I Feel Like God Doesn't Care About My Family

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Magenta

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This is a great outlook but it requires humility from others to accept and practice. Sadly the issues you've outlined are rife. Well done for encouraging the op, I hope they're able to take solace and wisdom from your post to help heal their spirit.
I do not see any encouragement for the OP in that post :confused::confused::confused:

Here it is again:

WOW just read this thread and all there encouragement is amazing!

(for those who lack understanding that's sarcasm)

i relized that word maybee to big for some of you too so i have the definition.

sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm
noun
[COLOR=#878787 !important]


  • the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
[/COLOR]you all need to learn to read you bibles more, especially on love. i doesn't matter if she is having a hard time, and yours is worse, or she is a little better off. right now she is a sister in need and if you are soo much worse off yet dealing with it sooo much better, why don't you post what God has done for you helping you carry on, the word of scripture you stand on! instead you belittle her... SMH just a bunch of babes in Christ!
Could you highlight the encouragement to the OP for me? I have missed it entirely because in fact it is entirely missing from his post while he lambastes everyone who offered assistance, which was criticized and rejected ungraciously. He defined his own post as sarcasm, with very poor spelling, while giving lessons in English no less, and you praise him for it.
 
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Miri

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Oh and Wanderer, just to say the people who replied to this thread are
still going through difficult times. So where is your encouragement for them.
Oh sorry I forgot you are a WOF person and would rather rejoice with people
who have everything after all and express sympathy to them when they say they
need still more after all they must have great limitless faith to have everything.
While people who have very little, dont have sufficient faith so we will just be sarcastic
with them as they must be doing something wrong.


To the OP, the above was directed at Wanderer and is not a back handed swipe at
yourself.
 
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Ariel82

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A Psalm of Asaph. 73​

Truly God is good to Israel, To such as are pure in heart.

But as for me, my feet had almost stumbled; My steps had nearly slipped. For I was envious of the boastful, When I saw the prosperity of the wicked.


For there are no pangs in their death, But their strength is firm. They are not in trouble as other men, Nor are they plagued like other men.

Therefore pride serves as their necklace; Violence covers them like a garment. Their eyes bulge with abundance; They have more than heart could wish.

They scoff and speak wickedly concerning oppression; They speak loftily. They set their mouth against the heavens, And their tongue walks through the earth. Therefore his people return here, And waters of a full cup are drained by them. And they say, “How does God know? And is there knowledge in the Most High?” Behold, these are the ungodly, Who are always at ease; They increase in riches. Surely I have cleansed my heart in vain, And washed my hands in innocence.

For all day long I have been plagued, And chastened every morning.
If I had said, “I will speak thus,” Behold, I would have been untrue to the generation of Your children. When I thought how to understand this, It was too painful for me—

Until I went into the sanctuary of God; Then I understood their end. Surely You set them in slippery places; You cast them down to destructi
on. Oh, how they are brought to desolation, as in a moment! They are utterly consumed with terrors. As a dream when one awakes, So, Lord, when You awake, You shall despise their image. Thus my heart was grieved, And I was vexed in my mind. I was so foolish and ignorant; I was like a beast before You. Nevertheless I am continually with You; You hold me by my right hand. You will guide me with Your counsel, And afterward receive me to glory. Whom have I in heaven but You? And there is none upon earth that I desire besides You.

My flesh and my heart fail; But God is the strength of my heart and my portion forever.


For indeed, those who are far from You shall perish; You have destroyed all those who desert You for harlotry. But it is good for me to draw near to God; I have put my trust in the Lord God, That I may declare all Your works.
 
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Ariel82

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I read this psalm this morning and made me think of this post.

We are not alone in wondering why the wicked seem to prosper, but God tells us that He chastens His children. If they are not being disciplined unto righteousness, then they may be destroyed in eternal hellfire.

*******sidenote*****

I would ask my brothers and sisters to tame their tongues and examine their hearts before posting.

Fighting amongst ourselves accomplish nothing but Satan's laughter.

2 wrongs don't make it right.

***to wanderer**

I will pray God reveals the harm the WOF doctrine does before you cut too many more people. Pride and lusts for this world kills you spiritually. You walk down as dangerous path, will you listen? Will you stop and pray with a humble heart willing to hear God's will and not tell Him yours?
 
