What can I do???!!! Advise needed!

[MultilingualMessenger]

And... Its even worse....
He says he has sex with the demons and he enjoys it. But now he wants it al to stop. Because the medium told him this is not good. I saw her website and she says shes a believer of Jesus. But shes in occult stuff, like fortune telling, new age, cleansing houses etc. So its really really bad.

Yeah, no believer of Jesus would be a medium; that's incompatible. The Bible denounces it flat out.

I hate to say it, but I don't think there is any more advice I can give you. This is a spiritual battle that needs prayer all around: for the relative, for you and your husband, and even for the "Christian" medium. You've already tried to talk to the people in question. I would pray on it and let God work.

 

[Angelique]

Yeah, no believer of Jesus would be a medium; that's incompatible. The Bible denounces it flat out.

I hate to say it, but I don't think there is any more advice I can give you. This is a spiritual battle that needs prayer all around: for the relative, for you and your husband, and even for the "Christian" medium. You've already tried to talk to the people in question. I would pray on it and let God work.

Thank for the prayers, God bless

 

[MultilingualMessenger]

Thank for the prayers, God bless

You're welcome. God bless you too.

 

[resurrection33]

Prayers needed!

A family member on my husband side has mental problems. He sees/feels demons (they harras him) hears voices and into occult stuff. Like fortune telling, card reading, mediums, contacting dead people, etc. He thinks he needs those mediums for him to loose the demons. The medium told him he can't be at home at Christmas or Newyear. Now he just called us in panic and he wants to stay with us or at his parents house. But his parents are elderly. And its not easy for them too.

I do want to help, but to be honest I dont want him in our house...because I cant handle these things and I also have a baby. The family member won't listen to my Biblical advise or take his medicine.

What can I do? And prayers are more than welcome.

There's no reason you should let him in your house, especially with a baby.

 

[Pilkington]

I am assuming that the law is different in the states, in the UK if a patient has a mental health condition there are situations where they can be treated and medicated against their will that is if they can be shown not to have mental capacity. Also they can be sectioned and detained if they are a risk to themselves or others

 

[Depleted]

I am assuming that the law is different in the states, in the UK if a patient has a mental health condition there are situations where they can be treated and medicated against their will that is if they can be shown not to have mental capacity. Also they can be sectioned and detained if they are a risk to themselves or others

​Yes, very different in the States.

 

[Desertsrose]

Prayers needed!

A family member on my husband side has mental problems. He sees/feels demons (they harras him) hears voices and into occult stuff. Like fortune telling, card reading, mediums, contacting dead people, etc. He thinks he needs those mediums for him to loose the demons. The medium told him he can't be at home at Christmas or Newyear. Now he just called us in panic and he wants to stay with us or at his parents house. But his parents are elderly. And its not easy for them too.

I do want to help, but to be honest I dont want him in our house...because I cant handle these things and I also have a baby. The family member won't listen to my Biblical advise or take his medicine.

What can I do? And prayers are more than welcome.

Hi Angelique,

Don't feel like, because a family member wants to come visit, you have to open your door to them. If this person doesn't want help, keep praying for him that he will want his life changed. I feel bad for him, I'm sure you do too, but you can't help a person until they ask for help. Have you been able to preach the gospel to him?

If I were in the same situation I'm not sure what I'd do. I'd definitely be praying and asking for God to guide me and give me wisdom. The bible says that if anyone lacks wisdom he should pray and God will give him wisdom liberally.

If he insists on coming for a visit, maybe family members could chip in and find an inexpensive motel or one of those long stays that can sometimes be cheaper. That's what I would do so that he wouldn't be in my home with a young baby or in the parents home who are older and would find it difficult.

I read where you're scared. I use to be scared of demonic stuff too when I was younger in the Lord. But it was simply the lack of knowledge or understanding the demonic world that caused the fear.

The Lord says that Greater is He that is in us, than he who's in the world. When I finally understood what that means, God gave me peace about the demonic world. I don't have to be scared of a demon.

You see, Jesus lives in you and you are In Christ. There's power In Him, there's protection In Him, there's wisdom In Him, there's understanding and knowledge In Him. Everything we need for life and Godliness is In Christ.

If we come across a demon, the Lord gives the church the ability to cast them out. But it needs to be that your family member is willing and wants to accept Jesus into their life, because if you cast the demon out and they don't accept the Lord as their savior, that demon could go and get 7 more demons and your family member would be worse off than before.

So pray for His peace in your heart, ask for wisdom from God for this situation and then as God leads you, come up with a plan that would benefit everyone concerned and protect the family.

 

[Dan58]

My husband does believe in God but not in demons. He thinks its a mental problem.

