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TemporaryCircumstances

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So some of you here know my situation at home.
I have decided to go and graduate high school early so I can move out and get myself on my feet earlier.

I am making this thread to ask advice from those who may have went down this path? I have talked this through with my guidance counselor and she supports my decision and thinks I can do it and will end up fine.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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i suggest saving money
and getting prepared while youre finishing high school

every dollar you can


i never went to high school
but i saved money working at a dollar general

had a roommate i trusted

gradually got better jobs every 9 to 14 months and moved up every time i could....

took about 3 years for me to be able to support myself functionally.. spent some of that homeless

im sure you can do it faster than me
especially since you know of God


annnd will actually attend high school
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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i suggest saving money
and getting prepared while youre finishing high school

every dollar you can


i never went to high school
but i saved money working at a dollar general

had a roommate i trusted

gradually got better jobs ever 9 to 14 months and moved up every time i could....

took about 3 years for me to be able to support myself functionally.. spent some of that homeless

im sure you can do it faster than me
especially since you know of God


annnd will actually attend high school
Yeah, money is my biggest worry
I'm sure if I have too many problems I can go to my church for help if it comes to worst outcomes
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Yeah, money is my biggest worry
I'm sure if I have too many problems I can go to my church for help if it comes to worst outcomes
if you know anyone well enough that you trust them who also needs a place

you can cutt that worry in half...
also
i got aid for a few months while my income was very low

they gave me like 400$ a month for food

then i stopped renewing it because i knew i could do it on my own


but it helped me get on my feet
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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if you know anyone well enough that you trust them who also needs a place

you can cutt that worry in half...
also
i got aid for a few months while my income was very low

they gave me like 400$ a month for food

then i stopped renewing it because i knew i could do it on my own


but it helped me get on my feet

Yeah,
I don't know many people.
I have Momiji but she's already getting on her feet and I'm sure she'll be just fine by then...

Awesome, well that'll probably help.
 
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Miri

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At what age do you normally graduate from high school in the US?

Just wondered as compulsory education ends at 16 in the UK, but you can then
stay on at college for example until 18. Then if you want, go to university until
21.

Many 17-18 years olds get flats find jobs. But most have the support of family and
friends. In fact many go away from home to university at 18.

Some but probably not a lot, leave home and get jobs at 16.

I would have thought it would be very difficult though without the right kind
of support. It's a big thing to suddenly have to do everything for yourself and
handle all of your own financial responsibility.

Are there any young peoples charities in the US who can help for offer advice.

You definately need to finish your education, thats the spring board to finding a
reasonable job.

You could do with looking at how much it would cost you to live,
ie pay your bills, food, rent, travel costs, etc and work how much it would
cost to live on your own. Plus you need money to buy the basics of furnishing
a flat or house, pots, pans, cooker, fridge etc.

Do all of this first. Then it will give you some idea of the expense involved.
Dont rush into this lightly, it's a big thing to do.

possibly when you are a bit older you can look at a flat share with a friend.
But be very careful, make sure you both understand your responsibilities.

If there is any way to reach a compromise at home, it would be better.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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At what age do you normally graduate from high school in the US?

Just wondered as compulsory education ends at 16 in the UK, but you can then
stay on at college for example until 18. Then if you want, go to university until
21.

Many 17-18 years olds get flats find jobs. But most have the support of family and
friends. In fact many go away from home to university at 18.

Some but probably not a lot, leave home and get jobs at 16.

I would have thought it would be very difficult though without the right kind
of support. It's a big thing to suddenly have to do everything for yourself and
handle all of your own financial responsibility.

Are there any young peoples charities in the US who can help for offer advice.

You definately need to finish your education, thats the spring board to finding a
reasonable job.

You could do with looking at how much it would cost you to live,
ie pay your bills, food, rent, travel costs, etc and work how much it would
cost to live on your own. Plus you need money to buy the basics of furnishing
a flat or house, pots, pans, cooker, fridge etc.

Do all of this first. Then it will give you some idea of the expense involved.
Dont rush into this lightly, it's a big thing to do.
This has been something I have been trying to decide on for a while.
I've been talking with a lot of people to decide if this is the right thing to do or not.