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Ariel82

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Dear Heavenly Father:

You know our hearts. You know our pain and our fears. Though people might not be able to tell, I sometimes hesitate to pray because I don't want to appear pretentious, self righteous, holier-than-thou. However, those accusations are from people who haven't watch me fall, who don't know my life struggles. They only see the highlights of my life because fear and pride keeps me from showing them my own weaknesses. The world has taught,me that to show weakness is to ask for pain and ridicule. So I hide behind mask of "I am okay". But some days I am not.

I fall before you Lord, broken and in need of your love.

You lift me up and clothe me in white robes of Christ's righteousness. You wash me clean by His blood.

So if I appear holy to others, it's not because of my own works but Christ work in my life.

The world tells me to hide, but You tell me to let my light shine before men so that they may see and glorify you.

Therefore Lord I will stand unashamed, unapologetically, lifting up my brothers and sisters. Forgive us Lord for our tresspass, pour forth Your grace upon us and our lives. We have done nothing to deserve it. We deserve to be chastened, but we ask for mercy and wisdom to see how our chastenment creates in us a clean heart and yields fruits of the Holy Spirit.

Lord thank you for your many blessings. Thank you for our beloved children. Thank you for the sunrise. Thank you for good food and the company of the saints,

In Jesus Holy name we pray, Amen.
 

NotmebutHim

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Between 2009 and 2012, I was out of work for over 3 years. During that time, I still had to maintain my mortgage payments. God used other means to keep a roof over my head, give me decent food and decent clothes.

God is always looking out for us and providing for us. Even in ways we can't see.
 

NotmebutHim

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I had another thought. In some Asian countries, they'll take people with degrees to teach English. It used to be easy to get a job. Maybe it still is. I hear you can make $2000 a month in China. The qualifications you need are to be a native speaker of English and a college degree. A white face helps. Some training helps you actually be able to do the job. The top certificate, is, or used to be, the CELTA, a Cambridge certificate, for teaching English. Some universities have certificates you can get if you take three classes. The Southern Baptists have, or had, a training program that was good, too, to train their people for community outreaches in the US. There are also online courses. Or you could just start work and figure it out, and hopefully you get a good text book with a teachers guide.

Anyway, basically the idea is like this, you or your husband or both go to China or some other country and teach at an institute. The children are a problem though. Maybe you could find a place that would get a visa for your kids, too, if you both would work for them. They may go for a married couple if they had a bad experience with a single fornicator who liked to drink or something like that in the past. Or maybe you could work with a missions-related agency that sends people out.

If both of you got $2000 a month for teaching 20 hours a week, that would be $4000. Two at $1800 would be $3600. It depends on how old your kids are, though. If your kids are school age, then you'd either have to put them in Chinese school or pay expensive international tuition.

There are also cheaper countries that pay less in the ASEAN region. Lets say you went some place like Indonesia and were able to get $1000 a piece, and pay a live-in baby sitter $200 a month to help with the kids. That's not ideal, but it might help with scheduling. If you were both certified teachers (in a US state primary, middle, or high school system), you could possibly get $4000 or more for both of you, or more, to teach at an English-speaking school in Indonesia, get free tuition for your kids there, and hire a maid so you didn't have to do a lot of housework.

It is typical for these teaching jobs to pay for housing. Often they pay a ticket home every year or so.

You could look at eslcafe.com. If you didn't have kids, it would probably be easy to get a job. With children, it makes the visa situation difficult. But if you shop around, you might find a match if you are interested.

In China, food is probably about half price of the US outside of the big cities in my limited experience. In lots of these countries food is cheap, you'd get your rent paid for.
Yeah, a lady I went to high school with taught in China for a while.
 
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Between 2009 and 2012, I was out of work for over 3 years. During that time, I still had to maintain my mortgage payments. God used other means to keep a roof over my head, give me decent food and decent clothes.

God is always looking out for us and providing for us. Even in ways we can't see.

