certainly not with homosexual desire for their same gender.
    It's hard to say when there is much of the human brain left unexplained. We know there are people born with imbalances. We know people are born with both sets of genitalia. To simply throw out the fact, and not take it into consideration when knowing there a quite a number of things biologically that can alter a person's personality, is wrong. Is this the case for every single person? No. But not every single gay person was raped or is trying to conform into what society is trying to say, either. Not everything is black and white.
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    Some say it's caused by chemical changes to DNA
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    Some say it's caused by chemical changes to DNA
    Usually those who care little for what God has said. Those who seek an explanation according to mans wisdom and deny Gods wisdom

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    Can a person control what he or she is attracted to?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    Can a person control what he or she is attracted to?
    Joh 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

    Joh 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

    It would appear that God has determined that man must choose so man must be able to choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notuptome View Post
    Usually those who care little for what God has said. Those who seek an explanation according to mans wisdom and deny Gods wisdom

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    Kind of laughable when so many fat "Christians" will gladly claim it is because of a particular bodily disorder.... or whatever. "Obesity runs in my family." or "I am big-boned."
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    And for many, those excuses are true.. So every fat person is fat ONLY because they eat too much? Now THAT is laughable..


    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    Kind of laughable when so many fat "Christians" will gladly claim it is because of a particular bodily disorder.... or whatever. "Obesity runs in my family." or "I am big-boned."





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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Bible View Post
    Being gay is definitely a choice. It is not in no way hereditary..... They can't reproduce. Not even the theory of evolution supports homosexuality considering humans have to adapt to the environment based on natural selection aka survival of the fittest. Then they would say well the Earth is over-populated so we need less people, like if that is somehow a justifiable answer, God told Noah go and replenish the Earth. Humans cannot "evolve" if they can't even populate.

    Genesis 1:28 - And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.

    Genesis 9:1 - And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.

    Homosexuality is in fact abominable and can lead someone to hell IF they don't have Christ. All forms of LBGT are INFLUENCED by spiritual things not hereditary by a gene code. Nobody puts a gun to they head and tells em become gay or else you will die.

    Leviticus 18:22 - Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it [is] abomination.

    Romans (1:27-28) - And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    I agree very strongly with everything you have said here, and I also think it applies to all sin. I don't think homosexuality is some "super evil sin above all others", or anything like that. I do think it is a lot more dangerous these days and leads to confusion and from God, but we can let any sin do the same to us. For me pride was my downfall, God had to crush that out of me, and I still battle it, after everything He has done for me, for all of us, and I can still find myself starting to puff up my chest at times. All sin separates us from His will and I actually think your descriptions and comment convey what sin does to us all very well.
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    Yes! I was set free from being bisexual.. I can look back and see how it all started.. it was influenced before I had an attraction for either
    Quote Originally Posted by Dude653 View Post
    Can a person control what he or she is attracted to?
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    I do think my yearning for a male in my life BC my father was not, was the reason I wasn't fully lesbian
    As water reflects the face, so one's life reflects the heart
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    Quote Originally Posted by Willie-T View Post
    Kind of laughable when so many fat "Christians" will gladly claim it is because of a particular bodily disorder.... or whatever. "Obesity runs in my family." or "I am big-boned."
    Do you ever pay attention to the scriptures?

    Romans 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

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    We can't make an excuse for what's wrong------some men claim that can't help molesting children---were they born that way?----some men cannot stay with one woman---they are unfaithful spouses---were they born that way---no matter---What God says about it matters---you can't stop a bird from fly over head---but you can prevent him from building a nest on your head...

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    We are born into sin,... Doesn't really matter what type of sin it is because they have the seed of sin in them from birth, that seed produces sinful fruits of its own, so it's not a matter of what fruit they have, we all had the same seed the day we were born.

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    It very easily could be genetic I highly doubt it's a choice. I mean it's not I can just suddenly wake one day and say to myself I think I will be sexually attracted to little boys or I think I will be sexually attracted to guys.

    If something is not in you then you cannot just suddenly make it appear, we all are born with weaknesses and thorns in our sides that must overcome
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blain View Post
    It very easily could be genetic I highly doubt it's a choice. I mean it's not I can just suddenly wake one day and say to myself I think I will be sexually attracted to little boys or I think I will be sexually attracted to guys.

    If something is not in you then you cannot just suddenly make it appear, we all are born with weaknesses and thorns in our sides that must overcome
    Read Romans chapter one and believe God when He says its a choice its a choice. Just the verses starting with verse 18 to the end will reveal the truth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by notuptome View Post
    Read Romans chapter one and believe God when He says its a choice its a choice. Just the verses starting with verse 18 to the end will reveal the truth.

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    For a rare occasion here, I have to agree with Rodger. The Bible very clearly says in Romans 1, that it is the wrath of God in action......... "giving-over" people to live out their choices.
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    Its a spiritual influence that takes place when kids are young.. little children don't know the enemy plants thoughts or suggestions in their minds.. without parents that are sensitive or aware of such things, they go unchecked and kids think they are gay, lesbian, bi, trans.... Not genetic, it's influence left unaddressed
    Quote Originally Posted by Blain View Post
    It very easily could be genetic I highly doubt it's a choice. I mean it's not I can just suddenly wake one day and say to myself I think I will be sexually attracted to little boys or I think I will be sexually attracted to guys.

    If something is not in you then you cannot just suddenly make it appear, we all are born with weaknesses and thorns in our sides that must overcome
    As water reflects the face, so one's life reflects the heart
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    Hello brothers, and sisters,
    I wanted to share that i have been in a 21 year realationship with a woman, and i am perfectly happy except when i read Romans or Leviticus and so forth. It is only then that I wonder if I am wrong and struggle because i love God, and the Lord Jesus very much, and i don't want to be a disappointment to them. So i look to scripture where Eve was created from what God took from Adam, (rib) which tells me that Adam had the potential to be the man he was created to be or the woman that was created from him, and vice versa. For they will become one flesh. Considering that the intersex have not full set of gentialia, but partial of both sexes seems to back up my theory. And the intersex is more common than i originally thought 1 out of every 2000 births. Also the go forth be fruitful and multiply i don't believe was meant for all of mankind for God gave this blessing to many, Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham...so on and so forth. If it was meant for all of mankind why would He have to repeat Hisself? And there is a popular belief that Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed because of homosexuality, and yet read the story and it is not mentioned once, it is in other parts of the bible...my point though is if Lot's daughters had been accepted by the men it would have been rape, same is to be said if Lot had given over the two angels disguised as men.
    What gives me hope is this...The lord Jesus never spoke about homosexuality. He didn't call me an abomination, or of a depraved, and reprobate mind. He couldn't get the Jews to understand about divorce being wrong, God gave marriage as a blessing for if once again it was not a blessing but a rule then why did Jesus state that after the reserruction we will not be given in marriage? Does it make sense that God pre-ordained marriage for this moment in time, to what then change His mind for the eternity? God doesn't change His mind therefore this leads me to believe that it was a blessing. Also Jesus spoke of us being eunnachs...for some are born of women, made of by man, and for the kingdom of heaven's sake. He told the disciples that not all men can accept this saying BUT if they could then they should be eunnachs. Also how can ALL scripture be God-breathed when it is appointed for man to die ONCE and then judgement....what of Lazarus who died twice, and those that rose from the graves when Jesus died, or many including myself who has died and been brought back? For if you believe within yourselves that those that rose from the graves ascended to heaven and those who have been brought back were just near death experiences, it still does not explain Lazarus for just one example is one to many when ALL scripture is supposed to be God breathed. thank you for your time and consideration brothers and sisters.

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