You usually go to school until 18 (High school)
You're required to go school until you're 16
I will graduate at 17 as a Junior instead of at 18 as a Senior


Yes,
I have been looking at all you mentioned with people.
I know money will be tight. That's basically a guarantee.
The choice I've made is that it will be better for me to take the chance of struggling financially for a while than to continue to living in conditions I am now.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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I will have the same credentials and everything as if I graduated high school regularly, the only difference is it won't show the extra two semesters.
 
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JoDel

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I will have the same credentials and everything as if I graduated high school regularly, the only difference is it won't show the extra two semesters.
I don't know your circumstances at home, but this is similar to advice my grand daughter asked of my husband and myself. ~ Her situation was/is not good at home, but until she is 18, her parents are holding a tight rein and one of those is to keep her from us, because we could help her substantially. ~ She is an "over achiever " and will graduate with honors early also. But she has chosen to "weather out the storm" at home and while doing so, is remaining in school (though graduated with high SATs also) and is taking the college courses program her school offers, which allows acquiring college credits. This type of thing LOOKS and IS GREAT for the colleges seeking her out for scholarships. She has had, up to date, 4, one being Stanford. ~ It takes tremendous strength to hold on to a thread with nothing beneath your feet... but if you can do it for a bit longer to SECURE "YOU"... please do. You have the rest of your life to be an adult and on your own ...(highly over-rated). ~ Just a thought from one who left home at 15 also. The reality is NOTHING like the imagined.
 
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I don't know your circumstances at home, but this is similar to advice my grand daughter asked of my husband and myself. ~ Her situation was/is not good at home, but until she is 18, her parents are holding a tight rein and one of those is to keep her from us, because we could help her substantially. ~ She is an "over achiever " and will graduate with honors early also. But she has chosen to "weather out the storm" at home and while doing so, is remaining in school (though graduated with high SATs also) and is taking the college courses program her school offers, which allows acquiring college credits. This type of thing LOOKS and IS GREAT for the colleges seeking her out for scholarships. She has had, up to date, 4, one being Stanford. ~ It takes tremendous strength to hold on to a thread with nothing beneath your feet... but if you can do it for a bit longer to SECURE "YOU"... please do. You have the rest of your life to be an adult and on your own ...(highly over-rated). ~ Just a thought from one who left home at 15 also. The reality is NOTHING like the imagined.

I don't think I can.
It's not good for my health to live like I am.
Trust me, I would if I could. I spent years asking myself "Can I just push through this?"
High School is such a small portion of your entire life if you have to miss a handful of minor events to better the overall quality of life then it is somthing that just needs to be done
 
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JoDel

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I don't think I can.
It's not good for my health to live like I am.
Trust me, I would if I could. I spent years asking myself "Can I just push through this?"
High School is such a small portion of your entire life if you have to miss a handful of minor events to better the overall quality of life then it is somthing that just needs to be done
I get it... and I admire your courage, tenacity and strength to do what's best for you. You seem wise beyond your years (just like my granddaughter) and I BELIEVE IN HER, so also, I BELIEVE IN YOU. Good luck and always keep God first. (Keep us in the loop)? I wish I could give you hugs.... (((((:eek:))))))
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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I get it... and I admire your courage, tenacity and strength to do what's best for you. You seem wise beyond your years (just like my granddaughter) and I BELIEVE IN HER, so also, I BELIEVE IN YOU. Good luck and always keep God first. (Keep us in the loop)? I wish I could give you hugs.... (((((:eek:))))))
Thank you :)
Things will work out by the will of God :)
I'll try to keep yall in the loop
(((Hugsss)))
 
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So some of you here know my situation at home.
I have decided to go and graduate high school early so I can move out and get myself on my feet earlier.