That's a really inspiring message. I hope you gain some confidence Kayleigh when you see how faithful the Lord is, especially in our darkest hours when the enemy has us deceived into believing we're 'alone'. Where there is life, there is hope, so please don't give up. In all your ways acknowledge the Lord and He will direct your path.
 

notuptome

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In situations like this it is often difficult not to lose sight of the promises of God. We must remember that time spent waiting on God is never wasted time. Some of the urgency we bring to a given situation we bring ourselves. This kind of situation is tribulation that comes across our path to help us to grow deeper into our dependence on God. Tribulation worketh patience.

Ro 5:3 And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;

I do not enjoy patience like I thought I would.:)

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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Whether you realise it or not, she did get encouragement via tough love,
A whole bunch of people who have been through difficult times and are coming
through it, are saying to her ya know what, life's not as bad as you think.

There is a reason we should count our blessings, its biblical.
The children of Isreal did nothing but moan and complain this angered God.
Only one of the 10 lepers returned to say thank you to Jesus, this saddened Jesus.
WOF people don't understand the value of adversity and spiritual growth, they are
too busy telling people they lack faith or they would have everything they could ever wish
for.
Some of us aren't coming through tough times. This is it in this life. No winning lottery ticket will ever blow into our hand. No hope that our love one will ever be healthy again. Very little hope that cancer won't return.

Sort of like Paul again. (Hi, Ellie! ;)) We are slaves, much beloved by our Master, and that needs to be enough. What we do with our talents is enough to equip us for Him.

My happily-ever-after started the day God preordained me, (if God were stuck in time and space so lived in "days." lol) For me, this life is nothing more than bracing for what's next, but my brace is in God, so it's a firm embrace with a verbally-promised (Revelation 22, so it is verbal as well as written) that God wins with his grace! He is my happily-ever-after. And I am his bride.
 

notmyown

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Some of us aren't coming through tough times. This is it in this life. No winning lottery ticket will ever blow into our hand. No hope that our love one will ever be healthy again. Very little hope that cancer won't return.

Sort of like Paul again. (Hi, Ellie! ;)) We are slaves, much beloved by our Master, and that needs to be enough. What we do with our talents is enough to equip us for Him.

My happily-ever-after started the day God preordained me, (if God were stuck in time and space so lived in "days." lol) For me, this life is nothing more than bracing for what's next, but my brace is in God, so it's a firm embrace with a verbally-promised (Revelation 22, so it is verbal as well as written) that God wins with his grace! He is my happily-ever-after. And I am his bride.

The LORD appeared to him from afar, saying, "I have loved you with an everlasting love; Therefore I have drawn you with lovingkindness. (Jer 31:3)

praise God :)


 
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Between 2009 and 2012, I was out of work for over 3 years. During that time, I still had to maintain my mortgage payments. God used other means to keep a roof over my head, give me decent food and decent clothes.

God is always looking out for us and providing for us. Even in ways we can't see.
Amen!

Between 2002-2004 hubby became unable to work, and then found out he had Hepatitis C 2B. (2B is very important because it was the only treatable form of HepC at that time, so he laughed, and scared the doctor telling him, because she wanted to assure him he was deathly ill, but he was so happy to find out he had a chance to live, when he had been thinking he was dying for months with no hope to live.)

The same week he went on the beginning of 24 weeks of chemo treatments, we got the foreclosure on our house. (Foreclosure -- the bank telling us we had 3 months to catch up on our mortgage or find a new place to live.) The same week we ran out of savings, so we had $839 a month to live on. (The mortgage was $550. The utilities average $300.)

God did the same thing for us too. I had it figured out how to make hubby comfortable (as possible) while still getting treatment (and his chemo meds were sent through the mail, so needed some place to be sent to) even if we had to live in our car. We're still living in our house. Praise God!

It truly amazes me how God takes care of his children, even when it doesn't feel like it.
 

melita916

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the title of the thread: i feel like God doesn't care.

feelings change all the time. one moment, i can be completely happy, and i could totally get bummed out the next.

the truth is declared in God's word. His truth is always the same regardless of our feelings. He DOES care. He feeds the birds. He clothes the wildflowers. Jesus said that if God takes care of these, how much more does He care for you :D our faith goes through tough moments. it's in these moments we need to be more in God's presence. He changes the situation or He changes our heart/perspective.

