How do I learn to love myself?

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Angelique

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Im dealing with this a long time. I dont like myself. Thats why I am dealing with depression. I did not have wonderfull childhood. My mom always said when I was a child: you take up all the energy of people. So I am always afraid things will go wrong with the people I love. I am always scared to be abanded. My father left us. My mother always said he did not wanted me and wanted an abortion, but she did want me. She told me this when I was a child. I did not have a nice childhood. I remember my mother was mad when I did nothing. I would always be carfeful with what I said because she could misunderstood and be mad. She would trow things at me etc. But I know she did the best she could, because she had her own problems.

But now I am a grownup and I still deal with these feelings. I used to be very suïcidal, thinking of suïcide a couple of times a day. But Im proud I never tried it. But the suicidal feeling is a feeling of comfort. If it gets to difficult I can step out.

So how do I learn to love myself?
I would appreciate prayers too.
 
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Angelique my lovely, if only you could visually see how much God loves you - you would melt, really you would. You are loved beyond measure by The King of kings. I know it is hard for us to love ourselves when we have been damaged by others at various stages of our lives and I think most of us have deep hurts we bury from our past. I guess rejection of parents has to be up there as the most damaging but you must learn to forgive them for that, although it's hard to accept they must have had their own reasons why they deprived you of the love you deserved. You must love yourself Angelique, wallow in the love of God which has no ending - is deeper than the ocean. Immerse yourself deeper into a relationship with Him....

Maybe a little counselling would be beneficial to you, have you considered this? Coming here to CC, you can learn more about God, study Him and discuss Him whilst making friends so come here often and talk with people. God bless you Angelique, you are in my prayers.
 

G00WZ

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The best way is by knowing that God loves you most of all, and also by knowing that those things your mom said about you in the past was a lie... my mom used to yell at me all the time when i was a kid because she didn't want me to turn out like my older brother, and she would call me names and hit me all the time, usually for petty things or just not being perfect like my sister... I remember she was always focused on material things and her job/ position more than my welfare, and i knew that she was just like that because of stress from her job and the stress of me being me so often times i would just willingly take my lumps, because i knew somewhere i would take them anyways... Its funny.. it wasn't until she retired until she was able to actually have a relationship with me and now at 31 she is finally seeing her true son for who he is, and not the problem kid/ burden she labeled me as a long time ago... and the roles have switched.. my perfect sister is now the one causing problems....long story short let that stuff die in the past and don't let it dictate who you are now.. Focus on God and who HE is and what HE says about you, because in the end that's all the matters.
 
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Im dealing with this a long time. I dont like myself. Thats why I am dealing with depression. I did not have wonderfull childhood. My mom always said when I was a child: you take up all the energy of people. So I am always afraid things will go wrong with the people I love. I am always scared to be abanded. My father left us. My mother always said he did not wanted me and wanted an abortion, but she did want me. She told me this when I was a child. I did not have a nice childhood. I remember my mother was mad when I did nothing. I would always be carfeful with what I said because she could misunderstood and be mad. She would trow things at me etc. But I know she did the best she could, because she had her own problems.

But now I am a grownup and I still deal with these feelings. I used to be very suïcidal, thinking of suïcide a couple of times a day. But Im proud I never tried it. But the suicidal feeling is a feeling of comfort. If it gets to difficult I can step out.

So how do I learn to love myself?
I would appreciate prayers too.
My experience with loving myself, is that after I repent of my sin, there is a brief period where I am waiting to see if my repentance is sincere. Once a short period of time passes, I am free to love myself. Maybe it would be more accurate to say that I am at that point able to trust myself, which I think is more important.
 