I am making this thread to ask advice from those who may have went down this path? I have talked this through with my guidance counselor and she supports my decision and thinks I can do it and will end up fine.
I haven't been watching your situation closely, but apparently you aren't happy at home and want to move on. You'll need to earn money to pay your bills. It might help if you could get some additional schooling after you graduate, but that takes money. Perhaps all you can do is get a job, work hard enough so you'll impress your superiors and get promoted. Maybe better jobs will come along as time goes on. You'll always want to have a good work record, because that will help you get better jobs as you get older.
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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I haven't been watching your situation closely, but apparently you aren't happy at home and want to move on. You'll need to earn money to pay your bills. It might help if you could get some additional schooling after you graduate, but that takes money. Perhaps all you can do is get a job, work hard enough so you'll impress your superiors and get promoted. Maybe better jobs will come along as time goes on. You'll always want to have a good work record, because that will help you get better jobs as you get older.
Yes,
I may join the military. That'll get me along for some time.
 
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Yes,
I may join the military. That'll get me along for some time.
That might solve everything, though it's a dangerous line of work. A quick google check tells me “You must be at least 17 years old (17-year old applicants require parental consent). You must (with very few exceptions) have a high school diploma. You must pass a physical medical exam.”
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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That might solve everything, though it's a dangerous line of work. A quick google check tells me “You must be at least 17 years old (17-year old applicants require parental consent). You must (with very few exceptions) have a high school diploma. You must pass a physical medical exam.”
Yup,
It is, but I was planning on joining before anyway.
I've been making sure that's an option for the past two or so years
 
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So some of you here know my situation at home.
I have decided to go and graduate high school early so I can move out and get myself on my feet earlier.

I am making this thread to ask advice from those who may have went down this path? I have talked this through with my guidance counselor and she supports my decision and thinks I can do it and will end up fine.
I will support you (emotionally and spiritually. Sorry, can't do physically or financially), no matter your decision, but two words expresses my fear for you with this plan -- "preexisting condition." Health insurance! You really need it, it's expensive, and if anything (please, Lord, never) happens, you'll need a support system and insurance big time!

Have you thought that far into this? And, if not, why do you think I've been glad you've been stuck where you're stuck? I worry about the just-in-cases of life, because John and I have hit 80% of the list for "things that can go wrong."

Most young people just starting out in life probably never need health insurance. You may be one of that number, but past events say you have to have some kind of plan for that one. If you tell me you do, that will go to the back burner for stuff I worry about for you.

Sooo, besides "diploma" what's the plan? Much of this planning stuff has to do with after the diploma. If you're the kind of student I think you are, (good grades), you can do what my Dad did -- go on to college early. (Okay, so he started college at 16, but he is a genius, and didn't pass that on to any of his kids. lol) Bu there really are full-rides for colleges if you have perfect grades, and "perfect grades" usually mean in your junior and senior years. (With good grades before that.)

Full-ride means tuition, room and board -- aka "A place to eat, sleep and have something to do for the next 3-5 years." Then "all you have to do" is keep getting great grades, and pick up a part-time job for everything else. (You'll still need clothes, toiletries, a chocolate bar here and there, and spending money.)

And if college isn't your plan after graduating, then what? A diploma for a girl doesn't even mean quite as much as the same thing for a boy. Businesses are more likely to take on a 17 year old guy because they can do more physical labor. They see a 17 year old girl, and the words "minimum wages" stick in their minds. You survive on minimum wages. You don't live. So you need a plan on what you want to do after that diploma.

I've worked with emancipated minors. There's a reason I always pushed the kids into eking it out at home as long as they can stand it... because I've worked with emancipated minors. Have you ever seen those cheapo, lousy looking apartments on TV shows where you know the person is poor and will be living like that for quite some time? (Usually also a convict.) Yeah. The apartments on TV are better than where I've seen those emancipated minors.

I know your plan isn't to be emancipated. (At 17, I don't think you need to be.) but 17 + girl + no skill sets = BAD!

You have two years. That's enough time to pull this off. Don't think I'm trying to talk you out of it. BUT you really need to know what you're setting your sights for. I don't want you to live in a rat-infested, (okay, it was loads of mice, mouse turds, and fleas, because those mice had fleas), partitioned-off-garage/shed that makes Detroit look like heaven.

So, Step One: Have a bigger plan than "get my diploma."
 