I concur with your husband... And if he's hearing voices and thinks he's having sex with demons, you certainly don't want him staying at your house, especially with your baby there. His mental issues could become dangerous if he decides to listen to those voices. Its nice that you want to help, but you can't risk turning an unstable nut loose in your home.. jmo

 

[notmyown]

All 12 apostles were protected by God. 11 of them were killed. Why do you think God saves people's lives all the time?

protected from the evil one? maybe that's what she means.

(i haven't read through the rest of the thread yet. lol)

 

[notmyown]

sooooo demons are real.

and there's a real mental disorder called schizophrenia. probably not always caused by demons.

i'm not sure we should be attempting to diagnose a person we've never met with either problem.

i said a prayer for you, Angelique. you and your husband need to sort this together.

i feel quite certain you both wish to protect your child.

 

[Demi777]

((sorry for my boldness on the subject))

he needs to get out of the occult and you gotta stand back and pray.. Unless he stops itll only get worse. Jesus alone is the only way. He cannot serve two masters. Playing with occult backfires. If he has anything occult in the house, burn it.
You cannot take his free will, he condemns himself by his own choice so he takes the consequences for it nor will God just simply take it away unless he wants to stop. Pray that God puts things in his ways. Dont go with him to these places and to be honest, leaving him a while may even be the best so you dont get involved.

 

[Ultimatum77]

Prayers needed!

A family member on my husband side has mental problems. He sees/feels demons (they harras him) hears voices and into occult stuff. Like fortune telling, card reading, mediums, contacting dead people, etc. He thinks he needs those mediums for him to loose the demons. The medium told him he can't be at home at Christmas or Newyear. Now he just called us in panic and he wants to stay with us or at his parents house. But his parents are elderly. And its not easy for them too.

I do want to help, but to be honest I dont want him in our house...because I cant handle these things and I also have a baby. The family member won't listen to my Biblical advise or take his medicine.

What can I do? And prayers are more than welcome.

Do not let him into your house with your child.....a person serving demons is willing to do anything including harm innocent people......if he won't listen to you let him fend for himself and let his demons "save" him which will never happen btw....you have done your part shake off the dust from your sandals and let the unrepentant soul/child of the devil perish.....it is not on your hands anymore....GB! U77

 

[Ariel82]

I read and see people responding out of fear....does your husband want to let him stay at your house?

If it's a yes, then God will protect you. If no, then follow his wisdom.

Don't be alone or allow him to be alone with your child. Of you feel unsafe, tell your husband. He will understand and protect you..or he should.

You can have him committed to a mental hospital if he is a danger to himself or others.

Is it demons or mental illness or both?

I don't know but he need prayers and stop playing with the occult.

Will keep you in prayer.

 

[Depleted]

I read and see people responding out of fear....does your husband want to let him stay at your house?

If it's a yes, then God will protect you. If no, then follow his wisdom.

Don't be alone or allow him to be alone with your child. Of you feel unsafe, tell your husband. He will understand and protect you..or he should.

You can have him committed to a mental hospital if he is a danger to himself or others.

Is it demons or mental illness or both?

I don't know but he need prayers and stop playing with the occult.

Will keep you in prayer.

I agree with you to the point of thinking this is the best answer to her questions.

BUT, you keep forgetting -- different lands, different laws. She's from the US. Truly, truly, no! You really cannot have someone committed, even for being a danger to others, until he/she proves it. That's why we have so many mass murderers. Until they take the gun into a crowded place and start shooting, there is nothing we can do.

My dad had a loaded gun sitting on his table and he's in late stage-two for dementia. He kept telling my sister he was going to use it if he was taken out of his house. (Still no idea if he meant he was going to kill himself or kill whoever got to take him out of the house.) My brother asked the cops to take his gun because he was dangerous. They could not. The best they could do was stay outside (and my brother is both amused and annoyed that the guys with the guns stayed outside and to the side way, way back, while he walked into the door), while my brother tried to convince Dad to give him the gun. Even he couldn't force Dad. (He didn't. He just went to the table picked it up and took it, before Dad knew why he was there. lol)

This is how crazy it is to live in the US, because insane people have rights too, so they should decide what they do.

 

[Angelique]

Hi Angelique,

Don't feel like, because a family member wants to come visit, you have to open your door to them. If this person doesn't want help, keep praying for him that he will want his life changed. I feel bad for him, I'm sure you do too, but you can't help a person until they ask for help. Have you been able to preach the gospel to him?

If I were in the same situation I'm not sure what I'd do. I'd definitely be praying and asking for God to guide me and give me wisdom. The bible says that if anyone lacks wisdom he should pray and God will give him wisdom liberally.