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Im dealing with this a long time. I dont like myself. Thats why I am dealing with depression. I did not have wonderfull childhood. My mom always said when I was a child: you take up all the energy of people. So I am always afraid things will go wrong with the people I love. I am always scared to be abanded. My father left us. My mother always said he did not wanted me and wanted an abortion, but she did want me. She told me this when I was a child. I did not have a nice childhood. I remember my mother was mad when I did nothing. I would always be carfeful with what I said because she could misunderstood and be mad. She would trow things at me etc. But I know she did the best she could, because she had her own problems.

But now I am a grownup and I still deal with these feelings. I used to be very suïcidal, thinking of suïcide a couple of times a day. But Im proud I never tried it. But the suicidal feeling is a feeling of comfort. If it gets to difficult I can step out.

So how do I learn to love myself?
I would appreciate prayers too.
We don't really need to learn to love ourselves. We've been focusing on self our whole lives because that's what we do best -- love ourselves. We're actually consumed with self to the point it is sin. Notice everything you wrote was about you and what you've gone through. That is self love. And likely the reason you are depressed. (Might be vitamin deficiency or something physically wrong too, and you can go to a doctor to find out to treat that part, if it's true.)

The world teaches us self love is the cure-all be-all of our existence. It isn't. It is the dysfunction of our existence. It depletes us. Jesus taught us something else as the be-all for our existence.

Mark 12:[FONT=&quot]30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”[/FONT]

Notice, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." It implies you know how to love yourself and you're very good at it. It means turn that love you already have for yourself into a love for God and a love for neighbors. Love others as you love yourself. A good benchmark, because look how much you love yourself. If you were loved right, your father would have loved you for you. Turn that around. If you love right, love others like your father should have loved you. If your mother didn't say you suck up all the energy, you would have been a different person. Then don't tell anyone they suck up all the energy, because you didn't like that. It wasn't loving. Love them for who they are.

You love self fine. The problem is you've forgotten to love others like you love you. THIS is the common strand in human nature. We all love ourselves just fine. We forget others need to be loved at least in the way we want to be loved. The more we love others, especially God, the more completion he gives us on our very purpose in life. That is the purpose, to love God fully and others fully. Self? Already covered! We've always loved self the most. That just was never our purpose in life.
 

Angelique

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Thank you for your comment. But I can tell you its not self love. I wish it was. It's more like self hate. You don't understand, but thanks anyway for taking the time to replay
 

Angelique

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We don't really need to learn to love ourselves. We've been focusing on self our whole lives because that's what we do best -- love ourselves. We're actually consumed with self to the point it is sin. Notice everything you wrote was about you and what you've gone through. That is self love. And likely the reason you are depressed. (Might be vitamin deficiency or something physically wrong too, and you can go to a doctor to find out to treat that part, if it's true.)

The world teaches us self love is the cure-all be-all of our existence. It isn't. It is the dysfunction of our existence. It depletes us. Jesus taught us something else as the be-all for our existence.

Mark 12:[FONT=&quot]30 And you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[/FONT][FONT=&quot] [/FONT][FONT=&quot]31 The second is this: ‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these.”[/FONT]

Notice, "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." It implies you know how to love yourself and you're very good at it. It means turn that love you already have for yourself into a love for God and a love for neighbors. Love others as you love yourself. A good benchmark, because look how much you love yourself. If you were loved right, your father would have loved you for you. Turn that around. If you love right, love others like your father should have loved you. If your mother didn't say you suck up all the energy, you would have been a different person. Then don't tell anyone they suck up all the energy, because you didn't like that. It wasn't loving. Love them for who they are.

You love self fine. The problem is you've forgotten to love others like you love you. THIS is the common strand in human nature. We all love ourselves just fine. We forget others need to be loved at least in the way we want to be loved. The more we love others, especially God, the more completion he gives us on our very purpose in life. That is the purpose, to love God fully and others fully. Self? Already covered! We've always loved self the most. That just was never our purpose in life.
Thank you for your comment. But I can tell you its not self love. I wish it was. It's more like self hate. You don't understand, but thanks anyway for taking the time to replay
 
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Amazing-Grace

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Angelique, some comments are not helpful. Please feel free to privately message me. Meanwhile I will put in a friendship request to you. God bless you.
 