He is our daily portion.
 

blue_ladybug

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It's a good thing God never feels like He doesn't care about us. :)
 

wanderer6059

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Shouldn't the WoF person be giving encouragement instead of
mocking and contemptuously disparaging their brethren with sarcasm?
i did give it to her in another thread, but people who think they can give tough love to someone they don't personally know are acting ignorantly, there is actually biblical support for being sarcastic to stupid people.
 

RickyZ

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I think Elvis has left the building.

God bless her and hers.
 
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Miri

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i did give it to her in another thread, but people who think they can give tough love to someone they don't personally know are acting ignorantly, there is actually biblical support for being sarcastic to stupid people.

The following verses just say it better than I could.

1 Corinthians 1:26-28 NKJV
[26] For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise according to the flesh,
not many mighty, not many noble, are called. [27] But God has chosen the foolish
things of the world to put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things
of the world to put to shame the things which are mighty; [28] and the base things
of the world and the things which are despised God has chosen, and the things
which are not, to bring to nothing the things that are,



Ps I freely admit I don't know everything and get things wrong, maybe I even
get more things wrong than right. But I'm willing to learn from God and be open to
what he wants to show me. I would rather be labelled a stupid person, as the only way
is up.
 
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Ugly

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WOW just read this thread and all there encouragement is amazing!

(for those who lack understanding that's sarcasm)

i relized that word maybee to big for some of you too so i have the definition.

sar·casm
ˈsärˌkazəm
noun
[COLOR=#878787 !important][/COLOR]

  • the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.





you all need to learn to read you bibles more, especially on love. i doesn't matter if she is having a hard time, and yours is worse, or she is a little better off. right now she is a sister in need and if you are soo much worse off yet dealing with it sooo much better, why don't you post what God has done for you helping you carry on, the word of scripture you stand on! instead you belittle her... SMH just a bunch of babes in Christ!
So you use sarcasm to be condescending then judge the people you disagree with as being 'babes in Christ', while having the nerve to criticize others for not responding in what you think a loving manner is.
Funny, I dont see you being loving to this you disagree with. Talking down to people and judging them doesn't seem particularly loving.

Also people sharing their personal situations and experiences is a Normal way for people to communicate.
Not to mention being 'loving' doesn't mean back patting every person that has a complaint. Sometimes people need to be given perspective on their situation.

I can sympathize that this woman's situation isn't ideal, but mostly she's comparing her life to those around her and expressing her jealousy that others are getting things she feels she deserves. Even going as far as drudging up another's past as evidence of how unworthy that person is to be doing better than she is. Basically saying 'I'm a better person than they are and I deserve better than they get'.

While there are so valid points the OP makes, there are also quite a few wrong thoughts and attitudes that need to be addressed as Part of helping her. Love isn't ignoring the wrong choices a person makes that puts them in a bad spot, and instead saying 'Aww you poor thing'. Love is bringing people out of the wrong and giving them a newer and better perspective to use going forward to help them avoid repeating the same mistakes. Seems as if many people here understood that, while you talk down to them and called what you did love.
 
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kaylagrl

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Come on folks. We all get down,sometimes we feel like God isn't hearing us or acting fast enough on our behalf. We're judging the OP. Cut her some slack.
 

Dan58

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Why does everything pass us by? Why does prayer do nothing? Why does it feel like God doesn't care? I don't lnow how much longer I can live like this without having a breakdown!
God cares, but He see's the bigger spiritual picture, and your concerns are not always His. Jesus prayed, "Give us this day, our daily bread", perhaps that's enough? If you've got your health, food, and shelter, everything else in life is frosting on the cake.

My fondest memories of my parents were not the good times, but what I admire most is how they persevered in hard times. Times when my Dad was gone doing what he had to do to support us is something that gave me the strength to plunge ahead when times were tough for myself.

Paul said; "When I am weak, then am I strong". Tough times bring us to God, people tend to ignore Him when everything is going great. You seem to be looking at people who got good jobs and have more than you, so your discouraged. Try looking at those who have less and you might feel lucky. Your situation isn't uncommon, many don't have a house or their idea job. Keep your chin up and keep plunging ahead.