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i suggest saving money
and getting prepared while youre finishing high school

every dollar you can


i never went to high school
but i saved money working at a dollar general

had a roommate i trusted

gradually got better jobs every 9 to 14 months and moved up every time i could....

took about 3 years for me to be able to support myself functionally.. spent some of that homeless

im sure you can do it faster than me
especially since you know of God


annnd will actually attend high school
Speaking of, Young Man! (That's my mother accent. lol) It is time for you to get your GED. Two reasons:
1. You'll feel better about yourself after you find out you can do it.
2. Better pay.
 
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NoNameMcgee

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Speaking of, Young Man! (That's my mother accent. lol) It is time for you to get your GED. Two reasons:
1. You'll feel better about yourself after you find out you can do it.
2. Better pay.
i was an emancipated minor by the way lol

and thanks
i may do that one day
haha

you already talked me into gettin my wisdom tooth pulled
:p
 
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TemporaryCircumstances

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I will support you (emotionally and spiritually. Sorry, can't do physically or financially), no matter your decision, but two words expresses my fear for you with this plan -- "preexisting condition." Health insurance! You really need it, it's expensive, and if anything (please, Lord, never) happens, you'll need a support system and insurance big time!

Have you thought that far into this? And, if not, why do you think I've been glad you've been stuck where you're stuck? I worry about the just-in-cases of life, because John and I have hit 80% of the list for "things that can go wrong."

Most young people just starting out in life probably never need health insurance. You may be one of that number, but past events say you have to have some kind of plan for that one. If you tell me you do, that will go to the back burner for stuff I worry about for you.

Sooo, besides "diploma" what's the plan? Much of this planning stuff has to do with after the diploma. If you're the kind of student I think you are, (good grades), you can do what my Dad did -- go on to college early. (Okay, so he started college at 16, but he is a genius, and didn't pass that on to any of his kids. lol) Bu there really are full-rides for colleges if you have perfect grades, and "perfect grades" usually mean in your junior and senior years. (With good grades before that.)

Full-ride means tuition, room and board -- aka "A place to eat, sleep and have something to do for the next 3-5 years." Then "all you have to do" is keep getting great grades, and pick up a part-time job for everything else. (You'll still need clothes, toiletries, a chocolate bar here and there, and spending money.)

And if college isn't your plan after graduating, then what? A diploma for a girl doesn't even mean quite as much as the same thing for a boy. Businesses are more likely to take on a 17 year old guy because they can do more physical labor. They see a 17 year old girl, and the words "minimum wages" stick in their minds. You survive on minimum wages. You don't live. So you need a plan on what you want to do after that diploma.

I've worked with emancipated minors. There's a reason I always pushed the kids into eking it out at home as long as they can stand it... because I've worked with emancipated minors. Have you ever seen those cheapo, lousy looking apartments on TV shows where you know the person is poor and will be living like that for quite some time? (Usually also a convict.) Yeah. The apartments on TV are better than where I've seen those emancipated minors.

I know your plan isn't to be emancipated. (At 17, I don't think you need to be.) but 17 + girl + no skill sets = BAD!

You have two years. That's enough time to pull this off. Don't think I'm trying to talk you out of it. BUT you really need to know what you're setting your sights for. I don't want you to live in a rat-infested, (okay, it was loads of mice, mouse turds, and fleas, because those mice had fleas), partitioned-off-garage/shed that makes Detroit look like heaven.

So, Step One: Have a bigger plan than "get my diploma."
((Hugs))

1st) love you Lynn lol
2nd) No. I have not thought about health care but I have the next two years to figure it out
I know what I'm heading into. I'll be lucky to even have that apartment (which is what I've lived in my whole life anyway lol!)
I see them every day in my life not on TV XD

Plans I am thinking,
Join the military
Still apply for college and see what I can do
If I can't afford college and I don't get enough scholarships and stuff I will probably join the military and see if they can help to pay for my schooling. (That was advised by my guidance counselor)
Or I tough it out for a while and try to get myself on my feet till I have enough money for all of that (that is what my father ended up doing. He is pretty successful despite the whole abusing thing lol) but I know that is rare and it'll be tough if I go that way