BillG

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Im dealing with this a long time. I dont like myself. Thats why I am dealing with depression. I did not have wonderfull childhood. My mom always said when I was a child: you take up all the energy of people. So I am always afraid things will go wrong with the people I love. I am always scared to be abanded. My father left us. My mother always said he did not wanted me and wanted an abortion, but she did want me. She told me this when I was a child. I did not have a nice childhood. I remember my mother was mad when I did nothing. I would always be carfeful with what I said because she could misunderstood and be mad. She would trow things at me etc. But I know she did the best she could, because she had her own problems.

But now I am a grownup and I still deal with these feelings. I used to be very suïcidal, thinking of suïcide a couple of times a day. But Im proud I never tried it. But the suicidal feeling is a feeling of comfort. If it gets to difficult I can step out.

So how do I learn to love myself?
I would appreciate prayers too.
Angelique I fully understand what you are going through. Your life experience is same as I mine, I also suffered sexual abuse when I fostered into a Christian family, by foster dad.

As a male I do not feel it appropriate that I get fully involved here, in terms of private messaging.

Amazing-grace for me has hit the nail on the head


Angelique my lovely, if only you could visually see how much God loves you - you would melt, really you would. You are loved beyond measure by The King of kings. I know it is hard for us to love ourselves when we have been damaged by others at various stages of our lives and I think most of us have deep hurts we bury from our past. I guess rejection of parents has to be up there as the most damaging but you must learn to forgive them for that, although it's hard to accept they must have had their own reasons why they deprived you of the love you deserved. You must love yourself Angelique, wallow in the love of God which has no ending - is deeper than the ocean. Immerse yourself deeper into a relationship with Him....

Maybe a little counselling would be beneficial to you, have you considered this? Coming here to CC, you can learn more about God, study Him and discuss Him whilst making friends so come here often and talk with people. God bless you Angelique, you are in my prayers.
What really helped me was the Freedom in Christ course.

have a look at the following





You are the apple of his eye

Psalms 17:8
Keep me as the apple of Your eye;
Hide me under the shadow of Your wings,

He has loved you with an everlasting love

Jeremiah 31:3
“Yes, I have loved you with an everlasting love;
Therefore with lovingkindness I have drawn you.

And finally know this

John 17:23
I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me.

God loves you as much as he loves Jesus.





 
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Thank you for your comment. But I can tell you its not self love. I wish it was. It's more like self hate. You don't understand, but thanks anyway for taking the time to replay
Whatever we focus on the most is what we love the most.

What do you focus on the most? (Rhetorical question. Doesn't have to be answered to me. Completely honest with yourself is good though.)
 

Monnieloves

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My heart breaks for the pain you are going through. We never forget the negative comments spoken, not only what we say to ourselves but what other people say about us. There is one thing I found to be true about life 'Hurt People, Hurt People'. I fought back by meditating day and night on what GOD's word says about me (and you). Scriptures: "You are beautifully and wonderfully made". "He loves you with an everlasting love". "He knows the plans he has for you, plans for good not evil to give you a future and a hope". "He will keep those in perfect peace whose mind stays on him". Meditation on GOD's word eliminated depression, suicidal thoughts, and fears of doing or saying the wrong thing. I will pray for GOD to surround you with love, joy, and peace.
 

BillG

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Whatever we focus on the most is what we love the most.

What do you focus on the most? (Rhetorical question. Doesn't have to be answered to me. Completely honest with yourself is good though.)
Do you think so?

If we we don't love ourselves and hate ourselves yet focus on that are we focusing on what we love most?

Its the very thing we hate, which is ourselves

I don't think we focus on ourselves because love ourselves, we focus on the pain and hurt and negative emotions.

what that does is take the focus off who loves us the most which is God.
 