If he insists on coming for a visit, maybe family members could chip in and find an inexpensive motel or one of those long stays that can sometimes be cheaper. That's what I would do so that he wouldn't be in my home with a young baby or in the parents home who are older and would find it difficult.

I read where you're scared. I use to be scared of demonic stuff too when I was younger in the Lord. But it was simply the lack of knowledge or understanding the demonic world that caused the fear.

The Lord says that Greater is He that is in us, than he who's in the world. When I finally understood what that means, God gave me peace about the demonic world. I don't have to be scared of a demon.

You see, Jesus lives in you and you are In Christ. There's power In Him, there's protection In Him, there's wisdom In Him, there's understanding and knowledge In Him. Everything we need for life and Godliness is In Christ.

If we come across a demon, the Lord gives the church the ability to cast them out. But it needs to be that your family member is willing and wants to accept Jesus into their life, because if you cast the demon out and they don't accept the Lord as their savior, that demon could go and get 7 more demons and your family member would be worse off than before.

So pray for His peace in your heart, ask for wisdom from God for this situation and then as God leads you, come up with a plan that would benefit everyone concerned and protect the family.

Thank you this does me good.

 

[Angela53510]

This sounds like schizophrenia with religiosity overtones. This is a brain illness. It will not get better, without medical help. Even if he is not a Christian, there may not be demons involved. But you will never know unless he gets help for his mental illness first.

My suggestion is when he gets very incoherent in his phone calls, call the police. Get them to phone him and evaluate whether he needs to be committed. If they will not do it, you do need to protect your baby by not allowing him to have contact with you. He may hear demons telling him to kill you all in your beds! It may get to the point where the voices are so loud and insistent, he kills just to get relief from the voices!

I work with the mentally ill. I hate stigmas and stereotypes! BUT there is a danger factor when the voices are demanding and controlling. Call it demons, or call it schizophrenia, it is still something you need to protect yourselves from. I was just reading an article today, reminding people with bipolar disorder of the perils of psychosis.

Finally, thinking about the fact that he enjoys having sexual with demons, he may have schizoaffective disorder. This combines all the worst traits of schizophrenia and bipolar disorder, hyper sexuality being a symptom of bipolar disorder.

He sounds like he really needs help. Do not let him in your house, and get your husband to tell him he is not allowed in your home, until he gets a proper diagnosis and treatment. As for the MIL, I'm a bit concerned for her. She likely does not have the emotional strength to keep him out of her home. Time to pray, and do talk to the authorities

 

[DiscipleDave]

Prayers needed!

A family member on my husband side has mental problems. He sees/feels demons (they harras him) hears voices and into occult stuff. Like fortune telling, card reading, mediums, contacting dead people, etc. He thinks he needs those mediums for him to loose the demons. The medium told him he can't be at home at Christmas or Newyear. Now he just called us in panic and he wants to stay with us or at his parents house. But his parents are elderly. And its not easy for them too.

I do want to help, but to be honest I dont want him in our house...because I cant handle these things and I also have a baby. The family member won't listen to my Biblical advise or take his medicine.

What can I do? And prayers are more than welcome.

What does your husband want to do?
Is Your husband a Christian?
It is not advisable to bring demon possessed people around children. Ever.
This person needs help, and in all likeliness he is not going to be helped by staying at your house.
You already know you can't handle that kind of thing, as you testified you can't. So don't. demons can have a hay day with wavering faiths (doubts).

You have done a good thing by asking for advice and prayer on this matter. i will pray for him.

^i^

††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††

DiscipleDave

 

[SunsSunny]

In Visions beyond the Veil, an evangelist documents the incredible experiences of his little orphanage in which kids experienced the power of God mightily receiving Visions from heaven when Holy Spirit compelled them to seek The Lord tenaciously in prayer. It also documents experiences with demon possessed. The children who were saved casted out demons from a man who was tormented and the demon ran to and fro seeking a place of refuge but could not enter those covered by the Blood of The Lamb. Even the littlest of children discovered that no demon could touch them as long as they had faith in Jesus and were sanctified by Him.

To welcome this man into your home would be a step of faith, and if you have faith in Jesus, there is nothing to fear. He will certainly protect your children and they may have an opportunity to see the power of Jesus overcome the demonic in the spiritual realm. I have personally had experience with demonic possession and faith in Jesus overcoming the demonically possessed. It is not something you forget and the power of God is the pillar on which your faith should be built. It is this power that raised Jesus from the dead!!

Always have faith in Jesus, perfect love casts out all fear! No matter what you decide, I hope you will take this opportunity to develop a deeper relationship with God, understanding that our battle is not with flesh and blood but with principalities and powers and the forces of darkness that wage war against our souls.