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Thank you for your comment. But I can tell you its not self love. I wish it was. It's more like self hate. You don't understand, but thanks anyway for taking the time to replay
Really? I don't understand? Since you never took the time to get past yourself to find out if I do or don't, who is the one who refuses to understand?

That is exactly what happens when it's all above loving self. It continues on with me-centered. That's quicksand for our lives.

Here is something I wrote after I stopped doing what you are still doing. Read it and then tell me I don't understand.


The Monster

I've known this monster all my life. I looked for it under my bed in the dark. It wasn't there. It hid in my closet at my birth, waiting for me.

Hiding in my big, cannonball bed with my dollies and stuffed animals to protect me, I knew how to fool it. If I stayed still and held my breath long enough, it would think I was dead and leave to terrify another child. It never left.

It grew as I grew. It grew faster, bigger, meaner, and scarier. Ready to take me at any moment. I ran from it. At times, it caught me. It caught me like tacklers caught Jerry Rice -- by the tail of my shirt or by my ankle.

I'm not Jerry Rice. It caught me, forced me to go where I did not want to go and do things against my will. Things that took parts of me away like a torn jersey on a wide receiver. Things never returned.

I kept running. It followed me from place to place - from South Jersey to Illinois, from Illinois to Virginia, from Virginia to Illinois, from Illinois to North Jersey, and then, followed me back to where I started -- South Jersey. Loved ones, places, and prized possessions were lost, but it remained.

It got bigger, meaner, scarier. Like The Blob, it sucked up everything in its path and absorbed it to grow. It drained the spirit that jumped off garage roofs. It dried the freedom within a mother's love. It shriveled the confidence to "be whatever you want to be." It depleted worth and my future. I saw its shadow as I ran.

Twenty-one years of running from that monster. It stole one last thing. Cold and numb, I took a long hot shower. Then I gave up. I curled up in my college bunk bed in the dark corner. Eyes closed. It could have me. It took me.

It was dark like the black in a cave. It was dank and warm, terrifying and comforting. It was fear. It was hate. It was doom. It was hopelessness. It was eternal death. It was defeat. It smothered me.

A distant memory? A world that was never meant to be? A friend visiting at the right moment? I don’t know what caused it, but a tiny flicker of faded light invaded the darkness, and I reached out. It wrenched my arm back down and squeezed me like a python. It was too late.

Strangers I did not know helped me. They helped me, when I didn’t want the help. They forced their help onto me, and they ripped at the monster. Moment by moment, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day, they fought it. I fought with them. I don’t remember when I decided to fight back. It was not too late.

Strangers became friends I will never forget. We fought it together, when I wanted the help. Day by day, week by week, month by month, we fought. Bit by bit, it lost its power until it released its grip on me. We ripped it to shreds. I opened my eyes and saw the monster for the first time.

It was little. It was weak. It was a small thing that cast a huge shadow. It was the little girl staring at the closet door in the dark. It was the child falling off her bike when Mommy let go. It was the young girl, who hurt her wrist, jumping off garages. It was the eighth grader stripped of the home with the monster-hiding closet. It was the teenager watching her parents' custody battle end with the death of her mother. It was the stripped hitchhiker restrained by five half-naked men in the dark house. It was the co-ed mingling tears with the scalding water in the shower before giving up.

I laughed. It was me.

The shadow of the monster named Fear was huge. Fear itself is too small to take me again.
 
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Do you think so?

If we we don't love ourselves and hate ourselves yet focus on that are we focusing on what we love most?

Its the very thing we hate, which is ourselves

I don't think we focus on ourselves because love ourselves, we focus on the pain and hurt and negative emotions.

what that does is take the focus off who loves us the most which is God.
Do you focus on the hurt, or those who hurt you? Was it a matter of "Well, they really couldn't help themselves?" or "How dare they do that to ME? It's all THEIR fault. I could be somebody if it weren't for them. Life would be better and people will accept ME."

Going inward it always ends up as ME on top. Going outward, ends up with God on top! And because God? Others.

"I'm not good enough" means "lower the standards for ME."

"I hurt" means "you fix ME."

"I'm depressed" means "I don't have to do anything. Serve ME."

Even if we feel like crap about ourselves, self is always the center of that. The thing we love the most.

AND the monster that sucks us deeper and deeper with no hope. We aren't our hope. God is. Once we see that, fear drops off like a squished bug on a windshield in a downpour. And then we see the real purpose for what we were designed to do. The human being was designed to love God fully and love others as we love ourselves. The Fall changed that into love self, before loving God or others, and let's not even get into if there is ever enough time to get around to loving God and others at all.

It looks like hate, but it's really abusive love. We weren't designed for inward. We were designed for outward. Wonderfully designed by God, who chose to love us, not for who we are/were, but for who he is!
 

BillG

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Really? I don't understand? Since you never took the time to get past yourself to find out if I do or don't, who is the one who refuses to understand?

That is exactly what happens when it's all above loving self. It continues on with me-centered. That's quicksand for our lives.

Here is something I wrote after I stopped doing what you are still doing. Read it and then tell me I don't understand.
I hear what you are saying but what was your focus?

Having read you testimony your focus wasn't on what you love the most, it was on what you fear the most.

Can you say that the monster that you focused on is the monster you loved the most?

I thank Jesus he has healed you?

I am just surmising here from my own experience and Angelique if I am wrong please let me know and if it adds to something over and above then please forgive me.

I think Angeliques fear is of self hatred (and let's be honest that is what it is) is a bit deeper.

Its I am not lovable, why would someone love me. Let alone God.

Thats her monster, it rides on her back, the little voice that says your useless, why not end it all. Kill yourself. No one loves you anyway. My guess is that she cries herself to sleep sometimes at night.

when she looks in the mirror, what does she see?

A big monster that follows her every step she takes.
 

preacher4truth

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Im dealing with this a long time. I dont like myself. Thats why I am dealing with depression. I did not have wonderfull childhood. My mom always said when I was a child: you take up all the energy of people. So I am always afraid things will go wrong with the people I love. I am always scared to be abanded. My father left us. My mother always said he did not wanted me and wanted an abortion, but she did want me. She told me this when I was a child. I did not have a nice childhood. I remember my mother was mad when I did nothing. I would always be carfeful with what I said because she could misunderstood and be mad. She would trow things at me etc. But I know she did the best she could, because she had her own problems.

But now I am a grownup and I still deal with these feelings. I used to be very suïcidal, thinking of suïcide a couple of times a day. But Im proud I never tried it. But the suicidal feeling is a feeling of comfort. If it gets to difficult I can step out.

So how do I learn to love myself?
I would appreciate prayers too.

Hi Angelique,

I read your post earlier today. I want to tell you that as teenagers my brother and I were abandoned first by our Mom, then by our Dad who was a drunkard. We were dropped off at a Volunteers of America with other drunkards. I fought to survive, lied about my age, got a job and moved forward.

Angelique, that is the best thing that happened to us. Trials make us better, stronger, even in you, but sometimes you cannot see it. Please remember Psalm 27:10. Remember Jesus said our enemies would be of our own household, Matthew 10:36. So Christ knew all of this and He said this to comfort you, He knew what you would go through. Be encouraged, He said that for you.

Of course some mean things were communicated to my brother and I, especially toward me as I was hated because I am ordained. My brother was schizophrenic after all of this and Mom supported him and since he was dependent on her they were close. Although this has happened, I will not allow it to define me or rule my life. The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy, but Jesus came to give abundant life, John 10:10. I know this is very hard, depression stinks, but you are a child of God. Did you know that many ministers struggle/struggled with depression?

God came to conform you to the image of His Son. Part of that conforming are the struggles to which you and all of His are appointed, Philippians 1:29 and He is using them to bring you closer to Him. Angelique, I am sure you are a very beautiful woman, look at how you came here to tell us your testimony, and guess what? You are still here, fighting, enduring, and trusting God even when you're afraid, Psalm 56:3. Thanks for showing us the real part of life here on this earth, and thanks for enduring. God bless.
 

Angelique

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I hear what you are saying but what was your focus?

Having read you testimony your focus wasn't on what you love the most, it was on what you fear the most.

Can you say that the monster that you focused on is the monster you loved the most?

I thank Jesus he has healed you?

I am just surmising here from my own experience and Angelique if I am wrong please let me know and if it adds to something over and above then please forgive me.

I think Angeliques fear is of self hatred (and let's be honest that is what it is) is a bit deeper.

Its I am not lovable, why would someone love me. Let alone God.

Thats her monster, it rides on her back, the little voice that says your useless, why not end it all. Kill yourself. No one loves you anyway. My guess is that she cries herself to sleep sometimes at night.

when she looks in the mirror, what does she see?

A big monster that follows her every step she takes.
Yes that is the feeling. I am not mad at nobody. I have forgiven those who hurt me a long long time ago. I was never mad, just sad. Now I am grown I see that everybody has their own struggles. Nobody is perfect and I know my mom did the best she could at that time while dealing with her own problems.
Hurting people often hurt other people. I also forgave my dad.

This bible verse means a lot to me: For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Ephesians 6:12

But that does not take away the feeling of self hate. It's gotten a bit less, but it's still there. It also comes with heavyness. When it was worse I would really get comfort in suicidal thoughts. Knowing if the pain would get too much I could step out. I would think about it al day long and cry all day long. These feelings go deep.

It's like something is broken in me, and I dont know how to heal it completely, nobody can do this for me, but myself. I should be able to, but I can't. I am alive, but I don't feel like it.
I know have to start accepting myself to heal and loving myself but its difficult when you hate yourself.
 

Angelique

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Hi Angelique,

I read your post earlier today. I want to tell you that as teenagers my brother and I were abandoned first by our Mom, then by our Dad who was a drunkard. We were dropped off at a Volunteers of America with other drunkards. I fought to survive, lied about my age, got a job and moved forward.

Angelique, that is the best thing that happened to us. Trials make us better, stronger, even in you, but sometimes you cannot see it. Please remember Psalm 27:10. Remember Jesus said our enemies would be of our own household, Matthew 10:36. So Christ knew all of this and He said this to comfort you, He knew what you would go through. Be encouraged, He said that for you.

Of course some mean things were communicated to my brother and I, especially toward me as I was hated because I am ordained. My brother was schizophrenic after all of this and Mom supported him and since he was dependent on her they were close. Although this has happened, I will not allow it to define me or rule my life. The thief comes to steal, kill and destroy, but Jesus came to give abundant life, John 10:10. I know this is very hard, depression stinks, but you are a child of God. Did you know that many ministers struggle/struggled with depression?

God came to conform you to the image of His Son. Part of that conforming are the struggles to which you and all of His are appointed, Philippians 1:29 and He is using them to bring you closer to Him. Angelique, I am sure you are a very beautiful woman, look at how you came here to tell us your testimony, and guess what? You are still here, fighting, enduring, and trusting God even when you're afraid, Psalm 56:3. Thanks for showing us the real part of life here on this earth, and thanks for enduring. God bless.
Thanks you for your kind words. They are uplifting.
 

EarnestQ

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Simple practicum: find things to laugh about. Laughing gets us out of ourselves. It won't solve the problem but it will help.

I understand what you mean by self hate. I may deal with it as much as you do. Seek professional help. Maybe a bit of medication will help you live in a different perspective in life.

But first start getting your mind off of yourself by laughing. IT CERTAINLY CAN'T HURT.

Exercise and a healthy diet will also go a long way to helping you get out of this black rut.

And pray too.